Letter to president

clayp · 04-20-09, 11:58 PM

Subject: FW: Letter to our President

April 17, 2009
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington , DC 20500

Mr. Obama:
I have had it with you and your administration, sir. Your conduct on your recent trip overseas has convinced me that you are not an adequate representative of the United States of America collectively or of me personally.

You are so obsessed with appeasing the Europeans and the Muslim world that you have abdicated the responsibilities of the President of the United States of America.
You are responsible to the citizens of the United States.
You are not responsible to the peoples of any other country on earth.

I personally resent that you go around the world apologizing for the United States telling Europeans that we are arrogant and do not care about their status in the world. Sir, what do you think the First World War and the Second World War were all about if not the consideration of the peoples of Europe? Are you brain dead?� What do you think the Marshall Plan was all about? Do you not understand or know the history of the 20th century?

Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does not consider itself a Christian country? Have you not read the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the United States?

This country was founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and the principles governing this country, at least until you came along, come directly from this heritage.� Do you not understand this?

Your bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia is an affront to all Americans. Our President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi Arabia. You dont show Great Britain, our best and one of our oldest allies, the respect they deserve yet you bow down to the king of Saudi Arabia.
How dare you, sir!
How dare you!

You can’t find the time to visit the graves of our greatest generation because you don't want to offend the Germans but make time to visit a mosque in Turkey. You offended our dead and every veteran when you give the Germans more respect than the people who saved the German people from themselves.�
Whats the matter with you?

I am convinced that you and the members of your administration have the historical and intellectual depth of a mud puddle and should be ashamed of yourselves, all of you.

You are so self-righteously offended by the big bankers and the American automobile manufacturers yet do nothing about the real thieves in this situation, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelic, the Fannie Mae bonuses, and the Freddie Mac bonuses.
What do you intend to do about them? Anything? I seriously doubt it.

What about the U.S. House members passing out $9.1 million in bonuses to their staff members, on top of the $2.5 million in automatic pay raises that lawmakers gave themselves ?
I understand the average House aide got a 17% bonus.
I took a 5% cut in my pay to save jobs with my employer.
You haven't said anything about that.
Who authorized that? I surely didn't !

Executives at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be receiving $210 million in bonuses over an eighteen-month period, that's $45 million more than the AIG bonuses. In fact, Fannie and Freddie executives have already been awarded $51 million, not a bad take. Who authorized that and why haven't you expressed your outrage at this group who are largely responsible for the economic mess we have right now.

I resent that you take me and my fellow citizens as brain-dead and not caring about what you idiots do. We are watching what you are doing and we are getting increasingly fed up with all of you. I also want you to know that I personally find just about everything you do and say to be offensive to every one of my sensibilities.
I promise you that I will work tirelessly to see that you do not get a chance to spend two terms destroying my beautiful country.
Sincerely,
Every real American

Max2147 · 04-21-09, 12:08 AM

Does that make me a Fake American?

04-21-09, 01:16 AM

You are responsible to the citizens of the United States.
You are not responsible to the peoples of any other country on earth.

And yes and no. United states as the leader of nations will never look only what is under her legs. It is natural. Of course he is responsible most of his part in duty for citizens of the US. However this should not mean he has to quarantine himself out of entire world. International politics is not less important than inner..

Frame57 · 04-21-09, 01:38 AM

Yes! This is what we get when it is anybody but Bush!

Morts · 04-21-09, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clayp

Sincerely,
Every real American

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:what a load of c***

Tchocky · 04-21-09, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does not consider itself a Christian country? Have you not read the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the United States?

Might be a start, aye.

HunterICX · 04-21-09, 03:28 AM

Ow boy, somebody didnt set his Spamfilter right...

HunterICX

Linton · 04-21-09, 03:33 AM

Counting down to thread closure.....ten...nine...eight....

Konovalov · 04-21-09, 03:45 AM

I share the sentiments of those above (Linton, Hunter,Morts, Tchock). Same old boring claptrap here.

Quite frankly when you start with the subject heading "Letter to a**hole" then it is obvious that the thread serves little purpose except to start a flame war.

Skybird · 04-21-09, 04:47 AM

Thread title is unacceptable.

The rest is malicous polemics.

AngusJS · 04-21-09, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clayp

Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does not consider itself a Christian country? Have you not read the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the United States?

