Come on you've got to be excited??

[Méo]

Originally Posted by rascal101

By purchasing the game and ignoring their concerns you are simply saying up-yours to them - so in honesty you cannot discuss SH5 with out disusing DRM

Best Regards
R

R

Ok so you're trying to make me feel culpable for buying it (another one )

And you argue that a substantial part of PC customers can afford a computer that currently runs SH5 and is in the impossibility to get a reasonable internet connection - and you expect me to believe this without any real evidence?

I will do this simply to rub it in the faces of people like you who are trying to bully and shame me into not buying it.

I really wish you would all quit with this attitude. Letum's right - you're pissing people off. Me included also.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by rascal101

By purchasing the game and ignoring their concerns you are simply saying up-yours to them

You know what? I'm really sick of people trying to get their point with 'blameworthiness'


Blameworthy for driving a gas car...

Blameworthy for eating meat..

Blameworthy for wasting food..

I'm certainly not gonna feel bad for playing a computer GAME

[jwilliams]

And you argue that a substantial part of PC customers can afford a computer that currently runs SH5 and is in the impossibility to get a reasonable internet connection - and you expect me to believe this without any real evidence?

lucky you!!!

Here in NZ... i could prob get away with the OSP.... but by no means is the internet fast or stable...

the plan im on is ADSL2 and is "as fast as your phoneline will allow"

i live in a city so its prob faster than most people in NZ.

my max download speed at (off peak times, early hour of the morning) is only 200 Kbps ( a fraction of what most people get). and around 100 Kbps at most times. it has dropped as low as 35 Kbps during peak usage.

there is no other alernative. this is the best i can get in NZ no matter how much i pay( unless i pay to get the county wired with fiber-optics)

So some people arnt as lucky as you.

[Greentimbers]

Originally Posted by Méo

You know what? I'm really sick of people trying to get their point with 'blameworthiness'


Blameworthy for driving a gas car...

Blameworthy for eating meat..

Blameworthy for wasting food..

I'm certainly not gonna feel bad for playing a computer GAME

+1

[Méo]

It already been said before by someone from Ubi that the amount of information sent is very low, and for a period of 10 hours of playing it would have sent something equivalent to 2 Mio.

You can ask Neal for the link of the interview (it was a phone interview with Neal)

and they (Ubi) already said that it could be possible to play with the lowest DSL, again you can ask Neal, he already said that.

[jwilliams]

yeah 50Kbps..... oh look... my speed sometimes drops to 35 Kbps..... mmmmmm guess im gonna get alot of lag at peak times. which is every evening and every weekend, which just heppens to be when i can play games. And lag = game pauses.

so yeah lucky you for having a fast connection..... i have no choice

im not saying you shouldnt buy the game.... im just correcting ur statement about "people can build pc but cant afford fast internet".

[Méo]

Originally Posted by jwilliams

my speed sometimes drops to 35 Kbps...

And there's really no other alternatives?

I don't know seems like 2 Mio in 10 hours is not a hassle?

I'm sorry for you, I guess you have never played GWX 3.0

[jwilliams]

Originally Posted by Méo

And there's really no other alternatives?

I don't know seems like 2 Mio in 10 hours is not a hassle?

I'm sorry for you, I guess you have never played GWX 3.0

No, no other alternatives.... all ISP use the same lines (one company owns the lines and rents them to other ISP's).

whats playing gwx gotta do with internet speed???

if ur refering to downloading the mod... i already downloaded it... i dont need to be online to play so my internet speed has nothing to do with playing gwx 3.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by jwilliams

whats playing gwx gotta do with internet speed???

if ur refering to downloading the mod... i already downloaded it... i dont need to be online to play so my internet speed has nothing to do with playing gwx 3.

I know you don't need to be online but it's a 1.33 GB

Originally Posted by jwilliams

lbut by no means is the internet fast or stable...

Originally Posted by jwilliams

my speed sometimes drops to 35 Kbps..

It must have taken you a whole year to download it.

[IanC]

Originally Posted by jwilliams

Btw anybody know why Japan and Korea get such ridiculously high speeds?

[jwilliams]

Originally Posted by Méo

I know you don't need to be online but it's a 1.33 GB





It must have taken you a whole year to download it.

yeah left if downloading overnight. about 8 hrs (using utorrent so if it disconnected i wouldnt have lost or had a corrupt file).

its not the size of the file... its what it need per sec thats the prob..... most of the time my speed is over 100 Kbps... but during peak usage it sometime drops to 35 Kbps and if OSP uses 50 Kbps then, sometime when my speed drops low then SH5 would pause..

Sure i could play SH5 (if ubi servers are stable) I'm not saying i can't. I may have the odd pause. I may even lose the last 2hrs of my patrol if OSP doesn't save if i lose connection. But some people have worse internet than me and for you to state "if you can afford to buy a PC, then you can afford better internet" just shows how little you know about internet in rural areas and other counties.

[Seafireliv]

Originally Posted by Méo

You know what? I'm really sick of people trying to get their point with 'blameworthiness'


Blameworthy for driving a gas car...

Blameworthy for eating meat..

Blameworthy for wasting food..

I'm certainly not gonna feel bad for playing a computer GAME

And no GAME is so important as to have such a drastic DRM.

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by IanC

Btw anybody know why Japan and Korea get such ridiculously high speeds?

In Japan they all live about two feet from their neighbour, so their cable runs are very short to the nearest street cabinet, as it's all really dense. Plus their cable is newer, due to lots of it being damaged through area bombing in WWII. They've also got much heavier government control on broadband quality. In Korea, online gaming is like a national sport, with Starcraft matches being televised with miliions of viewers. They're also a massive MMORPG market as well.

[FiL]

Originally Posted by rcjonessnp175

I understand thiers alot of debates about drm, but lets not talk about that in this thread lets talk about all the good things that are soon approaching. I dont know about you but being able to walk through the sub is going to be bad ass. Plus all the awesome creations from the modding community!!
This is by far one of my favorite series of games, my deployments overseas were and still are made better with alittle sub action in between ops and on those downtime days. I think we should stop all the rediculous amounts of negative posts when we dont even have the game yet, rest assured it will have its faults but the modding community here is by far the best ive ever seen with a game series.

Just my two cents been out of loop for a bit and was kind of surprised by all the threads in here, didnt seem like the old Subsim i remembered.

Happy sailing

Jonesy

Hello
Thanks for your greetings oh Happy Sailing.
I feel a little less excited than at the SHIII release which was a really good moment for many people here.
But I'm sure I'll run to see what SHV is like and probably I'll enjoy it.
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[IanC]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

In Japan they all live about two feet from their neighbour, so their cable runs are very short to the nearest street cabinet, as it's all really dense. Plus their cable is newer, due to lots of it being damaged through area bombing in WWII. They've also got much heavier government control on broadband quality. In Korea, online gaming is like a national sport, with Starcraft matches being televised with miliions of viewers. They're also a massive MMORPG market as well.

Thanks, that makes sense.