British Troops recieve a warm reception

[Kapitan_Phillips]

There is no need to insult someone who has a conflicting opinion, Tribesman.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Well boohoo for you .
If you want to let a property you are running a business , if you are running a business then you follow the laws . If you don't want to follow the laws then you are free to choose not to run that business .
Oh how Skybird wishes he was back to the good old days when you could get on the boat , go across the water and enjoy the signs on rental propety that said no dogs no blacks no Irish , because discrimination is just sooooo good ...if you are a small minded bigot.

EDIT: That kind of image can get you brig time.

[Schroeder]

@Tribesman

So you would like it that some parliament all of a sudden decides with whom you have to do business? Do you call that liberty and freedom? I choose my business PARTNERS myself. Because there has to be a basis of trust to do business. If that trust is not there I don't do business with that person/company/government.

Have you build up a company or a small business yourself?
Would you give the same advice

If you don't want to follow the laws then you are free to choose not to run that business

if it was your business getting forced into accepting partners you don't want.
Well, I would not be willing to throw all my achievements and investments of past years overboard. I think it is ridiculous of any "free" country to tell their people with whom they HAVE to do business.

There is no need to insult someone who has a conflicting opinion, Tribesman.

Can you think of any description apart form small minded bigot that fits someone who doesn't want to deal with people on the grounds of their race or religion ?
If I wanted to open a restaurant and put a NO BLACKS MUSLIMS OR JEWS sign on the door would that be acceptable ? How is it any different in the property rental market or any other business ?

Have you build up a company or a small business yourself?
Would you give the same advice

Yes and yes .

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Can you think of any description apart form small minded bigot that fits someone who doesn't want to deal with people on the grounds of their race or religion ?

I read and reread Skybird's post, and saw nothing offensive, and certainly not anything that warranted SB to be called a bigot.

@ Skybird

You should know by now that that first image is unacceptable. Please remove it.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Can you think of any description apart form small minded bigot that fits someone who doesn't want to deal with people on the grounds of their race or religion ?
If I wanted to open a restaurant and put a NO BLACKS MUSLIMS OR JEWS sign on the door would that be acceptable ? How is it any different in the property rental market or any other business ?

Yes and yes .

You can think any description you want, and you may be correct, but just refrain from including it in your posts. When you call someone a "bigot", they will certainly reply with a name for you, and you know where that leads.

Neal

Really ? It couldn't be any clearer

I am discriminating that persons over them being Islamic, in legal terms

But they will not get a flat in our house anyway, no matter what the laws say.

If that was a good old southern boy talking about not renting to blacks and not giving a damn if the law says he can't refuse service because of skin colour , what words would you use to describe that individual ?
Is it any different to discriminate on the terms of someones religion ?
Or for the really obvious one , what if it was a German saying no Jews allowed?

[Schroeder]

So?
If I don't like Jews I don't rent a flat to them. There are plenty of flats available in Germany and those guys would surely find a home.

If I don't like someone to live in my house I won't allow him to live there and the reasons for that are my concern alone!
Or should I also be forced to allow a gang of Skinheads to live in one of my houses who are very likely to terrorize the neighbourhood and by doing so making my flats unattractive and reducing their value?

If I don't want to do business I don't do it!

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

[...] what words would you use to describe that individual?

In this forum? only civil ones.

Originally Posted by Schroeder

So?
If I don't like Jews I don't rent a flat to them. There are plenty of flats available in Germany and those guys would surely find a home.

If I don't like someone to live in my house I won't allow him to live there and the reasons for that are my concern alone!
Or should I also be forced to allow a gang of Skinheads to live in one of my houses who are very likely to terrorize the neighbourhood and by doing so making my flats unattractive and reducing their value?

If I don't want to do business I don't do it!

The bad thing isn't that you are not renting flats to people you don't like; Thats fine.
The bad thing is that you are deciding that they are people you don't like based on a prejudice.

Saying "all skinheads will terrorize neighbors" or "All Jews will not pay the rent" is
both untrue and unfair. Whats worse is that such attitudes lead to very terrible
things as the history of the world shows us.

When you judge people; judge individuals.

[jumpy]

In response to the times article, I think Pat sums up my feeling on the matter:



Some interesting comments regarding the article too, most seem to have a smattering of common sense...

Free speech or no, the police are a tool of the state - these particular demonstrators were allowed to make their (misguided imo) point, yet protesters were banned from demonstrating against the Chinese state visit. Seems to me that this government will pick and choose what laws it enforces for its own ends. I guess it's the logical continuation of what tony started with Nu-Labour, evolving into gordons' Zanu-Labour as we see it today.

[Schroeder]

@Letum
I think you didn't get the problem.