World War III - A Prediction

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

I got a few lines in until you said this

If you can't even get recent history right you have no business trying to say what will cause the Third World war..

At best I can only agree with the title subchaser12 gave.

What, I think he has a right to speculate that NK and Iran are pursuing nukes. I think they are too.

[nikimcbee]

Anteater is right. It seems to me the current state of Russian politics is more about nationalism than communism. I don't know how powerful Zyuganov currently is. Russia has always been an authoritarian state, regardless of who's incharge.

I think it would seem that the Russians are embracing the communist era more for a personal pride, nostagia, than re-embracing communism itself. I wonder if Russia is dumb enough to re-introduce a command economy?

[Koondawg]

Let's look at it from this perspective...

My kids 7 and 9 I do believe will see great events. And if anyone has noticed that history does repeat itself...thus it will endour another repeat...
Only we can wait and see...I havn't heard anything about a modern day Nostradamus

KD

PS: has anyone yet seen "The Day the Earth Stood Still 2008" Kinda makes you wonder...

BTW its available to watch already on the net...

[Thomen]

Aramike,
If I may make a suggestion or two..

I would use a couple books as source that are on this topic.
Even, though highly ficticious there are atleast two that come to mind and can give some insight.
a.) Red Storm Rising by Tom Clancy
and
b.) Team Yankee, by Harold Coyle.

There is are two more books I can suggest about that very topic, written as a study paper/book by a General (ret), but unfortunately, I am in Germany right now and can't give a title. But I think it was called World War III. It was was pre 1990's, so no idea how usefull it might have been.


EDIT:
I think I found it at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Third-World-Wa.../dp/0025471104

[August]

Originally Posted by Thomen

I think I found it at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Third-World-Wa.../dp/0025471104

I read that book back when the first version came out (1978). I was a very young army private stationed in West Germany at the time so I found it rather gripping although I didn't think the end was very plausible.

[Aramike]

Thanks for the suggestions and feedback, everyone. I'm going to try to put some more stuff up from my paper tomorrow or Monday, once I get some of the kinks worked out.

A couple things in specific...

Aramike,
If I may make a suggestion or two..

I would use a couple books as source that are on this topic.
Even, though highly ficticious there are atleast two that come to mind and can give some insight.
a.) Red Storm Rising by Tom Clancy
and
b.) Team Yankee, by Harold Coyle.

Good suggestions. Actually, Red Storm Rising is one of my favorites. Clancy co-wrote it with Larry Bond who authored a book called Red Pheonix regarding a limited conflict in North Korea. I'll have to look into Team Yankee and the other title you suggested.

I don't see the current russian resurgence as anything communist, though.
It might be called somewhat more totalitarian but it is not based on Marx or the idea of a dictatorship of the working class.

I agree and probably should have been more clear about it. I was more referencing the fact that the Russians are attempting to rekindle relations with the old communist bloc. They are indeed taking some serious steps in the wrong direction (repealing speech/press freedoms are a recent example), and I believe that this will be a major cause of the conflict I predict.

I think it would seem that the Russians are embracing the communist era more for a personal pride, nostagia, than re-embracing communism itself. I wonder if Russia is dumb enough to re-introduce a command economy?

I think you have a good point there as well.

[Aramike]

Oh, and someone asked whether or not I believe such a war would be nuclear or conventional. I do have an opinion about that but admittedly, I can't support it. I'm going to withhold my thoughts regarding it until I've further reflected upon my reasonings.

The type of conflict is beyond the scope of what I'm working on, however. I'm simply going to attempt to demonstrate how I believe the world's current state of affairs have us on an express elevator down to the hell of the 3rd World War.

[Oberon]

Back in the days of the Cold War, was it not NATO policy that if the Soviets advanced beyond a certain point battlefield nuclear weapons were to be used? :hmm:

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Back in the days of the Cold War, was it not NATO policy that if the Soviets advanced beyond a certain point battlefield nuclear weapons were to be used? :hmm:

Yeah, in a sense. In fact, this directly led to the development of the so-called neutron bomb.

[baggygreen]

Maybe I should send you a similar piece I wrote when studying a nat. security degree.

It went down fairly poorly with the uni types (ANU is possibly the most liberal of all unis in oz) but I was satisfied with what I wrote - it was fully sourced and I don't think it was overly far-fetched. I'll see if I can find it.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by baggygreen

Maybe I should send you a similar piece I wrote when studying a nat. security degree.

It went down fairly poorly with the uni types (ANU is possibly the most liberal of all unis in oz) but I was satisfied with what I wrote - it was fully sourced and I don't think it was overly far-fetched. I'll see if I can find it.

Cool. Let me know if you can dig it up.

[Kapt Z]

Originally Posted by Letum

If you want to count the 'war on terror', then we should also count the 'war on drugs'
the 'war on illiteracy' and 'the war on all other abstract nouns'.

Not really relevant to the thread I guess, but we do love those 'War on .....' phrases.

[joegrundman]

Yes, it makes it all sound so manly

We need some aliens to attempt to invade us to unite us.

[Frame57]

Originally Posted by Rilder

We need some aliens to attempt to invade us to unite us.

Sounds corny, but true in a sense. On a micro scale we see siblings who fight like cats and dogs, but then watch what happens when an outsider starts something... the siblings unite for each other, and then go back to fighting with each other when the threat is over...:hmm: