The Bug Out Bag. - Page 4

Ducimus · 05-25-12, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Just take into consideration the physiological effect that a complete "end" would have as well all (or most) of your friends and family would be dead for starters and now you are stuck in a world where after your stash runs out you are going to have to survive from living off of the land if that is even possible and that you actually really know how to.

You are stuck in a world were most other humans may be very willing to kill or rape or even eat you sure you have guns but could you handle the physiological effect of dealing with this every day the fact that you might die at any moment could you actually even kill someone and if you did how would you handle the physiological effect after words?Will you be pushed to be as ruthless?

Knowing myself, physiologically, id be doing two things.
- unplugging
- compartmentalizing

I know this, cause i've already done it in the past. I honestly think once you've done that, your capable of anything. It took me a few years to undo that mental conditioning (more like defense mechanism). Now here's the thing that i don't know. Would i give up? I know i'm capable of accepting the situation , dealing with it, and pressing on. However, in a situation where pressing on is my decision to make and not one made for me, (where quiting was never an option) would i say to myself, "Well, this is it, it ain't getting any better. It's a world of excrement, and it just aint worth the struggle to continue.". Would i say that to myself (and i can see myself thinking it) put my pistol to my head and put myself out of my misery? Or would i fight on? THAT, i don't know.

As an aside, along with us on the doomsday train is National Geographic. If you have an hour and a half to kill, they have this interesting ehh.. documentary? Someone posted on youtube.

"In the year 2210, scientists uncover the ruins of a great civilization - so powerful one could argue it dwarfed anything that came before it. Sifting through the wreckage of cities overtaken by the desert and swallowed up by the sea, they piece together a remarkable story of collapse - the story of what on Earth happened to us."

Yeah, lets see someone doomsday prep for THAT.

Stealhead · 05-25-12, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Knowing myself, physiologically, id be doing two things.
- unplugging
- compartmentalizing

I know this, cause i've already done it in the past. I honestly think once you've done that, your capable of anything. It took me a few years to undo that mental conditioning (more like defense mechanism). Now here's the thing that i don't know. Would i give up? I know i'm capable of accepting the situation , dealing with it, and pressing on. However, in a situation where pressing on is my decision to make and not one made for me, (where quiting was never an option) would i say to myself, "Well, this is it, it ain't getting any better. It's a world of excrement, and it just aint worth the struggle to continue.". Would i say that to myself (and i can see myself thinking it) put my pistol to my head and put myself out of my misery? Or would i fight on? THAT, i don't know.

As an aside, along with us on the doomsday train is National Geographic. If you have an hour and a half to kill, they have this interesting ehh.. documentary? Someone posted on youtube.

"In the year 2210, scientists uncover the ruins of a great civilization - so powerful one could argue it dwarfed anything that came before it. Sifting through the wreckage of cities overtaken by the desert and swallowed up by the sea, they piece together a remarkable story of collapse - the story of what on Earth happened to us."

Yeah, lets see someone doomsday prep for THAT.

Hard to say on the suicide thing in such a situation surely the feeling would come to mind it is a true unknown until one is in that moment having experienced what they have in such a world gone to hell.

I recall that NatGeo show for such a thing no matter if you prepped or not you would sooner or latter be truly fighting to survive to say the least.

yubba · 05-26-12, 10:11 AM

Suicide is for quitters, I can't wait too see, investers jumpin from the roof tops, I bet it will look like leaves falling from the trees on a nice autumn day.

mookiemookie · 05-26-12, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by yubba

Suicide is for quitters, I can't wait too see, investers jumpin from the roof tops, I bet it will look like leaves falling from the trees on a nice autumn day.

You first.

Takeda Shingen · 05-26-12, 11:24 AM

I'd point out that the sort of thing that you all are describing has already happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Middle_Ages

Your bug out bag isn't going to help you very much.

yubba · 05-26-12, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

You first.

No no, you first, I insist.

