SH IV...any reason to buy? - Page 4

XLjedi · 01-10-09, 10:58 PM

Well... I have to say, after playing a few patrols with a Type IX in the Indian Ocean, I'm hooked! I don't think I'll be going back to SH3 now.

I really like how the AI can detect you and actually evade. I've also noticed that the evasive maneuvers are not random. The AI merchie capn's react to your pursuit angle and turn away. If you try to turn inside their radius they reverse direction... not bad!

Also I really like the progressive missions. After you complete an objective, if you send a patrol update, they'll give you another objective. That was a pleasant surprise.

Freiwillige · 01-11-09, 01:10 AM

Well I bought it tonight. It ran slower than I expected but it was playable. I thought the transparent water effect was awesome but in general the over all water seemed worse than SHIII! I only played with it a few minutes checking out random details. Over all I think it could have probably done better with the SHIII engine and better programing as this new engine is just to CPU intensive. And SHIII modded looks almost as good to me. I must admit though that I have only 10 minutes on the sim before I longed to throw back in SHIII. Maybe I just need to play around with it more and get a feel for it but so far I just see a 10% improvment at a loss of 75% of my frame rates!

Weiss Pinguin · 01-11-09, 01:54 AM

I've heard some good things about Trigger Maru and Real Fleet Boat... You might want to check them out.

Freiwillige · 01-11-09, 03:27 AM

Okay completed the first two training missions and I have to admit its growing on me. The frame rates are liveable on medium settings but I keep getting stutters on any graphics settings and no settings make it worse or better low or high.

Ive experianced these stutters on GWX with close up of tankers burning before my ram upgrade to two gigs but this is a every 2 seconds, split second pause that is anoying the heck out of me. Other than that I say its looking better in my eyes.

The over done hollywood special effects are a bit of an imersion killer. Come on a wooden junk shouldnt blow flames and explosions hundreds of feet into the air!

Same scenario with aircraft, A bit over done. But all told it is remotly beautifull at the same time.

By the way why are the fleet boats so damn ugly? None of the sleek Germanic engineering of the Type II\VII\IX. No instead they have stuff hanging out everywhere. I guess we were a bit behind in Submarine technology?

The intro movie rocks though and I have to give 10 out of 10 stars for that one.

Will look into it further tommorow and learn how to fire torps!

AVGWarhawk · 01-11-09, 06:49 AM

It does take a fairly fast machine to run the game. As far as frame rates, just the installation of the environment mode PE4 will help with frame rates. The Hollywood effects are made more realistic.

What spec for your machine are you running the game on?

Weiss Pinguin · 01-11-09, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Freiwillige

The intro movie rocks though and I have to give 10 out of 10 stars for that one.

Probably my favorite intro (And trailer) for a game. I've still no idea what poem they put in, if it is one.

Jimbuna · 01-11-09, 08:57 AM

At todays price it should be a gotta have for everyones gaming library.

Look how far SH3 has come in a little over three years.

Give it another year and who knows how many modding advancements will have been made....it's certainly been modded for the better thus far.

I have it as well as the U-boat add on and I can certainly say it's a great feeling to have the choice of which theatre and indeed which side I want to play.

ReallyDedPoet · 01-11-09, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aaronblood

Also I really like the progressive missions. After you complete an objective, if you send a patrol update, they'll give you another objective. That was a pleasant surprise.

Yeah, this is a neat thing with SH4, the varied missions, and it gets even better with a super-mod installed, they are scripted that much better

RDP

Freiwillige · 01-11-09, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It does take a fairly fast machine to run the game. As far as frame rates, just the installation of the environment mode PE4 will help with frame rates. The Hollywood effects are made more realistic.

What spec for your machine are you running the game on?

The frame rates are not a problem for me its the damn micro stutters that are killing it for me.

CPU:AMD Sempron 2.8 GHz
2 Gigabytes of DDR333
GeForce 7300GT AGP 512megs of DDR2
80 gig WD ATA HD

What is this PE4?

mookiemookie · 01-11-09, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Weiß Pinguin

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Originally Posted by Freiwillige

The intro movie rocks though and I have to give 10 out of 10 stars for that one.

