GWX is a yawner.

[Laufen zum Ziel]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Couldnt agree more.

He came into this forum and made a post... not asking for help... not seeking information as to why he had this experience with a mod... not to make a helpful or thought provoking comment.

Only to bash a damn good mod for no apparent reason other than he was mad because he didnt have a 100,000 ton patrol .

The weather in SH3 has sucked since release date, its a stock issue, not an issue with any mod least of all GWX and several people have tried to fix it, some more successfully than others.

with the weather fix that (may or may not have been a part of GWX i cannot recall) i have experienced a good mix of weather during patrols.

but basically what HMCS has done has come over to the SH3 forum, stuck his head in the door, and said "you suck"

that wouldnt be polite anywhere

[SeaWolf U-57]

This is what I was just about to post until the above post was made looks like Hitman knew what was coming.

I find this the most puzzling post in the whole thread. had the thread degraded in to a bad enough situation for a moderator to post this.
I'm not saying that it probably wont but at this time some good light-hearted and informative post are still being entered.
please let it run until the bad stuff starts.

[jakethescot]

Some people aren't cut out for boring things. Several years ago, I flew Red Baron 3D on-line in a WW1 arena. We flew three nights a week, and I always volunteered for CAP missions. CAP stands for Combat Air Patrol. I would patrol a bridge, or supply depot, or some such, for hours at a time with nothing but my joystick and rudder pedals to keep me company. Sometimes you would see an enemy bomber or recon coming in and would get some action, but for the most part you just flew in a circle for a while, reversed course and flew the other way for a while. And I didn't mind at all.

Coming in to SH3, I figured if it was anything like looking for planes in the air, only with ships in the water, it would be boring more often than not, but that's OK with me. I love this game.

[GREY WOLF 3]

Originally Posted by Hitman

*sigh*

Where to begin? (As moderator)

I guess, I'll keep it simple to prevent misunderstandings....

People usually tend to forget the essential benefit of living in a democracy, and it is sad so I must remind it:

DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T PLAY IT.

PERIOD. THAT'S SPELLED P-E-R-I-O-D

Now please let us go back to other, more important things. Like a patrol in that friggin' cold and stormy northa atlantic

DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T PLAY IT.
Well said

[GlobalExplorer]

Is this forum still full of discussion about who likes who or wants what? No wonder so many have headed off

And I don't mean the pointless OP, but that it entails two pages of discussion about nothing. And I am even posting in it.

[tomfon]

Originally Posted by Damo

I'd just like to say that my comment about the thread being deleted was wrong. Of course everybody should be allowed to express their opinion.

What I should have said was that the thread should be 'disregarded' as it was made by somebody who doesn't see beyond the surface and seems unwilling to try.

Thats a nice one.

P.S. Debates like this one usually involve the GWX supermod ; thats the basis of the dispute. I maybe mistaken (hope so) but i've never seen a similar discussion by those who play basically the NYGM or WAC supermod (though i've seen ''WAC supporters'' and ''GWX supporters'' fighting - thats an another case). I'm trying to understand why but i can't. Surely, i don't believe that GWX has ''sworn enemies'' or/and ''fanatic enthusiasts'' or sthg. This would mean that GWX has become a psychosis. If this was true then the phrase ''SH3, a very addictive game'' should make us worry. Since i don't like psychology i'll leave it for the end. Till then i'll keep wondering whats going on (?).

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by tomfon

P.S. Debates like this one usually involve the GWX supermod ; thats the basis of the dispute. I maybe mistaken (hope so) but i've never seen a similar discussion by those who play basically the NYGM or WAC supermod (though i've seen ''WAC supporters'' and ''GWX supporters'' fighting - thats an another case).

That's because you haven't been around long enough. Back in 2005 Beery put out the first supermod - Real U-Boat. People complained about the changes he'd made, sure, but they also complained about things he hadn't changed. Trust me, NYGM and WAC and even SH3 Commander have had their fair share of "**** ate my cat and ruined gaming for me!" GWX has just been the most used mod, so it's the one that garnered the most attention of late.

[SeaWolf U-57]

Originally Posted by tomfon

Thats a nice one.

P.S. Debates like this one usually involve the GWX supermod ; thats the basis of the dispute. I maybe mistaken (hope so) but i've never seen a similar discussion by those who play basically the NYGM or WAC supermod (though i've seen ''WAC supporters'' and ''GWX supporters'' fighting - thats an another case). I'm trying to understand why but i can't. Surely, i don't believe that GWX has ''sworn enemies'' or/and ''fanatic enthusiasts'' or sthg. This would mean that GWX has become a psychosis. If this was true then the phrase ''SH3, a very addictive game'' should make us worry. Since i don't like psychology i'll leave it for the end. Till then i'll keep wondering whats going on (?).

