EA to implement Ubi style DRM system

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by NefariousKoel

As a rabid anti-DRM poster, I'm fine with Matt saying what he thinks. Or anyone for that matter.

I also don't think anyone should be crying when confronted with a different opinion. Stating such a controversial stance with such.. clarity.. ,and demanding no debate in return, is just not how things happen.

I have no problem with a good debate, that is what makes a forum interesting. This place would be boring if everyone agreed with each other.

What I don't like is when posters start to use personal insults. My rule of thumb as always been that if you can't win an argument with insulting someone, you don't have a very good argument..

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Cavell

I'm not so sure I wouldn't attribute a lot of the brick-and-mortar inventory losses to digital distribution, though. I haven't bought a physical copy of a game in...oh, probably four years? Direct2Drive and Steam get all my business.

Call me old fashioned, but..

No Disc, no sale.

I like to OWN my games. I sometimes go back to them. Having them on disc makes them independant of my system, and not vulnerable to being accidently destroyed via a hard drive failure, accidental deletion, what have you.

Digital distribution sucks IMO. I'll take my disc any day of the week.

[Cavell]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Call me old fashioned, but..

No Disc, no sale.

I like to OWN my games. I sometimes go back to them. Having them on disc makes them independant of my system, and not vulnerable to being accidently destroyed via a hard drive failure, accidental deletion, what have you.

Digital distribution sucks IMO. I'll take my disc any day of the week.

That's kind of an odd statement to make, given that Direct2Drive offers unlimited downloads of any game you've ever purchased, as does Steam.

I've gone through three different systems, wiped my hard drives countless times, uninstalled them all, etc. They'll be there as long as IGN and Valve are in existence. Same probably couldn't be said of DVDs, which I have a tendency to lose/scratch/set on fire.

[Task Force]

Hmm... dosent really bother me... only EA title ive really liked in recent history was Crysis.

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Call me old fashioned, but..

No Disc, no sale.

ducimus, You are old fashioned.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Matt may be excessive in his choice of words, but I have seen many posts by anti-DRM zealots that used language just as inflammatory.

I agree. I don't worry about anti-DRM attacks, just anti-member attacks.

There seems to be a double standard here. Posters against DRM can post anything they want and get away with it. Posters with a contrary opinion get attacked personally. Is that the kind of forum we want?

My only complaint with MattDizzle is the same one as always - he calls people things like "pathetic" and then complains that he is attacked for just taking an opposite viewpoint. A lot of the anti-DRM people do go over the top with their comments, and do attack people, but most of them don't pretend to be "just expressing an opinion."

I don't care either way, as I consider everyone's opinion to be just that. On the other hand I've said these things to Mr. Dizzle before and he has yet to respond to any of my posts.

[Bilge_Rat]

Sailor Steve, I was not addressing my comments at you personally. I should have put my post in the "Rant" thread.


Have a nice weekend everyone, whether anti-, neutral-or pro-DRM and even the minority that actually plays SH5...

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by MattDizzle

ducimus, You are old fashioned.

Been gaming on PC's since 1986 baby!

This game set my career path in life from way back in 1992. Gimme a break man i'm only 24 PC gaming from way back trust me, however i dont fear the change to consoles. I dont need to drop 2 grand into a badass rig every 3 years and if it breaks, someone else has to deal with it.

Lazy youth? perhaps. But i trust steam to always let me have my game, and there is even a built in "Burn to disc" feature complete with PDF manuals. Why fear change? The next generation of consoles reportidly might not even have an optical drive of ANY kind, all games will be pulled from the internet onto an inbuilt hard drive. PC games will be the last bastion of hardcopy games.

[Nafod81]

Originally Posted by MattDizzle

This game set my career path in life from way back in 1992. Gimme a break man i'm only 24 PC gaming from way back trust me, however i dont fear the change to consoles. I dont need to drop 2 grand into a badass rig every 3 years and if it breaks, someone else has to deal with it.

Lazy youth? perhaps.

Oh the games of my child-hood. Aces of the Pacific, Aces Over Europe, Aces of the Deep, Master of Orion, Colonization, Pirates, Wing Commander.

Funny the only thing that remains are the submarines. I never purchased a flight sim after Dynamix's that I enjoyed, and haven't had a joystick since 1998.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Been gaming on PC's since 1986 baby!

Played Pong in a restaurant in 1974. Flight Sim and Silent Service mid-late '80s. That said, I'm not really a gamer but a history buff who likes the machinery.

[Skullcowboy]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Any other sources collaborate?

Only one source and April 1st is right around the corner.

http://forums.commandandconquer.com/...ist/35920.page

Funny thing is EA is claiming the game doesn't HAVE any DRM. At least UBI is upfront about their online SP requirement.

Originally Posted by Nafod81

I never purchased a flight sim after Dynamix's that I enjoyed, and haven't had a joystick since 1998.

Do yourself a favor and find a nice cheap set of pedals and stick secondhand and get "Il2 Sturmovic" on steam, the latest version with all the bells, whistles and expensions is something like $10-15 bucks on steam, and runs fine on older systems while looking f-ing amazing on high detail.

If you'll indulge the derail: (trailer for obligitory nazi superweapons expansion, includes everything from biplanes (FIAT 1939 biplane, that british biplane that singlehandedly saved malta) from the thirties to korean war jets (P-80 shooting star, Mig 15), all with superdetailed flight and damage models and full 3d cockpits) The level of detail is amazing, note that they have the Spitfire Vd (i think), with the sand filter for operations in north africa, the detail is really amazing.



(can someone tell me how to embed youtube videos?)

[Galanti]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That said, I'm not really a gamer but a history buff who likes the machinery.

So that's what I am! My buddy is always asking me why I haven't 'beat' SH4 yet. I suppose that's the answer. I always feel a bit dirty if I bring back more than 20,000 GRT from a patrol.

[Skullcowboy]

Originally Posted by MattDizzle

Do yourself a favor and find a nice cheap set of pedals and stick secondhand and get "Il2 Sturmovic" on steam, the latest version with all the bells, whistles and expensions is something like $10-15 bucks on steam, and runs fine on older systems while looking f-ing amazing on high detail.

If you'll indulge the derail: (trailer for obligitory nazi superweapons expansion, includes everything from biplanes (FIAT 1939 biplane, that british biplane that singlehandedly saved malta) from the thirties to korean war jets (P-80 shooting star, Mig 15), all with superdetailed flight and damage models and full 3d cockpits) The level of detail is amazing, note that they have the Spitfire Vd (i think), with the sand filter for operations in north africa, the detail is really amazing.



(can someone tell me how to embed youtube videos?)

Amazingly enough, something Matt and I agree on. But if you get the game (IL2 Sturmovik 1946 $9.99) and like it, beware. The cheap pedals and second hand stick might just evolve into a HOTAS system, TrackIR and some expensive pedals. Just ask my wife...