Probably my favorite intro (And trailer) for a game. I've still no idea what poem they put in, if it is one.

On Time by John Milton

XLjedi · 01-11-09, 05:17 PM

Yeah, strange that anyone would like that intro though...

It just does not fit the WWII US fleetboat theme at all for me. It just seems totally bizarre; sounds Mediterranean/European... and the guy has a European accent too.

I would've preferred a cheesy American Navy fight song or something... anything. I thought it was horrible.

Shoot they coulda played "Another One Bites the Dust" and it would've been better.

ReallyDedPoet · 01-11-09, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronblood

Yeah, strange that anyone would like that intro though...

It just does not fit the WWII US fleetboat theme at all for me. It just seems totally bizarre; sounds Mediterranean/European... and the guy has a European accent too.

I would've preferred a cheesy American Navy fight song or something... anything. I thought it was horrible.

Shoot they coulda played "Another One Bites the Dust" and it would've been better.

If you have not already seen it, try out Captain Cox's Silent Service Mod, it is a good one as far as opening movies

RDP

XLjedi · 01-11-09, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

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Originally Posted by aaronblood

Yeah, strange that anyone would like that intro though...

It just does not fit the WWII US fleetboat theme at all for me. It just seems totally bizarre; sounds Mediterranean/European... and the guy has a European accent too.

I would've preferred a cheesy American Navy fight song or something... anything. I thought it was horrible.

Shoot they coulda played "Another One Bites the Dust" and it would've been better.

If you have not already seen it, try out Captain Cox's Silent Service Mod, it is a good one as far as opening movies

RDP

I havent' seen that one... I'll go hunt for it now!

AVGWarhawk · 01-11-09, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Freiwillige

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It does take a fairly fast machine to run the game. As far as frame rates, just the installation of the environment mode PE4 will help with frame rates. The Hollywood effects are made more realistic.

What spec for your machine are you running the game on?

The frame rates are not a problem for me its the damn micro stutters that are killing it for me.

CPU:AMD Sempron 2.8 GHz
2 Gigabytes of DDR333
GeForce 7300GT AGP 512megs of DDR2
80 gig WD ATA HD

What is this PE4?

PE4 found here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=138663

I would say your 7300 is bottlenecking you performance a bit. Anyway, try out the PE4. You will like it.

StarLion45 · 01-11-09, 07:15 PM

I don't know why people says SHIV have better graphics

I am totally agree with BBW that says it looks like cartoon

Look at the sea , toally bad , bad , bad

I have had them both for a long time , SH4 , and the Uboat addons .
I tryed with with the mods "TMO" , "OM" and lots of other mods too

Terrible game

I thought that Ubisoft had learned their lesson regarding
SH3 stock , did they ? Nooo

when it came out 2006-7 , you would think that it looked better graphic ,
but instead it look like cartoon

If you compare with SH3 & SH4 , I would throw the SH4 in the trashcan ( I did it ) and I don't regret it , one bit:p
I suspect the Ubisoft made the SH4 in a hurry , just to keep up the sale success of the SH3 , but they failed , that was their total mistakes . My opinion and advise is that Ubisoft should sell the SH3/SH4 to another manufacturerer , so that it could be much , much better with another manufacturerer than Ubisoft

KaptLehmann once said ; " So long we didn't have the code " we can't do much more " . or something like that . Why Ubisoft don't corporate with GWX team , is for me a mystery .

