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Old 02-26-09, 03:34 PM   #46
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so you had no dealings with anyone concerning your departure , route or arrival ?
As covered above, no. I flew from one uncontrolled airport to another, and required no airspace transition in the process. In my part of the country, most of my flying is done that way. At most, I speak with a controller at my destination airport. But not nearly always....
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Old 02-26-09, 08:25 PM   #47
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How about these guys?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/25/mul...ues/index.html

TSA: Mule skinners need background checks, too
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A federal anti-terror law that requires longshoremen, truckers and others to submit to criminal background checks has ensnared another class of transportation worker -- mule drivers.

Yes, so-called mule skinners -- in this case, seasonal workers who dress in colonial garb at a historical park in Easton, Pa. -- must apply for biometric Transportation Worker Identification Credentials (TWIC), according to the Transportation Security Administration, which says it is bound by federal law.

The requirement has officials of the Hugh Moore Historical Park perplexed.

"We have one boat. It's pulled by two mules. On a good day they might go 2 miles per hour," said Sarah B. Hays, the park's director of operations.

The park's two-mile canal does not pass any military bases, nuclear power plants or other sensitive facilities. And, park officials say, the mules could be considered weapons of mass destruction only if they were aimed at something resembling food.

In December, Hayes wrote to Rep. Charles Dent, R-Pennsylvania, about the requirement. Dent, in turn, wrote to the TSA requesting a waiver, noting the mode of transportation involved was "mule-drawn canal boats."

In January, the TSA responded, noting the Maritime Transportation Security Act of 2002 applies to all mariners holding U.S. Coast Guard-issued credentials.

"We encourage the crew members... who possess Coast Guard mariner credentials to obtain a TWIC at their earliest convenience to comply with these requirements and not risk suspension or revocation of their other credentials," the TSA wrote.

On Wednesday, the mule skinner debate reached Capitol Hill, when Dent asked new Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano about the necessity of conducting background checks on mule drivers. He displayed a photo of two mules, Hank and George, tugging a canal boat in the company of two park employee mule drivers in colonial working attire.

"Now Hank and George, while sometimes are ornery, they are not terrorists," Dent said. Napolitano said she would try to be flexible.

"Obviously this is a picture designed to say 'Hey, isn't it absurd that they be required to have TWIC cards.'" Napolitano said. "Um, let's work with you on this particular case, if we might."

Park officials say four or five park employees typically have Coast Guard credentials to operate the canal boat, and the extra expense of a TWIC card, which is at least an extra $100 on top of fees for Coast Guard credentials, is unwelcome.

"I think the rule was written and the policy was set up for all the big shipping, and they never even considered something outside the normal bounds," Hays said.

Dent said he will work on a "common sense" solution with Napolitano.
On the surface seems pretty funny but it is not aimed at the mule operators but holders of a specific class of Coast Guard certification.
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Old 02-26-09, 09:49 PM   #48
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personally i think the TSA neesds to stick to airlines, and freight carriers.

everybody else needs to be left alone

that or be dismantled altogether
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Old 02-26-09, 11:55 PM   #49
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On the surface seems pretty funny but it is not aimed at the mule operators but holders of a specific class of Coast Guard certification.
The funnest part of the TWIC card thing is that unless terminals offer to escort crewmember to and from the gates, foreign seamen arriving in US ports will have to stay on board for the duration of their stays.

Say two days loading at an offshore buoy in Nigeria, three weeks accross the pond, two days unloading at a US port where you can't get off, three weeks accross the pond...

Rinse, lather repeat for an eight month contract. (And there are other places in the world where you aren't allowed to get off, it's not a US specific problem, althought it is rumored to be more common there)

And people wonder why there's a manpower shortage in the merchant marine.
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