A Tipping Point for Gay Marriage?

Gerald · 05-01-11, 04:43 PM

WASHINGTON — It’s not every day that a leading law firm fires a client for holding a position so extreme that it may be said to be unworthy of a defense. And it is rarer yet — unheard of, really — when that client is the House of Representatives and the position in question is a federal law.

Yet that is just what King & Spalding, a venerable Atlanta firm, did last week. Under pressure from gay rights groups and apparently fearful of criticism from the law students it recruits and the corporate clients it serves, the firm said it would not defend the federal Defense of Marriage Act against a challenge that it violates the Constitution.

The episode has so far mostly been discussed as a matter of legal ethics, and the firm has had a rough ride. But there is something larger going on, too.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/we.../01gay.html?hp

Note: Published: April 30, 2011

frau kaleun · 05-01-11, 06:24 PM

Bakkels · 05-01-11, 06:28 PM

"This video contains content from SME. It is not available in your country. Sorry about that."

Can't see it Frau...

And I second what Fish in the water said btw

frau kaleun · 05-01-11, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels

"This video contains content from SME. It is not available in your country. Sorry about that."

Can't see it Frau...

Well, the video part was just a still picture, it was all about the song. At least I can get you the lyrics (I hope).

http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/the-ti...-are-a-changin

Bakkels · 05-01-11, 07:10 PM

Ah ok. No lyrics needed, I know them by heart

Sailor Steve · 05-01-11, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Just this morning I was listing to part one of the Bootleg series, which contains his original demo, played on piano.

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Originally Posted by Bakkels

Can't see it Frau...

It's Bob Dylan's classic 'The Times, They Are A-Changin''

Fish In The Water · 05-01-11, 06:28 PM

Pardon the off-topic reply, but it's good to see you (and your news stories) back on-line. Best thoughts, prayers and wishes...

Gerald · 05-01-11, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish In The Water

Pardon the off-topic reply, but it's good to see you (and your news stories) back on-line. Best thoughts, prayers and wishes...

Thanks for that,

GoldenRivet · 05-01-11, 09:47 PM

Let the gays marry for God's sake!

why should the happiness of single life be reserved for them?

they will get their right's to marry - and gay divorce lawyers will make a killing - gay people will grow to regret their desires to marry.

Stealhead · 05-01-11, 10:40 PM

That was pretty damn funny Golden.

The odd thing is I recall reading someplace I think it was in some psychology or sociology book I read for college it mentioned that in studies homosexual men had the highest failure rate of any group when it came to maintaining a long term relationship of any form.

Penguin · 05-02-11, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Let the gays marry for God's sake!

why should the happiness of single life be reserved for them?

they will get their right's to marry - and gay divorce lawyers will make a killing - gay people will grow to regret their desires to marry.

Or like one of your best politicians, Kinky Friedman, said:
"I support gay marriage because I believe they have right to be just as miserable as the rest of us!"

(http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in788935.shtml)

Gerald · 05-02-11, 07:03 AM

Gays get married here and there, which takes place in an open society, the difference is if you live in a communist country or a regime that does not allow stuff like this happens

Gerald · 05-02-11, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Let the gays marry for God's sake!

why should the happiness of single life be reserved for them?

they will get their right's to marry - and gay divorce lawyers will make a killing - gay people will grow to regret their desires to marry.

Like, they're like an ordinary couple who run into problems, in the event of divorce

Armistead · 05-02-11, 07:55 AM

I'm long over it. A gay couple has lived in my neighborhood for over 15 years, if they got married I doubt I would notice any changes or that all the men here would turn gay. I can see two of my s8 married neighbors talking.

"I heard Bob and Bill got married"
"They did, now my marriage is over"
"You think that's bad, now I feel gay."

I tire of this give them unions, sort of marriage lite. If they want a union fine, but they deserve the right to a marriage as well in a church of their choice if wanted.

Some claim gay marriage would ruin traditional marriage, with a divorce rate of over 70% I highly doubt they could ruin it more. Like others say, if they want the misery of marriage, fine, make the misery binding.

05-01-11, 04:43 PM	#1
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	A Tipping Point for Gay Marriage? WASHINGTON — It’s not every day that a leading law firm fires a client for holding a position so extreme that it may be said to be unworthy of a defense. And it is rarer yet — unheard of, really — when that client is the House of Representatives and the position in question is a federal law. Yet that is just what King & Spalding, a venerable Atlanta firm, did last week. Under pressure from gay rights groups and apparently fearful of criticism from the law students it recruits and the corporate clients it serves, the firm said it would not defend the federal Defense of Marriage Act against a challenge that it violates the Constitution. The episode has so far mostly been discussed as a matter of legal ethics, and the firm has had a rough ride. But there is something larger going on, too. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/we.../01gay.html?hp Note: Published: April 30, 2011 __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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Bakkels Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 709 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 6	"This video contains content from SME. It is not available in your country. Sorry about that." Can't see it Frau... And I second what Fish in the water said btw __________________ My sh3 skins : http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/Bakkels Or go to the sh3 downloads section > skins

05-01-11, 07:10 PM	#5
Bakkels Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 709 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 6	Ah ok. No lyrics needed, I know them by heart __________________ My sh3 skins : http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/Bakkels Or go to the sh3 downloads section > skins

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Let the gays marry for God's sake! why should the happiness of single life be reserved for them? they will get their right's to marry - and gay divorce lawyers will make a killing - gay people will grow to regret their desires to marry. __________________

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Gays get married here and there, which takes place in an open society, the difference is if you live in a communist country or a regime that does not allow stuff like this happens __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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Fish In The Water Prince of the Sea SUBSIM Welcome Committee Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Watching over U-253 Posts: 3,527 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 2	Pardon the off-topic reply, but it's good to see you (and your news stories) back on-line. Best thoughts, prayers and wishes...

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Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	That was pretty damn funny Golden. The odd thing is I recall reading someplace I think it was in some psychology or sociology book I read for college it mentioned that in studies homosexual men had the highest failure rate of any group when it came to maintaining a long term relationship of any form.

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I'm long over it. A gay couple has lived in my neighborhood for over 15 years, if they got married I doubt I would notice any changes or that all the men here would turn gay. I can see two of my s8 married neighbors talking. "I heard Bob and Bill got married" "They did, now my marriage is over" "You think that's bad, now I feel gay." I tire of this give them unions, sort of marriage lite. If they want a union fine, but they deserve the right to a marriage as well in a church of their choice if wanted. Some claim gay marriage would ruin traditional marriage, with a divorce rate of over 70% I highly doubt they could ruin it more. Like others say, if they want the misery of marriage, fine, make the misery binding.