Have people changed their attitude to cars? - Page 4

Stealhead · 07-16-09, 05:17 PM

My favorite modern supercar...[/quote]

I understand that you also get a pair on fine Italian dress shoes that match the interior if you are a man a woman buyer gets some high hand bag that matches the interior.

At Max2147 Top Gear is a nice show and I have seen the Toyo deal that you mention but I think you might be watching a little too much of it I bet you think you are The Stig so what do you do if you are in front wheel drive car and your realize that you are coming into a turn too fast Stiggy?

Castle how long ago was that ticket? I got popped for going 53 in a 45 and it cost me $113.00 this was just last month though i bet they also threw mine away as at the court house one full week after getting pulled the clerk said they had not put the ticket in the system which is fine by me I was speeding but I am a fairly good driver have 0 accidents and only one ticket prior to this one so I personaly dont think I should have to pay higher insurance just for one ticket.not mention the only reason that i was going that fast was to get around a poorly driver semi in front and antoher behind me that was too close speeding to get around them was the safest option at that moment of course cops never pull over semis even though the semi in front of me failed to maintain his lane for two blocks while the cop was directly behind me and had yet to do the lights but I suppose a sedan going too fast in more dangerous than a 40,000 ton semi that cant stay in one lane.

Task Force · 07-16-09, 05:19 PM

Max2147 is the stig.

wait... which one... theres like 4 or 5 stigs includeing the origional one...
edit... well there was
lorry driver stig
fat stig
black stig
stig

so theres 4 stigs...

Stealhead · 07-16-09, 05:30 PM

Maybe I am the Stig I was going to wait for the cop to come up then speed away but my daughter was with me and I was not wearing the suit.

AVGWarhawk · 07-16-09, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

Although I am very happy with my Prius, I am also interested in the next generation of technology.

Still waiting for the diesel-electric series powertrain. Peugeot was going to put on in their new 308 but you can't get them here in the states.

The Aptera looks cool but it is only sold in California and it would not be very good in the snow, but it does look cool.

Diesel electric. Interesting. Peugeot is look into this? I have seriously consider a diesel. I think Mercedes and VW have mastered the diesels for automobiles. A VW diese could very definitly be on the list of cars to look at.

Task Force · 07-16-09, 05:44 PM

hmm... maby it was one of the top gear guys...

rubenandthejets · 07-16-09, 10:51 PM

I get by on late Pliocene technology-AKA two feet and a heartbeat.

I live close to where I work, with most shops for daily eseentials on the way. If I have to go more than 4-5 km, I usually catch a train (lucky I live in a country where trains are cheap, fast, punctual, clean and safe).

When I was a youngster I put up with 2 hour each way commutes, and vowed to always live within walking dsitance of work after that.

07-17-09, 12:13 AM

Proud hater of all cars.

HunterICX · 07-17-09, 03:32 AM

Personally don't care much about Cars.
so I'm pretty much happy with what I drive currently.
which is my father's Volkswagen Passat Sationwagon from '90

HunterICX

AVGWarhawk · 07-17-09, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubenandthejets

I get by on late Pliocene technology-AKA two feet and a heartbeat.

I live close to where I work, with most shops for daily eseentials on the way. If I have to go more than 4-5 km, I usually catch a train (lucky I live in a country where trains are cheap, fast, punctual, clean and safe).

When I was a youngster I put up with 2 hour each way commutes, and vowed to always live within walking dsitance of work after that.

That is the thing. The automobile empowered folks to be away from other forms of transportation, ie trains. Communities sprung up outside of the cities as a result of automobiles. This generated growth in the economy, ie housing starts/sales. New stores in these communities. More jobs. The automobile was once hailed as the worlds greatest invention. Was an integral part of overall growth and urban sprawl. Now the automobile is looked upon as nothing more than a planet killer.

Kapt Z · 07-17-09, 08:37 AM

I was torn between -

A more efficient car.

and

I'm happy with what I have.

I really like my 09 Subaru Forester. It is just big enough for our needs, handles good in bad weather, tops in safety and I actually get over 30mpg on the highway.

If it was a hybrid I'd be golden.

That being said, if I had the garage space and the $$ I'd have a Bullitt Mustang just for fun days/nights.

JHuschke · 07-17-09, 07:32 PM

Trucks are better, F-250 ftw!

Task Force · 07-17-09, 08:48 PM

yea, you got a point... Truck are nice...

cant haul stuff in a car. lol

Letum · 07-17-09, 08:58 PM

Motorbikes are the way to go.
How else can you get from 0-60 in less than 3 seconds for under £1000?

Task Force · 07-17-09, 09:04 PM

airline ticket...

Letum · 07-17-09, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force

airline ticket...

Are you kidding?
The majority of fighter jets can't accelerate from a stand that fast.

Air provides great speed, but poor torque.
You need a thrust to weight ratio significantly above 1:1 to accelerate
faster than 0-60 in 3 seconds. Modern jets rarely achieve more than 1.1:1.

