Fiscal Cliff.. - Page 4

AVGWarhawk · 12-27-12, 07:57 PM

Exactly. A fake economy. The spectacular housing industry that was found to be based on false numbers and misguiding purchasers of homes was incredibly bad. They still use the same practice even now. GM building cars for decades and not making a dime. I can say that GM did shed the dead weight of some divisions. Unfortunate for the workers certainly. The housing industry has tougher rules to qualify. My wife and I are having a home built. The approval process was nothing short of a body cavity search with repeated entry. We will get another body cavity search before closing. I hope for a reach around. At any rate, foreclosures are coming to a end. One hopes history will not repeat itself.

But yes, I know the taxes will go to the entitlement voters. Can I blame them? Yes, quite a few I can blame. These I can blame have been on the dole long before this issue.

geetrue · 12-27-12, 08:05 PM

Here's a thought for you:

Did you know that GE makes 5 billion dollars a year and pays no business taxes registered as an offshore company out of Bermuda?

Did you know that a certain unamed oil company reported a profit of 5 billion dollars last year?

Profit meaning that which is left after taking out the overhead which includes taxes

AVGWarhawk · 12-27-12, 08:23 PM

The WH is in bed with GE. GE is in position to make billions when Obamacare kicks in. Take some time and Google GE and this administration.

geetrue · 12-27-12, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The WH is in bed with GE. GE is in position to make billions when Obamacare kicks in. Take some time and Google GE and this administration.

I'll do that for sure ...

Do you know what President Nixon and President Obama have in common?

They both need/needed prayer

This is two years old ... makes you want to cry, uh?

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Ex NBA super star Antoine Devon Walker made over 110 million dollars but is now broke facing bankruptcy. He is forced to sell all of his assets and play in the minor leagues to raise money.

Armistead · 12-27-12, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Exactly. A fake economy. The spectacular housing industry that was found to be based on false numbers and misguiding purchasers of homes was incredibly bad. They still use the same practice even now. GM building cars for decades and not making a dime. I can say that GM did shed the dead weight of some divisions. Unfortunate for the workers certainly. The housing industry has tougher rules to qualify. My wife and I are having a home built. The approval process was nothing short of a body cavity search with repeated entry. We will get another body cavity search before closing. I hope for a reach around. At any rate, foreclosures are coming to a end. One hopes history will not repeat itself.

But yes, I know the taxes will go to the entitlement voters. Can I blame them? Yes, quite a few I can blame. These I can blame have been on the dole long before this issue.

Yea, but the past entitlement voters have always been around, today millions of non entitled middle class are falling into government care. Not sure what's going to happen when these programs are cut, people will circle the wagons and hang on or die.

My wife still helps part time at the SS offices, the horror stories she comes home with....They get many reports of kids going hungry and don't even have the funds to send agents to houses to check. We just had another plant close in our small town, another 400 jobs overseas....I bet they're 30 large closed mills here, only thing left is Miller....guess they need the beer closer to home.

AVGWarhawk · 12-27-12, 09:00 PM

Cry me a river. Another MC Hammer and Mike Tyson story.

AVGWarhawk · 12-27-12, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Yea, but the past entitlement voters have always been around, today millions of non entitled middle class are falling into government care. Not sure what's going to happen when these programs are cut, people will circle the wagons and hang on or die.

My wife still helps part time at the SS offices, the horror stories she comes home with....They get many reports of kids going hungry and don't even have the funds to send agents to houses to check. We just had another plant close in our small town, another 400 jobs overseas....I bet they're 30 large closed mills here, only thing left is Miller....guess they need the beer closer to home.

That is what I said, there are a few I can blame that have been on the dole before this. I can put more blame on the govt for not getting people off the dole. The takers out voted the producers. The govt knows very well it can get ugly if the bennies are cut. The govt is an integral part of the problem. I foresee extending benefits for the unemployed. We are still in recovery. One of the longest in history. Letting the Bush era tax cuts expire will kill any recovery we have experienced in the past four years.

Armistead · 12-28-12, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

That is what I said, there are a few I can blame that have been on the dole before this. I can put more blame on the govt for not getting people off the dole. The takers out voted the producers. The govt knows very well it can get ugly if the bennies are cut. The govt is an integral part of the problem. I foresee extending benefits for the unemployed. We are still in recovery. One of the longest in history. Letting the Bush era tax cuts expire will kill any recovery we have experienced in the past four years.

Yea, once the Bush tax cuts go, we're gonna see govt spending get even worse.....Now isn't the time to raise any taxes, we should be cutting spending big time across the board and getting govt out of every aspect of where people can do for themselves. I don't blame people when they're starving, no medical calre or shelter to go seeking govt. help, but it's gonna implode.

AVGWarhawk · 12-28-12, 10:10 AM

Spending. We have spent a better part of a decade at war. Spending for war materials was out of this world. Where is the new found money not being sent to a war zone?

mookiemookie · 12-28-12, 10:29 AM

A large part of the current deficit is also caused by the economic downturn. You'd think the idiots in congress would realize that and do whatever was necessary in order to prevent another recession, which is what we risk with this "fiscal cliff" according to Ben Bernanke.

