Alternate History.

[Oberon]

It's alternate history, not alternate language.

Anyway, The War That Came Early, as some say.

The Wehrmacht was not really ready to take on France and Britain in '38, the Condor Legion are still bombing away in Spain, units would be out of position and understrength. However, whether or not the French and British could actually advance that far into Germany across the Maginot line is anyones best guess to be honest. They couldn't go through Holland, Belgium or Luxembourg, so that just leaves France.
I could see it bogging down into a war of attrition rather than a blitzkrieg, lots of skirmishing around the Black Forest, and some tank battles up in the Saarland. Once Czechoslovakia was dealt with, the German forces would transfer west and any gains the British and French had made would stop and in some places be reversed.
The Soviet Union would be intrigued and watch intently, putting pressure on the Baltic States and Poland to be assimilated into the Union whilst the British and French are preoccupied with attacking Hitler.
In the Pacific, well, depending on whether the Italians support the Germans in attacking France (doubtful) the Japanese would lose their inspiration for Pearl Harbor because the Royal Navy would have little need to attack Taranto, although a similar raid might occur in one of the North Sea ports.
Otherwise, I can't really see the Pacific war changing too much, I guess depending on how much of a meat-grinder the Black Forest skirmishes become we might bring in more ANZAC forces which would leave less for the Pacific, so maybe Port Moresby wouldn't hold out quite as well.
Otherwise the Pacific war was quite disconnected from the European one until the American entry, so I can't see there being that much influence.

[TarJak]

The1950 invasion by North Korea succeeds With the USSR not boycotting the UN Security council and using their veto to prevent a resolution to intervene.

The US goes it alone and a protracted war ensues lasting until 1962 when Vietnamese communist insurgents start to take the US supported South apart.

With Korea still burning and Vietnam erupting what's Kennedy's decision? Flight two wars on the Asian continent or leave Vietnam to its fate?

[Admiral Halsey]

Originally Posted by TarJak

The1950 invasion by North Korea succeeds With the USSR not boycotting the UN Security council and using their veto to prevent a resolution to intervene.

The US goes it alone and a protracted war ensues lasting until 1962 when Vietnamese communist insurgents start to take the US supported South apart.

With Korea still burning and Vietnam erupting what's Kennedy's decision? Flight two wars on the Asian continent or leave Vietnam to its fate?

That's a tough one. Kennedy was wanting to get us out of Vietnam before he got killed so i'm leaning towards the latter option. However it depends on what the public opinion on the war is. If it's like it was at the end of Nam then it's a no-brainer that he pulls out. If it's still favorable to the war though that's when things get tricky.

[Dread Knot]

Originally Posted by TarJak

With Korea still burning and Vietnam erupting what's Kennedy's decision? Flight two wars on the Asian continent or leave Vietnam to its fate?

I really can't see the political will in the US to keep fighting a stalemate for twelve years in Korea. Even in the Red-Scare environment of the 1950s domestic discontent would build. Sooner of later, like Vietnam the pressure builds to get it over with.

On the other side it's my understanding that even the Russians and Chinese were getting sick and tired of Kim Il-Sung by late 1952 and wanted the war over. Stalin's death also played a role since Malenkov (the next Soviet premier) was not too fond of Kim.

[Admiral Halsey]

Letting other people come up with the scenario is quite fun.

[Oberon]

Does it have to be military based? I did, in all seriousness, try one earlier but it didn't seem to work out. (The Gay President question).

[Admiral Halsey]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Does it have to be military based? I did, in all seriousness, try one earlier but it didn't seem to work out. (The Gay President question).

I kinda want this to be not that political if possible so if you don't have it be a military one just make sure it's not a political one or a politically charged one. That being said the occasional controversial question isn't a bad thing.

[TarJak]

The 12 year Korean meat grinder probably sees all but the most hawkish on the side of staying out, but with the domino theory still prevalent, if he's able to end it quickly he may survive politically.

[Admiral Halsey]

Originally Posted by TarJak

The 12 year Korean meat grinder probably sees all but the most hawkish on the side of staying out, but with the domino theory still prevalent, if he's able to end it quickly he may survive politically.

In that case he leaves Vietnam to it's fate.

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

In that case he leaves Vietnam to it's fate.

So another domino falls and the US situation in the Pacific becomes even more perilous as Thailand Malaysia and Indonesia communists become emboldened by the lack of response in Vietnam. What next?

[mapuc]

On a documentary on Discovery I was told that some theorist claim that there are several other worlds like ours

so maybe in some of these worlds or alternative worlds some of those "what if" have or could have happened

Bad that we can't travel to those worlds. If they do exist


Markus

[Admiral Halsey]

Alright who's next to make an AH scenario?

[mapuc]

What if Stanislav Petrov Yevgrafovich was'n so calm this September day in 1983 ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

You probably wouldn't be posting on SubSim today.

[MH]

Originally Posted by mapuc

What if Stanislav Petrov Yevgrafovich was'n so calm this September day in 1983 ?

Markus

Blah..?????
Kaboom
The End.