Hillary Clinton declares 'gay rights are human rights'

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Morts

Im not talking about that, im talking about the objecting to gay marriage part a page or two back.

But all gays are sexual deviant perverts on parade. Didn't you know that? That's why we can't allow them to marry.

They're sexual deviants and because of that, we need to deny them the chance to express their love, stability and monogamy in a committed relationship with the partner of their choice. It's a bulletproof argument.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Morts

Im not talking about that, im talking about the objecting to gay marriage part a page or two back.

Oh well. Too bad. There are millions of people who just don't want marriage redefined in the name of same sex orientation or any other arrangements. Get over it.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

But all gays are sexual deviant perverts on parade. Didn't you know that? That's why we can't allow them to marry.

They're sexual deviants and because of that, we need to deny them the chance to express their love, stability and monogamy in a committed relationship with the partner of their choice. It's a bulletproof argument.

No, they can express their love all they want. They can be monogamous if they want. They can be with a partner of their choosing. And if they wish to be married, they can......if they play by the rules and do it with someone of the opposite sex.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

We can go that route. I do have a problem with any public sexual indecency displayed at Mardi Gras and Carnival as well. Get a room. But like someone else pointed out, there's a far cry from flashing some T&A for beads and two gross looking homos conducting oral sex on the sidewalk, or the other thing that grossed me out at the Market street display......public group m*****bation.

I've seen full coitus happening on the streets at Mardi Gras; much more at Carnival. Sorry, but it is just as crass as what you described. The homosexual community does not have a monopoly on indecency.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Yup. Absolutely not comparable. Where's the public nudity and sex acts? Where's the gross public bodily fluid discharges? Where are the BDSM acts? Where are the sex toy demos? Where is the public m*****bation? You can find all that at a "homo pride" parade in Frisco.

What I see here are three girls walking in skimpy outfits. I've seen girls dressed in less during a day at the beach.

well, I wanted to play by the forum rules - I am sure you find some other pics - doesn't have to be Carnival in Rio, hell in our last years Carnival procession we had a 30 feet nude statue of our chancellor on a wagon - no beautiful sight
My point is that the amount of skin displayed in my sample picture is about the same amount of "nudity" you can see at an average gay parade.

I still have to ask you, why you went to the event if you are offended by the display of sexuality. It is certainly pannounced when those events happen is SF, don't like it, don't be in The Castro when the gays parade, don't want your kids to see it, don't bring them, easy as this.

[Gerald]

GENEVA — The Obama administration announced on Tuesday that the United States would use all the tools of American diplomacy, including the potent enticement of foreign aid, to promote gay rights around the world. In a memorandum issued by President Obama in Washington and in a speech by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton here, the administration vowed to actively combat efforts by other nations that criminalize homosexual conduct, abuse gay men, lesbians, bisexuals or transgendered people, or ignore abuse against them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/wo...html?ref=world

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

The homosexual community does not have a monopoly on indecency.

No but their indecency is often deliberately flaunted in situations where such behavior is clearly inappropriate. Madigras and Carnival, especially at night, are adult events. I expect to see drunken people doing such things. Saint Patricks day parades on the other hand are family events where sex, regardless of orientation, is out of place.

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

They're sexual deviants and because of that, we need to deny them the chance to express their love, stability and monogamy in a committed relationship with the partner of their choice. It's a bulletproof argument.

You do realize that some states even let gays adopt children?

The state of California nows requires teaching of gay friendly in 1st to 12th grade by the teachers even if they are not.

It's now a law ...

It's just a matter of time, but this is sooner than I thought.

I wonder if you could get amnesty fom another country and be allowed to live in America based on being gay?

[Sailor Steve]

Probably true, and the offending behavior, if it violates laws, should be punished. Like the comparisons between marijuana and alcohol, the comparison itself is fruitless, since it's the behavior that needs to be contained. And like those comparisons, it appears to me that comparisons are being made here for the purpose of finger-pointing and generalization.

Does the public display of offensive behavior mean that all gays are evil? Or does the belief that all gays are evil lead to looking for said behavior and singling it out? For some here it would seem so.

[Morts]

Originally Posted by geetrue

You do realize that some states even let gays adopt children?

So ? nothing wrong with that

One of my best friends was Bi-sexual way back when it was NOT something you talked about.
He was a tiny bit 'fruity' in dress and presentation and I had many good fights in bad Bars standing up for him.
He died while I was in the Service and I could not carry him to his Grave.
Which I still regret to this day!
A very good female friend now is Bi-sexual and VERY open about it.
Often wanting to show me pictures of her and her friends.
(Sometimes I do look at them)

I don't judge them by thier sexuality. Never have, never will.
They proved to me that they were and are true friends.
They deserve all the rights I have no matter what.

To deny them thier rights in anyway opens the door to deny me my rights.
As a Biker? I know all about being denied rights and the fight you must make to insure you are not denied them.

I laugh at the so called 'parades'.
To judge all other-sexuals by those things is to judge all (Insert Race) by any Gang activity.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by geetrue

You do realize that some states even let gays adopt children?

Yes, a lesbian couple that are friends of mine have an adopted little boy that's absolutely spoiled rotten with love and attention. A kid couldn't have better parents than them.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

No but their indecency is often deliberately flaunted in situations where such behavior is clearly inappropriate. Madigras and Carnival, especially at night, are adult events. I expect to see drunken people doing such things. Saint Patricks day parades on the other hand are family events where sex, regardless of orientation, is out of place.

I would not label the homosexual community by what is described in the posts above. To do so would be akin to placing all heterosexuals in the category that you would see at Mardi Gras or Carnival. Furthermore, I have never seen or heard of such a parade as mentioned above being touted as a family event, making the comparison with Mardi Gras an apt one. As such, the problem seems to be with decency, not sexual orientation. Otherwise, Saint Patricks Day parades become a salient comparison.

A gay marriage thread is never complete without some good old fashioned bigotry

I wonder if Demons outrage over gays is the usual case, he is really a poof but is still feeling Haggard about it?

[Takeda Shingen]

That's way over the line.