Have you ever bothered to read the Constitution? There's not one mention of god, providence, a creator...nada. The DoI does mention it, but our government isn't founded on the DoI, it's founded on the Constitution.

Platapus · 04-21-09, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngusJS

Have you ever bothered to read the Constitution? There's not one mention of god, providence, a creator...nada. The DoI does mention it, but our government isn't founded on the DoI, it's founded on the Constitution.

Very true. Especially Article 6 of the Constitution addresses this.

Lets consult another official document. Would you agree that a document signed by the President of the United States and Ratified by the United States Senate is official? That's about as official as a document can be.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796t.asp

The Treaty of Tripoli. Ratified by the US Senate on 7 Jun 1797 and signed by President John Adams on 10 Jun 1797. Specifically let's look at Article 11 of that treaty (corrected for the spelling of the time)

Quote:

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

This coming from the President (one of the Founding Fathers) and the Senate seems to make its point clear.

Just some history some may not be aware of.

Tchocky · 04-21-09, 06:36 AM

Ah, I knew there was a treaty statement about this somewhere. Thanks, Platapus.

04-21-09, 06:44 AM

Curious. And there I thought Obama was finally a US president with a sound reality check of how the world works and that selfhailing and idealizing the US while smashing porcellaine all over the planet has finally been realized as one of the major reasons the US finds itself in such an alien situation in regards to the rest of the world today and that Obama acts accordingly. That an apology is not a sign of weakness, but of confidence, respected whereever the headlines of his actions have been read, outside the US. That it's now Iran and other countries trying to gain advantage of the situation, thus giving the US a lot of credit it lacked over the last 10 years in beeing percieved as morally superiour. And that the US finally realizes that boycotting countries like Cuba isn't exactly doing anything for the US in the future, but quite to the contrary.

But, quite obviously, some folks never bothered to haul themselves into the 21th century.

Must be the US own propaganda of beeing the best nation on earth for half a decade at least now making some people beeing such spoiled brats in regards to international politics nowadays.

Marinesko · 04-21-09, 07:04 AM

Platapus beat me to the Treaty of Tripoli, DAMN! (No dishonor being upstaged by a platypus though, one of nature's greatest killers).

I found the "signature" rather funny though- "every real American". Seems like 7 million more Americans voted for Obama, and he obviously had more supporters since there we're talking about registered voters(or people that actually bothered to vote). So maybe folks like that ought to question how they became the "real Americans" somehow. And while I'm pretty skeptical about Obama, I think it should take a little more than three months to get fed up with his administration.

Bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia? Please don't tell that guy about the Bush family business. And visiting a Mosque in TURKEY?!!! HOLY CRAP!!!! WHO WOULD VISIT A MOSQUE IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY, PARTICULARLY ONE THAT IS KNOWN TO HAVE SOME RATHER IMPORTANT HISTORICAL MOSQUES?! TRAITOR!!!!!

04-20-09, 11:58 PM	#1
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,554 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	Letter to president Subject: FW: Letter to our President April 17, 2009 The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington , DC 20500 Mr. Obama: I have had it with you and your administration, sir. Your conduct on your recent trip overseas has convinced me that you are not an adequate representative of the United States of America collectively or of me personally. You are so obsessed with appeasing the Europeans and the Muslim world that you have abdicated the responsibilities of the President of the United States of America. You are responsible to the citizens of the United States. You are not responsible to the peoples of any other country on earth. I personally resent that you go around the world apologizing for the United States telling Europeans that we are arrogant and do not care about their status in the world. Sir, what do you think the First World War and the Second World War were all about if not the consideration of the peoples of Europe? Are you brain dead?� What do you think the Marshall Plan was all about? Do you not understand or know the history of the 20th century? Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does not consider itself a Christian country? Have you not read the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the United States? This country was founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and the principles governing this country, at least until you came along, come directly from this heritage.� Do you not understand this? Your bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia is an affront to all Americans. Our President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi Arabia. You dont show Great Britain, our best and one of our oldest allies, the respect they deserve yet you bow down to the king of Saudi Arabia. How dare you, sir! How dare you! You can’t find the time to visit the graves of our greatest generation because you don't want to offend the Germans but make time to visit a mosque in Turkey. You offended our dead and every veteran when you give the Germans more respect than the people who saved the German people from themselves.� Whats the matter with you? I am convinced that you and the members of your administration have the historical and intellectual depth of a mud puddle and should be ashamed of yourselves, all of you. You are so self-righteously offended by the big bankers and the American automobile manufacturers yet do nothing about the real thieves in this situation, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelic, the Fannie Mae bonuses, and the Freddie Mac bonuses. What do you intend to do about them? Anything? I seriously doubt it. What about the U.S. House members passing out $9.1 million in bonuses to their staff members, on top of the $2.5 million in automatic pay raises that lawmakers gave themselves ? I understand the average House aide got a 17% bonus. I took a 5% cut in my pay to save jobs with my employer. You haven't said anything about that. Who authorized that? I surely didn't ! Executives at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be receiving $210 million in bonuses over an eighteen-month period, that's $45 million more than the AIG bonuses. In fact, Fannie and Freddie executives have already been awarded $51 million, not a bad take. Who authorized that and why haven't you expressed your outrage at this group who are largely responsible for the economic mess we have right now. I resent that you take me and my fellow citizens as brain-dead and not caring about what you idiots do. We are watching what you are doing and we are getting increasingly fed up with all of you. I also want you to know that I personally find just about everything you do and say to be offensive to every one of my sensibilities. I promise you that I will work tirelessly to see that you do not get a chance to spend two terms destroying my beautiful country. Sincerely, Every real American __________________ clayp

