An M1A2 can hit over 70 MPH if you remove the govener?

SUBMAN1 · 08-25-09, 10:09 PM

Wow! Just watched that on TV. Some things I didn't know about the M1, that is for sure.

The Leopard II though - best tank in the world as far as best bang for the buck goes. The M1A2 is the Rolls Royce however. One on one, Leopard II is dead, but at what price tag? Is it really worth that much more for a marginal performance improvement? I'd have to say yes since I believe our troops should have the best there is, bar none.

-S

Sledgehammer427 · 08-25-09, 10:24 PM

I am all for the leopard 2, the Germans know their tanking, and my uncle who served in the gulf war told me a story about how his Humvee was doing about 55 mph and to his suprise an M1 went screaming by. granted, those gas-turbine engines are a hoot, but it seriously reduces the M1's range.
which is why I would prefer the leopards diesel engine.

now there's going to be a big long argument about which tank is better hehe

Task Force · 08-25-09, 10:42 PM

I perfer the tiger panzer... but... thats alittle outdated...:rotfl:

bookworm_020 · 08-25-09, 11:14 PM

Australia bought the M1's instead of the leopard 2. I still think we should have gone for the leopard 2

August · 08-25-09, 11:42 PM

I once drove an M113 APC over 50mph on cobblestones. It was a puckering experience.

Melonfish · 08-26-09, 10:08 AM

you guys are just missing the challenger II! what a tank! i mean can you name any other tank with a built in water heater?
pete

SteamWake · 08-26-09, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by August

I once drove an M113 APC over 50mph on cobblestones. It was a puckering experience.

Thats what I was thinking a ride in that thing at 70mph would be like being stuck in a clothes dryer.

Platapus · 08-29-09, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by August

I once drove an M113 APC over 50mph on cobblestones. It was a puckering experience.

Can I ask how you measured the speed? That seems a bit fast.

http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/m113.html#M113A1

Top road speed is listed at 40 and I never was able to get a 113 above that.

The speedometers on our 113's were off a lot due to the vibrations and abuse and I don't think we ever used them in convoy. We just had pacer vehicles and intervals.

Falkirion · 08-26-09, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Australia bought the M1's instead of the leopard 2. I still think we should have gone for the leopard 2

Couldn't agree with you more Book.

SUBMAN1 · 08-26-09, 09:48 PM

You guys are forgetting - the M1 has 505 Gallons of fuel on board. Yes, takes a lot to fill up, but what other tank can you run up into the local civi's garage, find some paint thinner, some vodka, and it can run on it?

That is what it is designed to do - run on anything decently flammable.

Stick that in your Leopard! Gonna cause you much headache!

Aussies made a wise, but expensive purchase. Of course, the extra 18 tons of weight will do wonders for your black top! I guess if you are on a budget, a Leopard will fit the bill.

-S

08-25-09, 10:09 PM	#1
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	An M1A2 can hit over 70 MPH if you remove the govener? Wow! Just watched that on TV. Some things I didn't know about the M1, that is for sure. The Leopard II though - best tank in the world as far as best bang for the buck goes. The M1A2 is the Rolls Royce however. One on one, Leopard II is dead, but at what price tag? Is it really worth that much more for a marginal performance improvement? I'd have to say yes since I believe our troops should have the best there is, bar none. -S __________________

08-25-09, 10:24 PM	#2
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	I am all for the leopard 2, the Germans know their tanking, and my uncle who served in the gulf war told me a story about how his Humvee was doing about 55 mph and to his suprise an M1 went screaming by. granted, those gas-turbine engines are a hoot, but it seriously reduces the M1's range. which is why I would prefer the leopards diesel engine. now there's going to be a big long argument about which tank is better hehe __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

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bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Australia bought the M1's instead of the leopard 2. I still think we should have gone for the leopard 2 __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,199 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I once drove an M113 APC over 50mph on cobblestones. It was a puckering experience. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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Melonfish XO Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Warrington, UK Posts: 417 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	you guys are just missing the challenger II! what a tank! i mean can you name any other tank with a built in water heater? pete

08-26-09, 09:48 PM	#10
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You guys are forgetting - the M1 has 505 Gallons of fuel on board. Yes, takes a lot to fill up, but what other tank can you run up into the local civi's garage, find some paint thinner, some vodka, and it can run on it? That is what it is designed to do - run on anything decently flammable. Stick that in your Leopard! Gonna cause you much headache! Aussies made a wise, but expensive purchase. Of course, the extra 18 tons of weight will do wonders for your black top! I guess if you are on a budget, a Leopard will fit the bill. -S __________________