Why Obama is so bad and why Europe loves him

Bubblehead1980 · 09-18-10, 02:55 PM

Dick Morris is my favorite political guy out there, the man really should run for President.

Morris explains why Obama remains popular in Europe.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4341641/w...lar-in-europe/

DarkFish · 09-18-10, 03:07 PM

I don't need Dick Morris for that, it's pretty simple. Obama is less right (or more far left from your viewpoint) than most other US politicians. Many changes he's been trying to introduce have already been working quite good for many decades here in Europe.

09-18-10, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkFish

I don't need Dick Morris for that, it's pretty simple. Obama is less right (or more far left from your viewpoint) than most other US politicians. Many changes he's been trying to introduce have already been working quite good for many decades here in Europe.

The standards of what is working well are obviously much different in Europe.

DarkFish · 09-18-10, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Third Man

The standards of what is working well are obviously much different in Europe.

I don't know, it depends.
If the US standards mean bad prosperity, bad health, unequal wealth distribution and general unhappiness, then obviously you are right and they are very different. If not, then perhaps they are not so different as you like to think.

Aramike · 09-18-10, 06:17 PM

Quote:

If the US standards mean bad prosperity

Only a European would use the phrase "bad prosperity".

Quote:

unequal wealth distribution

So wait, you say Europe has equal wealth distribution?

If you did, you would all be impoverished.

Quote:

general unhappiness

Your gauge for this is what?

DarkFish · 09-19-10, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aramike

Only a European would use the phrase "bad prosperity".

Maybe, fact is that most countries in western Europe are at least as prosperous as the US.

Quote:

So wait, you say Europe has equal wealth distribution?

Of course not. I do say Europe has a relatively equal wealth distribution compared to the US.

Quote:

If you did, you would all be impoverished.

Or we would all be enriched

This is just capitalist propaganda talk, that for some reason a relatively equal wealth distribution should mean that everyone is poor.

Quote:

Your gauge for this is what?

That most people here are happy.

Remember, I do not say all these things aren't so or cannot be in the US. I only say that TheThirdMan's claim that the US and Europe use very different standards is false.

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

So hang on what do you make of Norway and Sweden?

Both socialist states, but regularly hitting the top of best country league tables, universal health care, happines etc....

Pretty high standards if I must say.

You hit the nail on the head

JU_88 · 09-18-10, 03:11 PM

So basically he implying that we're a bunch of self intreasted communists?

Good ol 'Faux News' scaremonging again

Two words for you "Foriegn policy"

tater · 09-18-10, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JU_88

So basically he implying that we're a bunch of self intreasted communists?

Good ol 'Faux News' scaremonging again

Two words for you "Foriegn policy"

Did you listen to what he actually said on the point? He said that the specific opinion difference in Italy is partially that the country has a substantial electorate that is well left of the US, so any "left" will be more popular than right.

More importantly, I think he's spot on when discussing the national interest of Italy (and Europe) WRT the US in terms of capital flight. The bottom line is is it in the European interest to have a strong US that doesn't "look like" Europe. The answer is "no, it's not in their interest."

The rest falls out of that. I want the kind of US that I want, and if that is "bad" for the rest of the world... I don't really care. When it's in my personal interest to care, I will.

Cohaagen · 09-18-10, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater

I want the kind of US that I want, and if that is "bad" for the rest of the world... I don't really care. When it's in my personal interest to care, I will.

09-19-10, 03:49 AM

To try to group all the lands, and peoples of Europe as sharing a single political agenda is not realistic. I don't see him percieved as a popular president at all, but then I don't live in Italy.

XabbaRus · 09-19-10, 04:23 AM

So hang on what do you make of Norway and Sweden?

Both socialist states, but regularly hitting the top of best country league tables, universal health care, happines etc....

Pretty high standards if I must say.

GoldenRivet · 09-21-10, 10:58 PM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...n_an_idea.html

by at least 40 years at that.

Bubblehead1980 · 09-21-10, 11:38 PM

LOL nothing he says or does surprises me anymore really.Obviously he does not know his history very well.

Gerald · 09-21-10, 11:47 PM

Like this statement puts his personality on the game, which I am not surprised at, now more anything can happen

GoldenRivet · 09-21-10, 11:56 PM

Obama flaw #186

Does not believe in American greatness.

Did anyone notice how he couldn't at least choke out the "by our creator..." when he said "endowed with certain unalienable rights"?

09-18-10, 03:07 PM	#2
DarkFish Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stinking drunk in Eindhoven, the Netherlands Posts: 1,844 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	I don't need Dick Morris for that, it's pretty simple. Obama is less right (or more far left from your viewpoint) than most other US politicians. Many changes he's been trying to introduce have already been working quite good for many decades here in Europe. __________________

09-19-10, 04:23 AM	#11
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	So hang on what do you make of Norway and Sweden? Both socialist states, but regularly hitting the top of best country league tables, universal health care, happines etc.... Pretty high standards if I must say. __________________

09-21-10, 10:58 PM	#12
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Commissar Obama re-writes history http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...n_an_idea.html by at least 40 years at that. __________________

09-21-10, 11:47 PM	#14
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Like this statement puts his personality on the game, which I am not surprised at, now more anything can happen __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

09-21-10, 11:56 PM	#15
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Obama flaw #186 Does not believe in American greatness. Did anyone notice how he couldn't at least choke out the "by our creator..." when he said "endowed with certain unalienable rights"? __________________

09-18-10, 02:55 PM	#1
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,100 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Why Obama is so bad and why Europe loves him Dick Morris is my favorite political guy out there, the man really should run for President. Morris explains why Obama remains popular in Europe. http://video.foxnews.com/v/4341641/w...lar-in-europe/

09-18-10, 03:11 PM	#7
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	So basically he implying that we're a bunch of self intreasted communists? Good ol 'Faux News' scaremonging again Two words for you "Foriegn policy"

09-19-10, 03:49 AM	#10
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	To try to group all the lands, and peoples of Europe as sharing a single political agenda is not realistic. I don't see him percieved as a popular president at all, but then I don't live in Italy.

09-21-10, 11:38 PM	#13
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,100 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	LOL nothing he says or does surprises me anymore really.Obviously he does not know his history very well.