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Old 11-03-11, 12:09 PM   #46
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It's a good choice, the 212s are a solid class of boats. I just hope that Greece doesn't drag you down with it when it goes.
Didn't the Greeks cancel one or send one back or something of that nature?
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Old 11-03-11, 12:11 PM   #47
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They should do so....if not
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Old 11-03-11, 12:17 PM   #48
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I may have been thinking of this...dates back to May:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...74L0B320110522
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Old 11-03-11, 12:20 PM   #49
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Old 11-03-11, 12:27 PM   #50
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I may have been thinking of this...dates back to May:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...74L0B320110522
Yeah, but they were the 214s, the Greek trouble boats. The 212s are a little better, because the 214s are geared more towards exporting.
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Old 11-03-11, 05:57 PM   #51
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I don't know much about the Italian war effort other than the sank many of our ships, heh. But Italy design some of the most spectacular machines know to man.

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But Italy design some of the most spectacular machines know to man.




I don't think we are talking about the same Italy. We are talking about the one that built stuff like this:
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Plus in my head you sound just like Fabio from Top Chef, and it's adorable.
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Old 11-03-11, 06:42 PM   #54
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Yeah, but they were the 214s, the Greek trouble boats. The 212s are a little better, because the 214s are geared more towards exporting.
Rgr that matey
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We are talking about the one that built stuff like this:
Good point, that would be comparable in armament and performance to masterpieces of the same years, so the Italians were matching such advanced foriegn designs as errrr...the later M2
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Old 11-03-11, 07:17 PM   #56
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Yeah, but they were the 214s, the Greek trouble boats. The 212s are a little better, because the 214s are geared more towards exporting.
But the question remains...can they afford them?
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Old 11-03-11, 07:24 PM   #57
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Nope, that's Manuel. He's from Barcelona.
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Italy had a pretty sizable sub fleet didnt it?, I wish there was a bit more info on italian subs.
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Italy had a pretty sizable sub fleet didnt it?, I wish there was a bit more info on italian subs.
When they entered the war in June 1940, the Italian navy had 115 submarines, of which 84 were operational. However, a shocking 10 were lost in the first twenty days of action, due partly to flaws in quality, or poor training, and partly due to reckless bravado. After that experience the Italians never had more than 25 to 30 boats operational at any one time. With a few bright exceptions they were poorly directed and accomplished little.
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