Stealhead · 05-26-12, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I'd point out that the sort of thing that you all are describing has already happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Middle_Ages

Your bug out bag isn't going to help you very much.

I agree with you "bugging out" is going to do you little good in a situation occurring on a massive scale bug out implies leaving a bad place or situation and getting to a good one.Like a military might perform a tactical retreat but if there is no safe place to go where all is normal you cant bug out you can only hope to survive.

My plan will be to collect useful materials from all the dead people with bug out bags that surely will be along side roadways because they trampled each other in the process of bugging out.

Something on a mass extinction scale like a meteorite or a massive volcano throwing ash I see little point mother nature does these every so often to cleanse out things so the plan is that few survive if any do.You could have an entire preper city mother nature will crush it figuratively speaking just to show you who is really in charge.

mookiemookie · 05-26-12, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by yubba

No no, you first, I insist.

Not gonna happen, pal. We're making too much money.

u crank · 05-26-12, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

My plan will be to collect useful materials from all the dead people with bug out bags that surely will be along side roadways because they trampled each other in the process of bugging out.

Smart man. Good idea. Glad I didn't impulse buy.

mookiemookie · 05-26-12, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

My plan will be to collect useful materials from all the dead people with bug out bags that surely will be along side roadways because they trampled each other in the process of bugging out.

Watch out for walkers.

CaptainMattJ. · 05-27-12, 03:57 PM

well if MAD comes about i think id love to be front a center to a nuclear explosion. See one more spectacle before i die, because itd be a much fitter end than living underground for a couple years without football, internet,electricity, or sexy ladies.

Ducimus · 05-27-12, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Hard to say on the suicide thing in such a situation surely the feeling would come to mind it is a true unknown until one is in that moment having experienced what they have in such a world gone to hell.

True. I'm not sure i have the guts to pull the trigger in that hypothetical situation. Doing so takes a lot of courage, and a lot of conviction.

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Originally Posted by yubba

Suicide is for quitters,I can't wait too see, investers jumpin from the roof tops, I bet it will look like leaves falling from the trees on a nice autumn day.

I guess you've never lived in a situation that really sucks and pushed you to your mental and physical limits. That's ok, not everyone has, but i don't think this doomsday scenario your looking forward to would be the wonderful paradise you seem to think.

05-27-12, 07:12 PM

thats me sorted for the bug out
http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/n...3A-bug-science

Stealhead · 05-27-12, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Watch out for walkers.

Well the one thing I will buy is "sent of Zombie" known as "Fleur de la Zombie" in French if you smell like one they wont attack you they never show this in Zombie flicks because it would make them extremely boring.

Suicide under certain circumstances is not unreasonable If you are fighting a bunch of Islamic Fundamentalists who will if taken alive cut your head off like a sheep it would be wise if you knowing that they have you dead to rights to pull the pin on a grenade and let them take you then or shot yourself.People in our current war have done just that or similar a Navy Seal in 2002 that fell from a back of a Chinook survived the landing and was surrounded (a UAV saw his entire action) he engaged with his rifle until ammo was expended or it jammed then he faced down a machine gun nest with his side arm and was killed.

Other times a person might risk and loose thier life but that action saves others to me that is not quitting that was destiny letting you know what you where put here to do.

Suicide for a reason that you should have gotten back into the saddle and faced another day that is quitting.

05-27-12, 03:57 PM	#56
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	well if MAD comes about i think id love to be front a center to a nuclear explosion. See one more spectacle before i die, because itd be a much fitter end than living underground for a couple years without football, internet,electricity, or sexy ladies. __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

05-26-12, 10:11 AM	#48
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	Suicide is for quitters, I can't wait too see, investers jumpin from the roof tops, I bet it will look like leaves falling from the trees on a nice autumn day.

05-26-12, 11:24 AM	#50
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I'd point out that the sort of thing that you all are describing has already happened. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Middle_Ages Your bug out bag isn't going to help you very much.

05-27-12, 07:12 PM	#58
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	thats me sorted for the bug out http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/n...3A-bug-science