[REQ] BUY the rights on SH5 on our own?!

urfisch · 06-20-10, 09:55 AM

The whole concept is not, what we wanted to play. I never played this game longer than a few minutes. Too many mistakes and missing features. And i guess, many also sign to this more or less. The sparks do not strike.

SO, what to do???

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I had an interesting thought this day. What about buying the open code from the sh-series with the power of community?

How many people would give some money for that? Cause if we had the open source, we could develop the series as to our needs and sell the new created stuff as an addon, or sh6.

There could be several scenarios possible, to get hand on the code. Maybe buy it in one piece, maybe just a share of it. In this case, ubisoft could benefit from the power of our skilled modders here and get a share from the sold copies of an community developed addon.

The question is, how many people would take part in such an action? With money, or with manpower.

Dowly · 06-20-10, 10:11 AM

Went with 'No, I'm not interested' because this never gonna happen. Enough with these "give us SDK!", "Let's buy the code!", "Let's kidnap their family pets and ask [X] for ransom".

Take it like the dirty bitch you are for buying the game, on your knees with wang in your mouth. (Yes, I bought it, so I'm sucking too.. sigh...)

The General · 06-20-10, 10:26 AM

Lol, that was 'colorful' Dowly.

Thomen · 06-20-10, 10:50 AM

I voted no.

As for reasoning:

I'd preferr to see at least some outline of gameplan before shelling out some money, and have some questions answered.

Especially stuff like:

Who will hold the rights after it was purchased with community money? Who is managing the money?
Can we expect a return for the investment?
Do we (the community and investors), have some say as to what is happening with the money and the code/rights?

Sailor Steve · 06-20-10, 11:56 AM

Good points, Thomen. I have imagined what I would do if I actually had several million dollars to spend, and buying the rights to the Silent Hunter name would not be among them.

I would instead hire my own team and start from scratch, developing all the things I thought should be there one at a time. But I would certainly throw a lot of money in that direction.

If I had any.

robbo180265 · 06-20-10, 01:38 PM

I voted no

Ask me again in a couple of years time , when SH5 has had enough time to be developed.

Bubblehead1980 · 06-20-10, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Went with 'No, I'm not interested' because this never gonna happen. Enough with these "give us SDK!", "Let's buy the code!", "Let's kidnap their family pets and ask [X] for ransom".

Take it like the dirty bitch you are for buying the game, on your knees with wang in your mouth. (Yes, I bought it, so I'm sucking too.. sigh...)

Fins have a great sense of humor

urfisch · 06-21-10, 02:32 AM

i definately miss more fantasy here...everbodys wining, but only some actually move.

in times of everybodys connection to the internet, a project like this would not be that unrealistic though. only, if ubi doesnt want to support such an idea, this would be the rip stone on the project. but money wasnt the main case...as with a passioned group of people and a nice concept, also "business angels" might be interested in supporting such an idea.

even it seems, only some can imagine, all things are possible! but maybe time hasnt come yet, where people/customers are ready for such "global" ideas, or got a lack of self-confidence.

Méo · 06-21-10, 03:24 AM

Interesting idea.

Of course when you talk about money, there always gonna have some dissent.

At least he's trying to be constructive.

He has something else to say than:

''I'm never gonna buy this game, this is the worst Silent hunter ever! (but I never played it)''. - kind of silliness

I salute your initiative Urfisch.

I didn't vote yet, but would need to know a lot more before making any donation.

BIGREG · 06-21-10, 03:48 AM

Meo !

Is a good game ! ( all rooms are in 3D , the crew as many possibility to annimated and more ) but UBI at not finish them

, i think the best to buy is a license for the granny editor ! with this the community can make news models and annimations

Sorry for my English

Gerald · 06-21-10, 04:45 PM

and play,but there are to many fail an no feeling,so I vote no.

Ducimus · 06-21-10, 05:15 PM

Quote:

I had an interesting thought this day. What about buying the open code from the sh-series with the power of community?

To get the code open, my guess is you'd have to buy the intellectual property from Ubisoft. That has to cost in the millions considering this is ubisoft were talking about. They won't let it go for cheap regardless if its a popular title or not. Your never going to raise enough money to buy the IP from ubisoft.

Navarre · 06-21-10, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

To get the code open, my guess is you'd have to buy the intellectual property from Ubisoft.

And the developer licence of Bink Video, Granny 3D and Quazal Technologies is needed, otherwise the code won't compile/link

TheBeast · 06-21-10, 07:52 PM

Since we are dreaming, here is my dream...

What would SH5 be like if it was a 24/7 MMORPG SIM in real time no TC. Each sub with up to 6 live players and the 6 players spread accross the globe so your boat is crewed 24/7. A World's Server Lobby (Forum) where you apply for active service. If your boat is sunk, you must reapply for active service and everyone on all servers knows you were sunk.
Each Sub with built in VOIP or at a minimum a built in chat that translates all text you receive to your native language.
Players waiting for a commision could work for the BdU or COMSUBPAC while going through training.
A AI smart enough to avoid detection, follow currently designated course and possibly even attack without human interaction in case someone is not available when the Sonarman finds a contact and it is a priority target.
A game that will PM you by email or text message your cell phone with status reports or call your beeper in emergency. Maybe you could even reply to the report issueing basic commands (Shadow Contact, Close on Contact, Evade Contact, etc.)
World Severs "LIMITED" to Historical Submarines entry into the War, fate yet undetermined as you are in command.
A game where MOD's must be approved and can only be actived via online connection.
A game where EVERYONE see your unique custom paint scheme and branding.
A game that cost little to buy, where profits come from Monthly Account Subscriptions.