04-21-09, 01:38 AM	#4
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yes! This is what we get when it is anybody but Bush! __________________ "My Religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds." Albert Einstein

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04-21-09, 03:45 AM	#9
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I share the sentiments of those above (Linton, Hunter,Morts, Tchock). Same old boring claptrap here. Quite frankly when you start with the subject heading "Letter to a**hole" then it is obvious that the thread serves little purpose except to start a flame war. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

04-21-09, 12:08 AM	#2
Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Does that make me a Fake American?

04-21-09, 01:16 AM	#3
Contact Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	You are responsible to the citizens of the United States. You are not responsible to the peoples of any other country on earth. And yes and no. United states as the leader of nations will never look only what is under her legs. It is natural. Of course he is responsible most of his part in duty for citizens of the US. However this should not mean he has to quarantine himself out of entire world. International politics is not less important than inner..

04-21-09, 04:47 AM	#10
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,647 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Thread title is unacceptable. The rest is malicous polemics. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-21-09, 06:36 AM	#13
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Ah, I knew there was a treaty statement about this somewhere. Thanks, Platapus. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

04-21-09, 06:44 AM	#14
Bewolf Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Curious. And there I thought Obama was finally a US president with a sound reality check of how the world works and that selfhailing and idealizing the US while smashing porcellaine all over the planet has finally been realized as one of the major reasons the US finds itself in such an alien situation in regards to the rest of the world today and that Obama acts accordingly. That an apology is not a sign of weakness, but of confidence, respected whereever the headlines of his actions have been read, outside the US. That it's now Iran and other countries trying to gain advantage of the situation, thus giving the US a lot of credit it lacked over the last 10 years in beeing percieved as morally superiour. And that the US finally realizes that boycotting countries like Cuba isn't exactly doing anything for the US in the future, but quite to the contrary. But, quite obviously, some folks never bothered to haul themselves into the 21th century. Must be the US own propaganda of beeing the best nation on earth for half a decade at least now making some people beeing such spoiled brats in regards to international politics nowadays.

04-21-09, 07:04 AM	#15
Marinesko Seaman Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Moscow Posts: 32 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Platapus beat me to the Treaty of Tripoli, DAMN! (No dishonor being upstaged by a platypus though, one of nature's greatest killers). I found the "signature" rather funny though- "every real American". Seems like 7 million more Americans voted for Obama, and he obviously had more supporters since there we're talking about registered voters(or people that actually bothered to vote). So maybe folks like that ought to question how they became the "real Americans" somehow. And while I'm pretty skeptical about Obama, I think it should take a little more than three months to get fed up with his administration. Bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia? Please don't tell that guy about the Bush family business. And visiting a Mosque in TURKEY?!!! HOLY CRAP!!!! WHO WOULD VISIT A MOSQUE IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY, PARTICULARLY ONE THAT IS KNOWN TO HAVE SOME RATHER IMPORTANT HISTORICAL MOSQUES?! TRAITOR!!!!!