Stand your ground laws...

[VipertheSniper]

Originally Posted by les green01

maybe I should stop posting since my English skills just isn't good enough so long

I guess you should work a bit on formatting your posts.

If you write like this: "Sentence.Sentence.Sentence" it's easy to overlook where one sentence ends and another starts, thus making it hard to read.
A space after the period, and in longer posts, some paragraphs might help.

[Armistead]

Sadly, we had a man that worked a small conv. store in small town near us get shot by a black man in a hoodie, killed and robbed.

Yea, wear those hoodies

http://www.digtriad.com/news/local/a...micide-Robbery

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by Armistead

Sadly, we had a man that worked a small conv. store in small town near us get shot by a black man in a hoodie, killed and robbed.

Yea, wear those hoodies

The reality is that the majority of the "black community" promotes a lack of disrespect for others and life. From music to media, the hoodie wearing thug is held up as something to aspire to - dealing drugs, disrespecting women, etc. It is why 94% of all black murder victims are killed by other blacks.

[Onkel Neal]

Standing your ground in Houston
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=9180568

What's the natural reaction when a beefy black woman pulls a rifle out of the trunk of her car? Why, take a swing at her, of course. But I don't either one of these clowns was a neighborhood watch or white, so this will go unprotested.

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Standing your ground in Houston
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=9180568

What's the natural reaction when a beefy black woman pulls a rifle out of the trunk of her car? Why, take a swing at her, of course. But I don't either one of these clowns was a neighborhood watch or white, so this will go unprotested.

From the article:

"Daniel, 58, apparently got into an argument with a woman who was filling her car with gas. Eyewitness Raymond Martin, Jr., saw it in front of his eyes.
He said, "He came at her with a knife. So she came out of her trunk with a gun and started shooting him."

An eyewitness puts him attacking her - she should not be charged when it goes to the grand jury. She had every right to self defense. Apparently he made some unwanted sexual advances, she declined, he didn't like that answer. From the eyewitness account - she saved herself from a rape at the least.

[garren]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

From the article:



An eyewitness puts him attacking her - she should not be charged when it goes to the grand jury. She had every right to self defense. Apparently he made some unwanted sexual advances, she declined, he didn't like that answer. From the eyewitness account - she saved herself from a rape at the least.

I disagree. Unlike Zimmerman, the guy was not on top of her bashing her skull against the ground to the place she didn't have other options available to her. She shot him because she was angry he swung at her - not because she felt her life was in imminent danger. I think she'll get a manslaughter charge.

Also look at the video closely. He was just standing there when she came out of the trunk with a gun and she walks up to him. Then it looks like she points it at his leg or foot. Then he lifts his left leg and stomps it down real quick just before he swings at her. He might have felt she violated his ground by getting close to him with a loaded gun -provoking him to stand his ground by swinging at her. But she runs off and then takes aim at him while he's still in the same spot and shoots him.

[AVGWarhawk]

I agree with garren. She will get manslaughter. Not really sure what the altercation was beforehand but it did not warrant pulling a shotgun out of the trunk. Even so, the gentleman should have considered making a fast exit when the shotgun was taken from the trunk. I do believe the gentleman was going after her verbally for quite sometime. This elicited her response with the shotgun.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

The reality is that the majority of the "black community" promotes a lack of disrespect for others and life. From music to media, the hoodie wearing thug is held up as something to aspire to - dealing drugs, disrespecting women, etc. It is why 94% of all black murder victims are killed by other blacks.

The majority, eh?

[August]

He wasn't just standing there, his mouth was moving the entire time. No audio with the film clip but if he was making threats she could have had justification to shoot.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by August

He wasn't just standing there, his mouth was moving the entire time. No audio with the film clip but if he was making threats she could have had justification to shoot.

I doubt what he was saying was enough to warrant pulling out the artillery. But I agree, was berating or lecturing the woman. He looks to be relentless in his verbal assault.

[August]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I doubt what he was saying was enough to warrant pulling out the artillery. But I agree, was berating or lecturing the woman. He looks to be relentless in his verbal assault.

Hmm, good point. Some form of "I will take that gun away from you and rape you" would about cover it I think.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by August

Hmm, good point. Some form of "I will take that gun away from you and rape you" would about cover it I think.

Probably but I don't think that is what he was saying. Looked to be some type of verbal reprimand. He looks to not be finished and exits the gas station store after paying or whatever to continue the reprimand. She then pulls the artillery. I would think the gentleman was planning on showing the woman a thing or two as a result of her pulling the artillery. His failed attempt at disarming the woman resulted in his death.

[CaptainHaplo]

Ok - I watched the video.

It looks like she was trying to scare him off and the gun went off accidentally that first time. He definitely was the aggressor and she didn't have any real place to run to - though I agree the firearm should never have come out.

Ok - stupid question - who goes around with a loaded rifle or shotgun in their trunk?

Regarding charges - yes she was an idiot for pulling the firearm at the time she did. However - idiot does not equate to criminal. The moron that died did so because he acted stupidly and the outcome of his aggressive actions resulted in his death. I don't know if she suddenly saw the knife, or what - but he died for his stupidity - isn't one life ruined enough? Or do we as a society see ruining someone else's as "justice" when they would not have acted if not for the stupidity and aggressiveness of the deceased?

He put her into the situation - she acted badly - but is that her fault - or his? Like the TM case - who holds the GREATER responsibility for the outcome?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Ok - stupid question - who goes around with a loaded rifle or shotgun in their trunk?

Oh my, you would be surprised what people carry around in their vehicles.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Oh my, you would be surprised what people carry around in their vehicles.

My uncle in Alabama, fits the bill for the "stereotypical" redneck.

He is straight out of a Jeff Foxworthy bit.

Down to the shotgun in a rack on the back window of his pickup, with a dog riding in the tailgate.

No finer man to hang around with, and an even finer man in a bar full of people making fun of my Yankee accent.

2 on 2, no one won.

We always were brawlers. Though the big guy with no teeth did break my nose.

Alabama cops are so differient than Jersey ones, in jersey both parties would be in a cell.

The sheriff asked both of us if we were mad still, we both said no, he told us to vacate the bar.

He let us drive away absolutely drunk.


Sorry for the tangent, it just brought up a hilarious memory.