US made telly shows are dying..

Dowly · 08-29-09, 04:02 PM

..well they should be, unfortunately they just seem to be more and more popular every year.

This is something I've been meaning to post ages ago, but havent really known how to say it (stil dont).

Righto, American shows. Sooo... when did they decide to **** it all up? For the past 4-5 years they've been degrading significally.

Example.

American Gladiator (and what's with the American in every darn name?! American Idol, American talent, yaadi yaa.) The 80's gladiator was awesome, the gladiators were competing, but they were nice to the competors, unlike now as they TRY to look and sound mean (prolly works on a 2yo kid). I mean, they are the american gladiators, so it's good to show how american you are by being a real wanker, right?

Right, so how about documentaries..

Why oh why, cant we have an neutral take on things. Be it anything, as long as it's american made, we get a glorified version of what really happened.

Example.

The North Hollywood shootout in 1997. I've seen propably 90% of the documentaries made out of it and what I hear in everyone of them? LAPD were true heroes. Umm.. excuse me, but werent they kinda outgunned for 45 minutes by 2 gunmen eventho there were over 300 cops trying to take them out? And in the end it took 3-5 SWAT guys to take out the other while the other shot himself.

Could someone please explain me, when and why the american telly took a nosedive to ****tiness?

Task Force · 08-29-09, 04:07 PM

yea, tv shows are starting to suck...

I barely watch tv anymore... other that maby the discovery channel...

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Why oh why, cant we have an neutral take on things. Be it anything, as long as it's american made, we get a glorified version of what really happened.

cause the America or die people would have a fit if they said anything other than americas great!!!...

*the music industry over here sucks also...*

Platapus · 08-29-09, 04:16 PM

TV production, like any product, has to respond to the desires of the customer.

Evidently, the public likes dumb "reality" crappy shows. It sells advertising.

That's why they call Television a Medium. Because it is rarely well done.

Sea Demon · 08-29-09, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Evidently, the public likes dumb "reality" crappy shows. It sells advertising.

Yes. So many stupid programs...I can't even watch modern TV shows anymore. And screw "reality" TV. When looking for sitcom type programming, the only thing I can stomach is going down memory lane like on TVLand. Some of those old episodes of Sanford and Son crack me up. The closest I can get to "modern" is some of the episodes of Seinfeld. That's it. Then it's Sports, Discovery, Sci-Fi, and a few others.

Torplexed · 08-30-09, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon

then it's Sports, Discovery, Sci-Fi, and a few others.

Aren't they the SyFy Channel now? Bizarre name change, but I guess it made sense from a business standpoint, since they so rarely show actual Sci-Fi anymore.

Task Force · 08-30-09, 10:38 AM

yep, they changed there name...

mookiemookie · 08-29-09, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

TV production, like any product, has to respond to the desires of the customer.

Evidently, the public likes dumb "reality" crappy shows. It sells advertising.

That's why they call Television a Medium. Because it is rarely well done.

Not to mention that reality shows are, by comparison, very cheap to make.

There's still great TV around - The Wire comes to mind. Planet Earth (well, that was BBC, but still), Mad Men...I'm also a sucker for House.

goldorak · 08-30-09, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

TV production, like any product, has to respond to the desires of the customer.

Evidently, the public likes dumb "reality" crappy shows. It sells advertising.

That's why they call Television a Medium. Because it is rarely well done.

Whats strange though is that tv programming in the seventies, eighties and early ninties was way way better than the crap we see today.
So were people just more intelligent a decade or 2 ago ?
On the other hand I appreciate public funded (through tv license) channels, such as the BBC, ARTE, RAI TRE etc...
The real change at least in Italy, was that during the eighties and ninties our tv stations bought american amd japanese (mostly anime) tv series like there would be no tomorrow.

Nowadays a lot of shows are locally produced so we tend to see less and less american shows. We even get to see BBC shows such as Life on Mars. I was nicely surprised by this. Now all I want is Dr Who and Torchwood.

Torplexed · 08-29-09, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

American Gladiator (and what's with the American in every darn name?! American Idol, American talent, yaadi yaa.)

Actually that tradition goes way back although it's getting done to death as of late. It's kinda like putting 'new and improved' on a product. Helps it sell better even if it's no better. If you type in 'American' at IMdb you get well over a thousand movie and TV titles.

http://www.imdb.com/find?q=American;more=tt;ttype=df

Task Force · 08-29-09, 04:20 PM

I once heard someone say that someday tv was going to be dominated by reality shows... they knew what they were saying....

Dowly · 08-29-09, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

Actually that tradition goes way back although it's getting done to death as of late. It's kinda like putting 'new and improved' on a product. Helps it sell better even if it's no better. If you type in 'American' at IMdb you get well over a thousand movie and TV titles.

http://www.imdb.com/find?q=American;more=tt;ttype=df

Yea, I know it's a bit of an tradition, but like you said, it's been overdone the past few years.

Torplexed · 08-29-09, 04:39 PM

Time for Finland to stop importing telly and start exporting. Well...maybe they already have.

Dowly · 08-29-09, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

Time for Finland to stop importing telly and start exporting. Well...maybe they already have.

Ow bollocks, they've gone silly aswell (tho, I kinda enjoyed the last season). What world needs is British telly shows, now those are good.

(and movies, some of the best horror movies are british, no BS CGI, but real horror stuff

)

Task Force · 08-29-09, 04:47 PM

yea, britian has some good tv shows... top gear being probably my favorite shows...

They beat any car show over here, by a long shot...

Task Force · 08-29-09, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Yea, I know it's a bit of an tradition, but like you said, it's been overdone the past few years.

I think its so the people over here know where it was made... so they watch it...

(well, those shows are also the only thing still partualy made in america... lol)

08-29-09, 04:02 PM	#1
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	US made telly shows are dying.. ..well they should be, unfortunately they just seem to be more and more popular every year. This is something I've been meaning to post ages ago, but havent really known how to say it (stil dont). Righto, American shows. Sooo... when did they decide to ** it all up? For the past 4-5 years they've been degrading significally. Example. American Gladiator (and what's with the American in every darn name?! American Idol, American talent, yaadi yaa.) The 80's gladiator was awesome, the gladiators were competing, but they were nice to the competors, unlike now as they TRY to look and sound mean (prolly works on a 2yo kid). I mean, they are the american gladiators, so it's good to show how american you are by being a real wanker, right? Right, so how about documentaries.. Why oh why, cant we have an neutral take on things. Be it anything, as long as it's american made, we get a glorified version of what really happened. Example. The North Hollywood shootout in 1997. I've seen propably 90% of the documentaries made out of it and what I hear in everyone of them? LAPD were true heroes. Umm.. excuse me, but werent they kinda outgunned for 45 minutes by 2 gunmen eventho there were over 300 cops trying to take them out? And in the end it took 3-5 SWAT guys to take out the other while the other shot himself. Could someone please explain me, when and why the american telly took a nosedive to **tiness?

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,379 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	TV production, like any product, has to respond to the desires of the customer. Evidently, the public likes dumb "reality" crappy shows. It sells advertising. That's why they call Television a Medium. Because it is rarely well done. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I once heard someone say that someday tv was going to be dominated by reality shows... they knew what they were saying.... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

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Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	yea, britian has some good tv shows... top gear being probably my favorite shows... They beat any car show over here, by a long shot... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

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Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Time for Finland to stop importing telly and start exporting. Well...maybe they already have.