It seems that the phenomenon that is the silent hunter series evokes strong feelings about the method of game play used.
For what it is worth I think GWX is the most widely used mod and in being so has made it the most easily targeted Supermod.
Most who play SH3 love it to death and the makers of it defend it to the last against any criticism. and because of it there was not the great rush to change over from SH3 to SH4 as expected. I think this is what started the clashes between GWX and SH4 users.
There is no getting away from the fact there is a great divide between the users of the two Games and this will continue on even with the release of SH5 coming soon.
I guess it will then be SH4 against SH5 or if SH5 turns out to be a flop back to SH3 verses the rest.

[JScones]

Originally Posted by irish1958

MMMMMM, I recently heard of a little program that allows one to install a mod without harm to one's setup, and to uninstall it if necessary; amazingly, it returns one's install back to pristine conditions. You can get it here: http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/

Wow. Looks awesome. Perhaps the best application I've ever seen! And I hear the developer is quite a wonderful guy. Very handsome as well.

[Oneshot/Onekill]

My goodness, aren't we a busy bunch on this thread.

I did the same thing you did Jim. I read all the posts.

I don't have much to add here. I think you all have kicked this donkey to death enough for me. Keep up the fantastic work!

[tomfon]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That's because you haven't been around long enough. Back in 2005 Beery put out the first supermod - Real U-Boat. People complained about the changes he'd made, sure, but they also complained about things he hadn't changed. Trust me, NYGM and WAC and even SH3 Commander have had their fair share of "**** ate my cat and ruined gaming for me!" GWX has just been the most used mod, so it's the one that garnered the most attention of late.

Originally Posted by SeaWolf U-57

It seems that the phenomenon that is the silent hunter series evokes strong feelings about the method of game play used.
For what it is worth I think GWX is the most widely used mod and in being so has made it the most easily targeted Supermod.
Most who play SH3 love it to death and the makers of it defend it to the last against any criticism. and because of it there was not the great rush to change over from SH3 to SH4 as expected. I think this is what started the clashes between GWX and SH4 users.
There is no getting away from the fact there is a great divide between the users of the two Games and this will continue on even with the release of SH5 coming soon.
I guess it will then be SH4 against SH5 or if SH5 turns out to be a flop back to SH3 verses the rest.

Hmm. So GWX is the supermod used by the majority. Cool. If so (and i don't doubt that) it should take the least of all negative criticism (since almost everyone is happy with it) but its the opposite that happens.

Originally Posted by SeaWolf

Most who play SH3 love it to death and the makers of it defend it to the last against any criticism.

If this is true the psychosis scenario seems a little bit closer to me now.
Anyway.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by tomfon

Hmm. So GWX is the supermod used by the majority. Cool. If so (and i don't doubt that) it should take the least of all negative criticism (since almost everyone is happy with it) but its the opposite that happens.

The point I was trying to make is that newer users never try the stock game, so any problem that arises is blamed on the mod. The more the users, the more the complaints.

If this is true the psychosis scenario seems a little bit closer to me now.
Anyway.

I'm NOT crazy! I'm NOT! And if you say I am again, I'll hunt you down and...waitaminute...

[Gunnar]

Originally Posted by HMCS

Boring, boring dull dull dull.
I'm going back to the Pacific.

I have to say that the very fact that nothing might happen during a patrol keeps GWX very interesting.

It happened like that frequently in real life. A great example of this is given by Heinz Schaffer in his book "U-Boat 977" where he recounts the fact that a storm lasted for weeks and the terrible discomfort and tedium that such weather brings!

[msalama]

SH4... well... its a game.

SH4 with RFB & RSRDC is as much a sim as is GWX, i.e. they're both incredible. SH3 and SH4 in stock config are, OTOH, both just games.

Me? Playing SH4 & OM at the moment, which _again_ is an incredible subsim So the moral of the story, I guess, is that once you install a realism-oriented supermod you'll never go stock again...

[SeaWolf U-57]

Originally Posted by JScones

Wow. Looks awesome. Perhaps the best application I've ever seen! And I hear the developer is quite a wonderful guy. Very handsome as well.

Yes it is a good addition for sure definitely a must have.