The F-15 is one of the faster to accelerate and manages ~1:1 with a
normal load, but can get up to 1.6(!) with no weapons, almost no fuel
and abusive use of the afterburners.

That gives it a theoretical 0-60 time of just over 3 seconds under normal
load and just under 2 seconds stripped down assuming it can give
100% of it's rated thrust instantly from a standstill. That doesn't account
for any drag from the wheels or air as well.

Given the time for the engine to go from idle to full thrust, drag and
human reaction times....my bike is still in with a chance.

You might be rich enough to buy airline tickets to space, but even then,
a motorbike is in with a chance of out-accelerating you. A fully loaded
space shuttle has a thrust to weight ration of 1.5:1 (Less that the
stripped down F15!). The theoretical acceleration time is longer.

The shuttle has achieved 3g on takeoff. That's 1g of gravity and 2g of
acceleration. That doesn't match the thrust/weight ratio on a full load,
so I guess the shuttle can manage a thrust/weight ratio of 2:1 with a
lighter load. That seams a little optimistic to me, but I will run with that
number...

2:1 gives a 0-60 time of 1.3 seconds. (plus the time to get to full thrust,
plus drag etc).

That's faster than any road bike, but quite a bit slower than some drag
racing bikes.

View Poll Results: Whould you change your car to
A smaller car	1	2.44%
A more efficient car	13	31.71%
I'm happy with what I've got	18	43.90%
Supersize me!!!	9	21.95%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

07-16-09, 05:17 PM	#46
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	My favorite modern supercar...[/quote] I understand that you also get a pair on fine Italian dress shoes that match the interior if you are a man a woman buyer gets some high hand bag that matches the interior. At Max2147 Top Gear is a nice show and I have seen the Toyo deal that you mention but I think you might be watching a little too much of it I bet you think you are The Stig so what do you do if you are in front wheel drive car and your realize that you are coming into a turn too fast Stiggy? Castle how long ago was that ticket? I got popped for going 53 in a 45 and it cost me $113.00 this was just last month though i bet they also threw mine away as at the court house one full week after getting pulled the clerk said they had not put the ticket in the system which is fine by me I was speeding but I am a fairly good driver have 0 accidents and only one ticket prior to this one so I personaly dont think I should have to pay higher insurance just for one ticket.not mention the only reason that i was going that fast was to get around a poorly driver semi in front and antoher behind me that was too close speeding to get around them was the safest option at that moment of course cops never pull over semis even though the semi in front of me failed to maintain his lane for two blocks while the cop was directly behind me and had yet to do the lights but I suppose a sedan going too fast in more dangerous than a 40,000 ton semi that cant stay in one lane. Last edited by Stealhead; 07-16-09 at 05:27 PM.

07-16-09, 05:19 PM	#47
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Max2147 is the stig. wait... which one... theres like 4 or 5 stigs includeing the origional one... edit... well there was lorry driver stig fat stig black stig stig so theres 4 stigs... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time" Last edited by Task Force; 07-16-09 at 05:41 PM.

07-16-09, 05:44 PM	#50
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	hmm... maby it was one of the top gear guys... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

07-16-09, 10:51 PM	#51
rubenandthejets 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 279 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I get by on late Pliocene technology-AKA two feet and a heartbeat. I live close to where I work, with most shops for daily eseentials on the way. If I have to go more than 4-5 km, I usually catch a train (lucky I live in a country where trains are cheap, fast, punctual, clean and safe). When I was a youngster I put up with 2 hour each way commutes, and vowed to always live within walking dsitance of work after that. __________________ HMAS Sydney III "Thorough and Ready"

07-16-09, 05:30 PM	#48
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Maybe I am the Stig I was going to wait for the cop to come up then speed away but my daughter was with me and I was not wearing the suit.

07-17-09, 12:13 AM	#52
Rilder Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Proud hater of all cars.

07-17-09, 03:32 AM	#53
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Personally don't care much about Cars. so I'm pretty much happy with what I drive currently. which is my father's Volkswagen Passat Sationwagon from '90 HunterICX __________________

07-17-09, 08:37 AM	#55
Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 909 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	I was torn between - A more efficient car. and I'm happy with what I have. I really like my 09 Subaru Forester. It is just big enough for our needs, handles good in bad weather, tops in safety and I actually get over 30mpg on the highway. If it was a hybrid I'd be golden. That being said, if I had the garage space and the $$ I'd have a Bullitt Mustang just for fun days/nights.

07-17-09, 07:32 PM	#56
JHuschke XO Join Date: May 2008 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 432 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Trucks are better, F-250 ftw!

07-17-09, 08:48 PM	#57
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	yea, you got a point... Truck are nice... cant haul stuff in a car. lol __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

07-17-09, 08:58 PM	#58
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Motorbikes are the way to go. How else can you get from 0-60 in less than 3 seconds for under £1000? __________________

07-17-09, 09:04 PM	#59
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	airline ticket... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"