Gaza militants fire dozens of mortars into Israel

WoW Tribesman in what way?
Pleas tell me what you think.....maybe what one cant see from here YOU see from there...it happens sometimes.

It doesn't follow the usual patterns.
Small bag bomb, no praise be the martyrs sh!te, no death to zionists crap, no claims of responsibility at all.
The location would suggest its outa the west bank or a domestic, but who? It just doesn't fit with the usual unusual schemes.

Just don't tell me the Zionist right wing did it .

A price tag attack? No I don't think so, they are up in arms again but it would be more likely shooting a bus full of arabs rather than blowing up a jerusalem bus station

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

It doesn't follow the usual patterns.
Small bag bomb, no praise be the martyrs sh!te, no death to zionists crap, no claims of responsibility at all.
The location would suggest its outa the west bank or a domestic, but who? It just doesn't fit with the usual unusual schemes.

Gaza is cosed.
Life in PA isn't bad.
PA and IDF don't let hamas mess around too much in West Bank.
Possibly it was done by or with collaboration of an Israeli Palestinian...it happens sometimes.

PA and IDF don't let hamas mess around too much in West Bank.

Thats why it doesn't seem like it could be them, but with all the other factors it doesn't fit any of the other main groups really either. A new splinter perhaps(as though there ain't enough of them already) or a lone nut.
Also the Itamar murders, thats seems unusual also, a little bit like an old Hez incident but not very much.

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Or it could be an agent provocateur.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Thats why it doesn't seem like it could be them, but with all the other factors it doesn't fit any of the other main groups really either. A new splinter perhaps(as though there ain't enough of them already) or a lone nut.
Also the Itamar murders, thats seems unusual also, a little bit like an old Hez incident but not very much.

Maybe...
Don't try to link this to bombing from Gaza tho.
Hamas can play dumb and blame Islamic Jihad or whom ever for one or few shootings but this is far beyond that.
Anyways if they cant control or dont want to control whats going on it doesn't matter anyway.
It needs to be stopped.
BW
Don't even think that giving them political stage can pacify them.

Maybe...
Don't try to link this to bombing from Gaza tho.

No definately, its different.

Hamas can play dumb and blame Islamic Jihad or whom ever for one or few shootings but this is far beyond that.

Its one of the occasions where they have claimed their launches and al-quds have claimed theirs.

Anyways if they cant control or dont want to control whats going on it doesn't matter anyway.
It needs to be stopped.

But how?
bombing hasn't worked, assasinations havn't worked, occupation hasn't, blockades, embargoes .....

Don't even think that giving them political stage can pacify them.

The same has been said about hundreds of groups that eventually got on the stage and became quiet.

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

No definately, its different.


Its one of the occasions where they have claimed their launches and al-quds have claimed theirs.

But how?
bombing hasn't worked, assasinations havn't worked, occupation hasn't, blockades, embargoes .....


The same has been said about hundreds of groups that eventually got on the stage and became quiet.

why hammas should be one of those groups when its getting what it needs by doing what its doing.
Israel is now by UN definition a war criminals coutry that dosnt have right to defend itself.
Same UN that had Quadafi in Human Rights Concul with some other exotic coutries.

Oh dear, had a bad day MH?
You were doing so well.
But as usual.....

Israel is now by UN definition a war criminals coutry that dosnt have right to defend itself.

....back into bunker mentality.
Write again when you rejoin reality.

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You got emotional again.
No faces this time.
That improvment.
Its you that need to catch with reality.
No its me.......
Its you........
Me.........
LOL
internet is great.

Thats better.
The UN says Israel does war crimes when Israel war crimes just as it does when others do them.
War crimes are defined so a country or non state actor fits that definition when it fits the definition, there is nothing you can do about that apart from re defining war crimes or stopping doing what is already defined as war crimes.
No one has said Israel isn't allowed to defend itself.
Actually on defence did you read this "liberal" piece this morning.....
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...-dome-1.351460
Do you think the main issue there is really cost?
After all extensive 24 coverage with a relatively costly system to counter an ineffective(apart from propoganda value) inaccurate, very cheap but wealthily funded throwaway threat.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Thats better.
.

Wow ......im glad you came to your sences

Originally Posted by Tribesman

The UN says Israel does war crimes when Israel war crimes just as it does when others do them.
War crimes are defined so a country or non state actor fits that definition when it fits the definition, there is nothing you can do about that apart from re defining war crimes or stopping doing what is already defined as war crimes.
.

Thats bull and you know it.
I wonder if you really belive in this....

Originally Posted by Tribesman

No one has said Israel isn't allowed to defend itself.
.

Thank you.....

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Actually on defence did you read this "liberal" piece this morning.....
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...-dome-1.351460
Do you think the main issue there is really cost?
After all extensive 24 coverage with a relatively costly system to counter an ineffective(apart from propoganda value) inaccurate, very cheap but wealthily funded throwaway threat.

Do you now for really how unefective those Grad rockets are?
And why?
How they are deployed and why?
Do you know how effective they are when they hit on mark?
Would you like to come here and test it yourself.

The haaretz and Iron Dome article is a mix of speculation mixed with SF-reread it.
But even in anything in it is true it doesn't really change anything...dos it?
If you bases your opinion on this and articles by Gideon Levi i understand where you come from.

From my point of view IDFs strategy should never be forcing Israeli citizens to live under iron dome- as primary mean of defending Israel.
It would make living here meaningless.
IDF needs to courter terrorism actively.
Tell me more how Grad rockets are ineffective and its all just Israeli propaganda.

Deploing vulcans in Beeer Sheva you got to be kiddin me.....

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ooops double post

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12837951

Thats bull and you know it.

No, thats true and you simply don't like the fact.
Oh dear you appear to have lost it again.
Been through it all before with you....

If you bases your opinion on this and articles by Gideon Levi i understand where you come from.

It was you who didn't even know the IDF has its own news site and publishes its own reports, its you who doesn't read the releases from the Knesset and its yo who seems completely ignorant of any settler media sources.
In short it is you who demonstrates again and again that your opinions are based on very little information at all and go into hysterics anytime you don't like what you hear.

Tell me more how Grad rockets are ineffective and its all just Israeli propaganda.

see how your bunker mentality paranoia affects you reading abilities

Isn't it funny how I ask if you have read article and ask about a view not really dealt with in that article and you just go off on a rant.

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

In short it is you who demonstrates again and again that your opinions are based on very little information at all and go into hysterics anytime you don't like what you hear.
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Still its better that yours....
(kido style answer)

Originally Posted by Tribesman

see how your bunker mentality paranoia affects you reading abilities
.

This always works on internet.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Isn't it funny how I ask if you have read article and ask about a view not really dealt with in that article and you just go off on a rant.

Did you spot some UFOs while reading in between lines.
You base your knowlage of Israeli mentality and world view on reading haaretz(seems you like Gidon Levi a lot-attention whore drama queen) and settlers sites.
Oh well....you read on IDF site-excellent.
Haaretz is generally good news site by the way.

Reread all the crap you wrote.
re-think it and you will understand that what you propose can turn Israel into a ****ing bunker for its citizens.
I consider my self as very liberal person but far from this left activist crap that is getting more and more popular .
You think of your self so sophisticated that you cant see when you get used and ****ed over.
As some Palestinian said-European pubic is like a bunch of sheeps.

Thats end of discussion or rant for me...