Nisgeis · 06-22-10, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

He's using the wrong controller. Substituting the mouse and keyboard for a sniper rifle would make that game much more interesting.

View Poll Results: Would you be part of a COMMUNITY based addon?
Yes, i would invest up to 100 dollars or more	20	21.05%
Yes, i would invest up to 50 dollars	13	13.68%
Yes, i would invest upt to 25 dollars, or some manpower	15	15.79%
Yes, i would give my manpower	11	11.58%
No, im not interested at all	39	41.05%
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06-20-10, 09:55 AM	#1
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	[REQ] BUY the rights on SH5 on our own?! The whole concept is not, what we wanted to play. I never played this game longer than a few minutes. Too many mistakes and missing features. And i guess, many also sign to this more or less. The sparks do not strike. SO, what to do??? - I had an interesting thought this day. What about buying the open code from the sh-series with the power of community? How many people would give some money for that? Cause if we had the open source, we could develop the series as to our needs and sell the new created stuff as an addon, or sh6. There could be several scenarios possible, to get hand on the code. Maybe buy it in one piece, maybe just a share of it. In this case, ubisoft could benefit from the power of our skilled modders here and get a share from the sold copies of an community developed addon. The question is, how many people would take part in such an action? With money, or with manpower. __________________ Last edited by Onkel Neal; 06-20-10 at 07:48 PM.

06-20-10, 10:26 AM	#3
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	Lol, that was 'colorful' Dowly. __________________ *THE GENERAL*

06-20-10, 11:56 AM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Good points, Thomen. I have imagined what I would do if I actually had several million dollars to spend, and buying the rights to the Silent Hunter name would not be among them. I would instead hire my own team and start from scratch, developing all the things I thought should be there one at a time. But I would certainly throw a lot of money in that direction. If I had any. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-21-10, 02:32 AM	#8
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	i definately miss more fantasy here...everbodys wining, but only some actually move. in times of everybodys connection to the internet, a project like this would not be that unrealistic though. only, if ubi doesnt want to support such an idea, this would be the rip stone on the project. but money wasnt the main case...as with a passioned group of people and a nice concept, also "business angels" might be interested in supporting such an idea. even it seems, only some can imagine, all things are possible! but maybe time hasnt come yet, where people/customers are ready for such "global" ideas, or got a lack of self-confidence. __________________

06-20-10, 10:11 AM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Went with 'No, I'm not interested' because this never gonna happen. Enough with these "give us SDK!", "Let's buy the code!", "Let's kidnap their family pets and ask [X] for ransom". Take it like the dirty bitch you are for buying the game, on your knees with wang in your mouth. (Yes, I bought it, so I'm sucking too.. sigh...)

06-20-10, 10:50 AM	#4
Thomen Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,207 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I voted no. As for reasoning: I'd preferr to see at least some outline of gameplan before shelling out some money, and have some questions answered. Especially stuff like: Who will hold the rights after it was purchased with community money? Who is managing the money? Can we expect a return for the investment? Do we (the community and investors), have some say as to what is happening with the money and the code/rights?

06-20-10, 01:38 PM	#6
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	I voted no Ask me again in a couple of years time , when SH5 has had enough time to be developed.

06-21-10, 03:24 AM	#9
Méo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Quebec City Posts: 1,153 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	Interesting idea. Of course when you talk about money, there always gonna have some dissent. At least he's trying to be constructive. He has something else to say than: ''I'm never gonna buy this game, this is the worst Silent hunter ever! (but I never played it)''. - kind of silliness I salute your initiative Urfisch. I didn't vote yet, but would need to know a lot more before making any donation.

06-21-10, 03:48 AM	#10
BIGREG Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bretagne-FRANCE Posts: 813 Downloads: 155 Uploads: 0	Meo ! Is a good game ! ( all rooms are in 3D , the crew as many possibility to annimated and more ) but UBI at not finish them , i think the best to buy is a license for the granny editor ! with this the community can make news models and annimations Sorry for my English

06-21-10, 04:45 PM	#11
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Yes, I bought it... and play,but there are to many fail an no feeling,so I vote no. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

06-21-10, 07:52 PM	#14
TheBeast The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,533 Downloads: 886 Uploads: 23	Dream on! Since we are dreaming, here is my dream... What would SH5 be like if it was a 24/7 MMORPG SIM in real time no TC. Each sub with up to 6 live players and the 6 players spread accross the globe so your boat is crewed 24/7. A World's Server Lobby (Forum) where you apply for active service. If your boat is sunk, you must reapply for active service and everyone on all servers knows you were sunk. Each Sub with built in VOIP or at a minimum a built in chat that translates all text you receive to your native language. Players waiting for a commision could work for the BdU or COMSUBPAC while going through training. A AI smart enough to avoid detection, follow currently designated course and possibly even attack without human interaction in case someone is not available when the Sonarman finds a contact and it is a priority target. A game that will PM you by email or text message your cell phone with status reports or call your beeper in emergency. Maybe you could even reply to the report issueing basic commands (Shadow Contact, Close on Contact, Evade Contact, etc.) World Severs "LIMITED" to Historical Submarines entry into the War, fate yet undetermined as you are in command. A game where MOD's must be approved and can only be actived via online connection. A game where EVERYONE see your unique custom paint scheme and branding. A game that cost little to buy, where profits come from Monthly Account Subscriptions. __________________ Fear me! I am, TheBeastBelow SHIV-MediaFire \| SHV-MediaFire