French Senate votes to ban Islamic full veil in public

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Vendor

so it feels natural to follow the laws and regulations adequately, and that means that if a ban is up, which in this case, I can not see that it is possible to ignore, regardless of the Religion in question, in this particular case the controversy is speaking for several reasons

Wait until the EU dictatorship embarks on it. They will not let their prime hobby-project down, promised (although several European countries, amongst the both France and Germany, have valid laws in their law codes that ban full face coverings in general, which includes ski masks as well as veils or burkhas - just nobody dares to remind of that unwelcomed legal fact anymore - pointing out the law can be taken as an offence by some sensible people).

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Wait until the EU dictatorship embarks on it. They will not let their prime hobby-project down, promised (although several European countries, amongst the both France and Germany, have valid laws in their law codes that ban full face coverings in general, which includes ski masks as well as veils or burkhas - just nobody dares to remind of that unwelcomed legal fact anymore - pointing out the law can be taken as an offence by some sensible people).

and it's just a matter of time if a switch to operate in a way that benefits the citizen,it is as I see it wrong people at the top, which in turn makes it extremely top-down and bureaucratic,Sovereignty countries should not be questioned.

If you believe in republican government then all is right in France.

The same goes to Obama democrats and their problems.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Vendor

and it's just a matter of time if a switch to operate in a way that benefits the citizen,it is as I see it wrong people at the top, which in turn makes it extremely top-down and bureaucratic,Sovereignty countries should not be questioned.

The reorientation of the EU over the past 15, 20 years, was done with the explciit goal on mind to destroy the sovereignity of nations and their elected parliaments, and to replace it with a centralised superstate that has a ruling commission at the top that is beyond the need of democratic legitimation by the European people. By valid EU trewaties and laws, national parliamnts can no longer pobject to demkands by the EU comission. And the comission's head is decided on behind closed doors by only the head of governments.

There is a reason why I call the EU a dicatorship. The reason is simple: by design and intention it now is, and by behavior it more and more reveals that. The EU comission now wants to raise its own taxes directly from the European people. Over 80% of the legislation in Germany is about laws that the EU comission has filed in as a demand. National parliaments have no legal rights to object them even if it violates their national constitutions. They must wave it through. And exactly that is what is happening - since many years now.

Beside Islam in Europe, the EU of the past 20 years os the biggest catastrophe in Europe since WWII. And both must be listed now amongst the biggest cultural disasters in all European history alltogether. Two disasters, walking hand in hand and turning upside down everything that has been acchieved in Europe in freedoms and liberties and legal and democratic standards. It's not about strengthening democracy. It is about deconstructing democracy - but lulling people about it.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Skybird

The reorientation of the EU over the past 15, 20 years, was done with the explciit goal on mind to destroy the sovereignity of nations and their elected parliaments, and to replace it with a centralised superstate that has a ruling commission at the top that is beyond the need of democratic legitimation by the European people. By valid EU trewaties and laws, national parliamnts can no longer pobject to demkands by the EU comission. And the comission's head is decided on behind closed doors by only the head of governments.

There is a reason why I call the EU a dicatorship. The reason is simple: by design and intention it now is, and by behavior it more and more reveals that. The EU comission now wants to raise its own taxes directly from the European people. Over 80% of the legislation in Germany is about laws that the EU comission has filed in as a demand. National parliaments have no legal rights to object them even if it violates their national constitutions. They must wave it through. And exactly that is what is happening - since many years now.

Beside Islam in Europe, the EU of the past 20 years os the biggest catastrophe in Europe since WWII. And both must be listed now amongst the biggest cultural disasters in all European history alltogether. Two disasters, walking hand in hand and turning upside down everything that has been acchieved in Europe in freedoms and liberties and legal and democratic standards. It's not about strengthening democracy. It is about deconstructing democracy - but lulling people about it.

and this has consequences, not just related to religion but also on the whole all by the EU expanding to other countries, which occurs when the victorious tenth of them own ranks causing side effects in several areas, the currency is one countries that they do not use € are significant independent and have a greater effect to act decisively,I can see a scenario that in the high 10 years when there is not this form of the union no longer.