AVGWarhawk · 12-28-12, 12:10 PM

I would believe another recession is at risk. Everyone will have to adjust their current budget and relearn how to live with less. So here we go, taxes increase and I will bet my right arm there will be zero deficit reduction. No shovel ready projects started. Infrastructure will still continue to deteriorate. The blowhards in DC will begin their campaigning to save their jobs. Sadly, if any one of us performed our jobs like these suck-wads we would be out on the street when performance reviews were completed. The voters sit like dumb ox hoping it will all just work out and Honey Boo Boo will air at the regularly scheduled time.

What does Bernanke care? All this means is he can let the printing machine take a rest for a day or so.

Armistead · 12-28-12, 02:08 PM

My guess is we're going over the cliff, so all our taxes are going up. Congress will probably try to make changes for the middle class next year.
It will cost my wife about 8 grand a year at our small dog kennel. We have 4 employees, 2 part time, so got to figure medical care. We can't raise prices, so two will have to go, if not all of them and we'll put out teens to work in the afternoon.

They could've passed middle class tax relief, but that ain't happening. However, we'll continue to give a few hundred billion in aid to the world.

Most reports say if we go off the cliff, it will cost about 3 million jobs in 2013....

Our government is nothing more than a lobby controlled mafia that should be jailed, another reason we need to protect our gun rights.

mookiemookie · 12-28-12, 02:32 PM

They'll screw around for another week or two, come up with some half-assed solution that only partially addresses things but mostly kicks the can down the road and make it retroactive to December 31st. Mark my words.

kraznyi_oktjabr · 12-28-12, 02:46 PM

Unless western countries introduce some measures which promote production within their area or force other contries to similar living standards as we have then we have to accept harsh reductions in our own.

AVGWarhawk · 12-28-12, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

They'll screw around for another week or two, come up with some half-assed solution that only partially addresses things but mostly kicks the can down the road and make it retroactive to December 31st. Mark my words.

In a nutshell but it should never come to this on any matter. It is tiresome at best.

12-27-12, 07:57 PM	#46
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,254 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Exactly. A fake economy. The spectacular housing industry that was found to be based on false numbers and misguiding purchasers of homes was incredibly bad. They still use the same practice even now. GM building cars for decades and not making a dime. I can say that GM did shed the dead weight of some divisions. Unfortunate for the workers certainly. The housing industry has tougher rules to qualify. My wife and I are having a home built. The approval process was nothing short of a body cavity search with repeated entry. We will get another body cavity search before closing. I hope for a reach around. At any rate, foreclosures are coming to a end. One hopes history will not repeat itself. But yes, I know the taxes will go to the entitlement voters. Can I blame them? Yes, quite a few I can blame. These I can blame have been on the dole long before this issue. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-27-12, 08:05 PM	#47
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Here's a thought for you: Did you know that GE makes 5 billion dollars a year and pays no business taxes registered as an offshore company out of Bermuda? Did you know that a certain unamed oil company reported a profit of 5 billion dollars last year? Profit meaning that which is left after taking out the overhead which includes taxes __________________

12-27-12, 08:23 PM	#48
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,254 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	The WH is in bed with GE. GE is in position to make billions when Obamacare kicks in. Take some time and Google GE and this administration. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-27-12, 09:00 PM	#51
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,254 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Cry me a river. Another MC Hammer and Mike Tyson story. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-28-12, 10:10 AM	#54
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,254 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Spending. We have spent a better part of a decade at war. Spending for war materials was out of this world. Where is the new found money not being sent to a war zone? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-28-12, 10:29 AM	#55
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	A large part of the current deficit is also caused by the economic downturn. You'd think the idiots in congress would realize that and do whatever was necessary in order to prevent another recession, which is what we risk with this "fiscal cliff" according to Ben Bernanke. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

12-28-12, 12:10 PM	#56
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,254 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I would believe another recession is at risk. Everyone will have to adjust their current budget and relearn how to live with less. So here we go, taxes increase and I will bet my right arm there will be zero deficit reduction. No shovel ready projects started. Infrastructure will still continue to deteriorate. The blowhards in DC will begin their campaigning to save their jobs. Sadly, if any one of us performed our jobs like these suck-wads we would be out on the street when performance reviews were completed. The voters sit like dumb ox hoping it will all just work out and Honey Boo Boo will air at the regularly scheduled time. What does Bernanke care? All this means is he can let the printing machine take a rest for a day or so. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-28-12, 02:08 PM	#57
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	My guess is we're going over the cliff, so all our taxes are going up. Congress will probably try to make changes for the middle class next year. It will cost my wife about 8 grand a year at our small dog kennel. We have 4 employees, 2 part time, so got to figure medical care. We can't raise prices, so two will have to go, if not all of them and we'll put out teens to work in the afternoon. They could've passed middle class tax relief, but that ain't happening. However, we'll continue to give a few hundred billion in aid to the world. Most reports say if we go off the cliff, it will cost about 3 million jobs in 2013.... Our government is nothing more than a lobby controlled mafia that should be jailed, another reason we need to protect our gun rights. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

12-28-12, 02:32 PM	#58
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	They'll screw around for another week or two, come up with some half-assed solution that only partially addresses things but mostly kicks the can down the road and make it retroactive to December 31st. Mark my words. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

12-28-12, 02:46 PM	#59
kraznyi_oktjabr Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Republiken Finland Posts: 1,803 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Unless western countries introduce some measures which promote production within their area or force other contries to similar living standards as we have then we have to accept harsh reductions in our own. __________________ You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic. - Dr. House