Patch No. 2 not to be developed...no more Support? - Page 4

Safe-Keeper · 03-20-10, 05:56 PM

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The funny thing was that a lot of people never said "SH5 is a mess, devs please fix it", they jumped directly to "SH5 is a mess, get to work modders!".

Of course we did. Why wait for a patch when most of the complaints are tiny little things that it takes five minutes for us to fix ourselves?

Nordmann · 03-20-10, 05:57 PM

The problem is in the fact that modders are needed to bring the game up to the standard it should have been in the first place. Why should these people slave away, doing the developers' jobs, when they should instead be enjoying the game themselves?

Noren · 03-20-10, 06:03 PM

Yeah exactly. Its sad that we accept having several months long transition period where small, easily recognizable bugs are beeing fixed by modders. In the meantime, normal players shelf the game or play with inferior quality.

But this thread is about news about patches. Im more worried about the silence from ubisoft, dont they love us? We are their customers...

karamazovnew · 03-20-10, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Of course we did. Why wait for a patch when most of the complaints are tiny little things that it takes five minutes for us to fix ourselves?

I don't think you get the point... most people that bought the game had never heard about Subsim. The bugs in the game made a lot of people join this forum lately. There are a lot of people who don't use mods. The lack of info in the manual and the incomplete cammands and interface are not "tiny things', even though they were modded fast and painless. But the Save issues are humongous. Until they're fixed there's no reason to waste time on SH5 for any mod, regardless how simple it is and how good the modding tools are.

To use a car metaphor, it's like buying a car and when you see there's no steering wheel installed, you're told: "Well sir, we didn't have time to install a steering wheel. We suggest you go to MOMO.com and order a nice sport steering wheel. Most of our old customers were already doing that so we thought we left the wheel out and concentrate on the paint..."

Safe-Keeper · 03-20-10, 06:13 PM

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To use a car metaphor, it's like buying a car...

No. Not at all. A car is a car, a game is a game. I'm usually very open to metaphors, and I use them a lot myself, but sorry, but this just doesn't fly.

karamazovnew · 03-20-10, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

No. Not at all. A car is a car, a game is a game. I'm usually very open to metaphors, and I use them a lot myself, but sorry, but this just doesn't fly.

Oh come on... Steering wheel, compass? Momo.com, Subsim.com? No? Nothing?

Adriatico · 03-20-10, 06:21 PM

Come on... bugs and noncences must be systematically fixed in ione download called patch.
Moders should make a game different, from arcade to sim, but not to clear and wash the garbage.

Could you imagine 14 years old kid, non English speaking, searching mod by mod, to make it playable... and not claiming refund to shop or website.

piri_reis · 03-20-10, 06:29 PM

I just prefer to be patient.

This game will definitely get another patch or 2. They can't leave a very promising game in a buggy state. I'm guessing the sales would even pick up after the next patch and then with hopefully the sensible removal of OSP.

Considering all the new modding abilities, SH5 should be the best of the series in, well about 2 years..

Arclight · 03-20-10, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by karamazovnew

Oh come on... Steering wheel, compass? Momo.com, Subsim.com? No? Nothing?

You had me at "car metaphor".

Of course there will be patches, they have to patch it... right?

Safe-Keeper · 03-20-10, 06:34 PM

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Oh come on... Steering wheel, compass? Momo.com, Subsim.com? No? Nothing?

I didn't say I didn't get the metaphor, I said cars and games were completely different things.

A game is meant for entertainment, and the worst-case scenario is that you waste your money and don't have fun.
A car is a means of transport, and it's vital that it works correctly, because it's lethal if it doesn't.

I suppose a better comparison would be a dessert or a toy or something.

"A spoon? Ooh, knew there was something. Er, if you go across the street, there's a very nice restaurant there that has some really nice plastic spoons, so if you go there and ask them nicely..."

NefariousKoel · 03-20-10, 06:38 PM

I'd be very surprised if it didn't get at least one patch.

Preferably more, of course, including patching out that horrid DRM.

Arclight · 03-20-10, 06:59 PM

The least they can do, should they abandon it.

That launcher sure has no shortage on patches...

AVGWarhawk · 03-20-10, 07:00 PM

Patch? Yes! When? Not sure

Topo65 · 03-20-10, 07:14 PM

Shure "elanaiba" come to us with fresh news!

Cujo · 03-21-10, 10:26 AM

It seems to be selling well here in Toronto. On Friday Best Buy only had one left in the Toronto area. I drove an hour to get it, well worth the drive.

03-20-10, 05:57 PM	#47
Nordmann Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 628 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	The problem is in the fact that modders are needed to bring the game up to the standard it should have been in the first place. Why should these people slave away, doing the developers' jobs, when they should instead be enjoying the game themselves? __________________ "I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells

03-20-10, 06:21 PM	#52
Adriatico Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Periscope depth Posts: 860 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Come on... bugs and noncences must be systematically fixed in ione download called patch. Moders should make a game different, from arcade to sim, but not to clear and wash the garbage. Could you imagine 14 years old kid, non English speaking, searching mod by mod, to make it playable... and not claiming refund to shop or website. __________________

03-20-10, 06:29 PM	#53
piri_reis Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Istanbul, Turkiye Posts: 715 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	I just prefer to be patient. This game will definitely get another patch or 2. They can't leave a very promising game in a buggy state. I'm guessing the sales would even pick up after the next patch and then with hopefully the sensible removal of OSP. Considering all the new modding abilities, SH5 should be the best of the series in, well about 2 years.. __________________ Lt.z.S. Barbaros Hayreddin, U-35, 2nd Flot/Kiel, Type VIIB Oct.29.1939, 2nd Patrol Eastern English Waters Running SH5/TWOS

03-20-10, 06:38 PM	#56
NefariousKoel Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: No-good Missouri scum Posts: 1,223 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I'd be very surprised if it didn't get at least one patch. Preferably more, of course, including patching out that horrid DRM. __________________ "When Gary told me he had found Jesus, I thought, Yahoo! We're rich! But it turned out to be something different." - Jack Handey

03-20-10, 06:59 PM	#57
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	The least they can do, should they abandon it. That launcher sure has no shortage on patches... __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-20-10, 06:03 PM	#48
Noren 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 284 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Yeah exactly. Its sad that we accept having several months long transition period where small, easily recognizable bugs are beeing fixed by modders. In the meantime, normal players shelf the game or play with inferior quality. But this thread is about news about patches. Im more worried about the silence from ubisoft, dont they love us? We are their customers...

03-20-10, 07:00 PM	#58
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Patch? Yes! When? Not sure __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-20-10, 07:14 PM	#59
Topo65 Samurai Navy Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Atlántico Sur Posts: 558 Downloads: 401 Uploads: 0	Shure "elanaiba" come to us with fresh news! __________________ Cold Waters 1968 Campaign LINK a lista de Youtube My Blog: www.marenguerra.blogspot.com

03-21-10, 10:26 AM	#60
Cujo Watch Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Whitby, Ontario Posts: 21 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	It seems to be selling well here in Toronto. On Friday Best Buy only had one left in the Toronto area. I drove an hour to get it, well worth the drive.