LONG LIVE gwx 2,1/ 3.0 GOLD

01-10-09, 10:58 PM	#46
XLjedi Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 1,243 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 8	Well... I have to say, after playing a few patrols with a Type IX in the Indian Ocean, I'm hooked! I don't think I'll be going back to SH3 now. I really like how the AI can detect you and actually evade. I've also noticed that the evasive maneuvers are not random. The AI merchie capn's react to your pursuit angle and turn away. If you try to turn inside their radius they reverse direction... not bad! Also I really like the progressive missions. After you complete an objective, if you send a patrol update, they'll give you another objective. That was a pleasant surprise. __________________

01-11-09, 01:54 AM	#48
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	I've heard some good things about Trigger Maru and Real Fleet Boat... You might want to check them out. __________________

01-11-09, 06:49 AM	#50
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,254 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	It does take a fairly fast machine to run the game. As far as frame rates, just the installation of the environment mode PE4 will help with frame rates. The Hollywood effects are made more realistic. What spec for your machine are you running the game on? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-11-09, 08:57 AM	#52
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	At todays price it should be a gotta have for everyones gaming library. Look how far SH3 has come in a little over three years. Give it another year and who knows how many modding advancements will have been made....it's certainly been modded for the better thus far. I have it as well as the U-boat add on and I can certainly say it's a great feeling to have the choice of which theatre and indeed which side I want to play. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-11-09, 05:17 PM	#56
XLjedi Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 1,243 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 8	Yeah, strange that anyone would like that intro though... It just does not fit the WWII US fleetboat theme at all for me. It just seems totally bizarre; sounds Mediterranean/European... and the guy has a European accent too. I would've preferred a cheesy American Navy fight song or something... anything. I thought it was horrible. Shoot they coulda played "Another One Bites the Dust" and it would've been better. __________________

01-11-09, 01:10 AM	#47
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Well I bought it tonight. It ran slower than I expected but it was playable. I thought the transparent water effect was awesome but in general the over all water seemed worse than SHIII! I only played with it a few minutes checking out random details. Over all I think it could have probably done better with the SHIII engine and better programing as this new engine is just to CPU intensive. And SHIII modded looks almost as good to me. I must admit though that I have only 10 minutes on the sim before I longed to throw back in SHIII. Maybe I just need to play around with it more and get a feel for it but so far I just see a 10% improvment at a loss of 75% of my frame rates!

01-11-09, 03:27 AM	#49
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Okay completed the first two training missions and I have to admit its growing on me. The frame rates are liveable on medium settings but I keep getting stutters on any graphics settings and no settings make it worse or better low or high. Ive experianced these stutters on GWX with close up of tankers burning before my ram upgrade to two gigs but this is a every 2 seconds, split second pause that is anoying the heck out of me. Other than that I say its looking better in my eyes. The over done hollywood special effects are a bit of an imersion killer. Come on a wooden junk shouldnt blow flames and explosions hundreds of feet into the air! Same scenario with aircraft, A bit over done. But all told it is remotly beautifull at the same time. By the way why are the fleet boats so damn ugly? None of the sleek Germanic engineering of the Type II\VII\IX. No instead they have stuff hanging out everywhere. I guess we were a bit behind in Submarine technology? The intro movie rocks though and I have to give 10 out of 10 stars for that one. Will look into it further tommorow and learn how to fire torps!

01-11-09, 07:15 PM	#60
StarLion45 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stavanger,Norway Posts: 895 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	SHIV I don't know why people says SHIV have better graphics I am totally agree with BBW that says it looks like cartoon Look at the sea , toally bad , bad , bad I have had them both for a long time , SH4 , and the Uboat addons . I tryed with with the mods "TMO" , "OM" and lots of other mods too Terrible game I thought that Ubisoft had learned their lesson regarding SH3 stock , did they ? Nooo when it came out 2006-7 , you would think that it looked better graphic , but instead it look like cartoon If you compare with SH3 & SH4 , I would throw the SH4 in the trashcan ( I did it ) and I don't regret it , one bit:p I suspect the Ubisoft made the SH4 in a hurry , just to keep up the sale success of the SH3 , but they failed , that was their total mistakes . My opinion and advise is that Ubisoft should sell the SH3/SH4 to another manufacturerer , so that it could be much , much better with another manufacturerer than Ubisoft KaptLehmann once said ; " So long we didn't have the code " we can't do much more " . or something like that . Why Ubisoft don't corporate with GWX team , is for me a mystery . LONG LIVE gwx 2,1/ 3.0 GOLD