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![]() Your right it was luck, Apparently, in one case, a couple of rioters were 'kind enough' to go up in to the flats above a burning shop to bang on peoples doors - to warn them of the fire. Thats something i guess. But yeah, the Riots last year were not political, it was just opportunistic mayhem. |
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This just illustrates the insidious nature of the entitlement mentality. People who get something for nothing are nearly uncontrollable when that something is taken away because it cannot be afforded.
Look what happened in my home state when teachers were merely forced to chip in a little bit and not have more rights than the rest of the middle-class - they went ballistic. The entitlement mentality is the most destructive force in a societal construct. Instead of sacrificing something to make ends meet, people on the dole demand, often violently, that the actual producers of their largesse work and produce just a bit more. Unreal. |
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lol
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Bloody Heck this women is a perfect example of a two face cow.
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I DEMAND DIPLOMATIC STATUS!!
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You've got to hand it to the fat cats. They know how to feather their own nests. The hypocrisy is astounding.
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One rule for THEM and one rule for us
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Lagarde did not make the rules saying that international offices like the one she holds are not object to income tax payments.
Latest assessment on tax dodging in Greece says that 40% of Greek people avoid paying income tax. 20-25% pay their taxess - since years and decades! - in kind. The so-called "state" has neither the administrativ power nor the needed registers to control and en force tax payments. The rich elites have betrayed their people and fleed the country with their capital. All parties now again campaign with promising payments and benefits to the people that everybody should know they cannot pay for, because Greece won't get the money to afford that. It seems to me that many people still have not heared the starting shot. The EU does not even threaten Greece anymore, and Italy and Spain already are higher on the crisis management agenda. This should make Greece think. Instead - it starts to raise steeper demands than before, especially this left egoist who is in the headlines all day on. I liked the defence of Lagarde when she was challenged over her comments for lacking discipline and tax morale in Greece. It was sober, it was healthy reason, it was straight. Greece is in a bad situation, no doubt. But Greeks finally have to understand that they themselves have brought them there, by the failures of the past 3-4 years as well as the past decades. And in the end, the whole historical construction of this attempted, I would even say: failed state, brought them there. Considering the weak basis on which they based, it maybe was not clever to just pretend that they would be a state like any other adminstration in Europe by just acting "as if" without having the administrational, traditional and economical basis to run a state, not to mention to be a sovereign state. Sovereignity does not fall from the sky. It must be won and then maintained. Maybe Greece, in its history orf resistence against the Ottomans, won the right to one day become a sovereing state, yes. But it never assured the needs for maintaining it, at no point in modern history. And I do not see where this should come from now or in the forseeable future. For europe, it will always just be a bucket without bottom, like it has been for decades and centuries for those Western powers who maintained it because it was in a needed strategic geographic position. With the end of the cold war, the geography no longer is a trump card to play - and Greece failed on trying to develope alternatives to that. The collapse now is the result, and I see it as inevitable. Because it never was a sovereign, survivable state in the first, was always a massively subsidised entity maintained by foreign powers that now no longer are there. Bad for the people. But the brutal truth becomes not less harsh by not speaking it out.
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I agree...Greece will not be a part of the Euro by the end of the year at the latest.
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honestly, People like this woman in my mind are part of the new Bourgeoisie, At the expensive of maybe sounding a little like Marx, they don't really do anything near what their pay scale is. This Lady gets all this cash, and we just avoided (or maybe are still on the verge) of a total meltdown of the global economy...while these people still make sick amounts of money, yet helped cause it all.
If it would have been us little guys running the show, we'd all be fired and told where to shove it for our mistakes...but unfortunately the kind of power that come's with a no justification needed expense account is hard to overcome. But then again, I don't think it's an isolated problem...is just the fact that at the end of the day money talks...and it talks loud. Think of all the rich who get away with stuff just because they are rich and have a good accountant and lawyer.
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Euro will sort themselves out...
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Lucky Jack
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Are the G8..
Great food Great Drink Great seats Great time Great chat Great round of slapping each other on the backs, didn't we do well Answer: Kick the can down the road...Solved nothing. Lets do this again soon at the next G meeting.
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Heads on speers, put on display in every town's market place.
Medieval clergy and selfish aristocracy of past centuries could take lessons from corrupt and incompetent Europe today. The dogma of eternal growth is what has sealed our doom. Sustainability should have been the key criterion deciding everything else. What we choosed for, was craving for more instead. We are where we deserve to be. I see no longtermed rescue for us. Only collapse, and an evolutional dead end, because I do not think we will see a sudden jump in our ethical evolution. There is a 50.000 year gap between our softwar and our hardware. P.S. Sorry, but somoebody had to lift the mood again, I think.
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