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Old 04-25-11, 04:59 PM   #46
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Impulse drives have a lot to answer for, with the whole Voyager landing on planets thing. Apparently the Defiant could do that too, but had no need for such a gimmick. The Enterprise D could too, but only when Deanna was driving.


Apparently the refit constituion class could land the 1º (saucer ) hull as a huge lifeboat! Can not recall if the original design had such feature.
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Old 04-25-11, 05:04 PM   #47
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Apparently the refit constituion class could land the 1º (saucer ) hull as a huge lifeboat! Can not recall if the original design had such feature.
The original Constitution class (the original series) was supposed to be able to do it, but they never got around to ever doing, or mentioning it. If I recall correctly, it was mentioned in some early series documents, but never made it into the show until TNG.


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Old 04-25-11, 05:42 PM   #48
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The original Constitution class (the original series) was supposed to be able to do it, but they never got around to ever doing, or mentioning it. If I recall correctly, it was mentioned in some early series documents, but never made it into the show until TNG.


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Take it for what you will.
I take it to mean the later shows had incompetent crews that lost their ships too often.

That was a "meh" list, IMHO. Better to include books
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Unless you watch that POS remake star trek movie that came out in 2009 then you would have seen the Enterprise being made in pieces on earth and "somehow" put in to orbit.
Kirk's 1st Enterprise was built at "San Fransisco Fleet Yards" they never mentioned if it was in orbit or Planetside.

Also in the original series episode Tomorrow is Yesterday the Enterprise gets thrown back in time and ends up in Earth's atmosphere and is able to operate normally, it even gets chased down by a 1960's era F-104 Starfighter.

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Also in the original series episode Tomorrow is Yesterday the Enterprise gets thrown back in time and ends up in Earth's atmosphere and is able to operate normally, it even gets chased down by a 1960's era F-104 Starfighter.
When's the last time you watched that episode? It's been a long time for me, but I seem to recall they were doing anything but operating normally. I think they even mentioned the ship not being built to operate in an atmosphere.
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When's the last time you watched that episode? It's been a long time for me, but I seem to recall they were doing anything but operating normally. I think they even mentioned the ship not being built to operate in an atmosphere.
Couple of years.

Then again when was the last time the Enterprise operated normally?

EDIT: Just watched the start of the episode and the only problem was that the Enterprise had was it was sluggish in the atmosphere with damaged engines.
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EDIT: Just watched the start of the episode and the only problem was that the Enterprise had was it was sluggish in the atmosphere with damaged engines.
Hmm...

Maybe I just assume with simple '60s mentality that anything shaped like that would have to be non-atmospheric. No aerodynamics at all, just brute force.
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It's supposed to be sci-fi ships, unless your trying to suggest something...
There has always been a suggestion that this landing was science-fiction and staged.
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Aww jeez, another Trek fantasy thread. >>> I personally think the Rising Star from the orig BSG should be on the list (at the expense of one of the NUMEROUS Trek ships that never saw more that 5 seconds of screen time).


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Hmm...

Maybe I just assume with simple '60s mentality that anything shaped like that would have to be non-atmospheric. No aerodynamics at all, just brute force.
Don't forget the ship's Structural Integrity Field holds the ship together stronger than its bare metal alone. Also the ship's deflector could create an aerodynamic bubble around the ship.
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