Side discussion on religon from Mumbai thread

[Skybird]

Thread not started by me, but the mods. Don't hold me responsible for this. It got separated from a thread on religious terrorism, because religious terrorism does seem to have nothing to do with religion anymore, apparently.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by caspofungin

another religion thread. ****ing brilliant.

Maybe I'll make another one, in addition to Rockstar's "Book of Daniel" thread.

[caspofungin]

And yet you chose to post in it and in so doing, cause it to rise again right to the top of the first page

my weakness puts food on the table of religious leaders everywhere

[baggygreen]

Originally Posted by caspofungin

my weakness puts food on the table of religious leaders everywhere

:rotfl:

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7758651.stm

[Skybird]

I'd prefer Muslims to stop "militants" from acting in Islam's name, and topple religious authorities and governments fostering them. After the deed is done, words are cheap. but point them at the passages where the Quran demands the killing of infidels and the discrimination of Jews and Christians, and they feel offended and say they cannot act against their fellow muslims.

I don't give a penny anymore for what Islamic communities say about Islamic terror. They are not about preventing it - they are about their perverse idea of what is their "honour" and how it is to be respected, this precious "honour", and how their "honour" is not to get offended, and that it is to be seen as so very important and unique.

Accept getting attacked by Islamic activists, but do not point finger at Islam - that is all it is about. Spit.

when they delete major components of Quran that makes Quran an unforgiving, totalitarian enemy of all non-Islamic mankind, when they hand over "radicals" from their middle all by themselves, and crush the tyrants and the religious autocrats representing them, and start inviting foreign cultures to islamic countries and build as many temples and culture centres for them as mosques are build in christian europe, and when they brake the power of Muslim countries massively financing Islamic terrorism and assisting the Islamic hijacking of the Western societies, countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Lybia - then we can talk again about re-evaluation of relations and to what degree we should start to respect our former enemy.

But not one day earlier. The magic word is "reciprocity". And the West leads by over 40 years of prior concessions that are more or less completely - unanswered. Colourful words only, and symbolic acts - are cheap only, and cost nothing.

[Nicolas]

Hello
Oh a Crhistian here!
Everyone that commits sins are slaves of the sin, who can deny that, you can bury the sin but its still there, waiting to show up, you will be free only if Someone sets you free, Someone paid the price of your sins. Shame so many people are wasting the grace of God

[Stealth Hunter]

Oh dammit. Not more preaching, PLEASE.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Oh dammit. Not more preaching, PLEASE.

What he says. Keep thy religion to thyself.

[August]

Ignore the athiests. A little preaching is not out of place in a thread discussing religion.

[Stealth Hunter]

:rotfl:

It's quite out of place in a thread discussing the problems with religion.

Edit:

Sky, you'll be happy to hear this (I know I was):

[XabbaRus]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Thread not started by me, but the mods. Don't hold me responsible for this. It got separated from a thread on religious terrorism, because religious terrorism does seem to have nothing to do with religion anymore, apparently.

Whether it got split by the mods or not you did in fact start it.


:yawn

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Whether it got split by the mods or not you did in fact start it.


:yawn

Nonsens, as long as an act of religious terror is not forbidden to be named as an act of religiously motivated terror, which indeed I did, in a sarcastic manner.

I did not and have not for over a year started any thread on relgion and atheist disucssions. check my profile and list of started threads if you don'T belioeve it. I just posted it two weeks ago, but you can find it yourself.

What did you think the mumbai attacks, carried out by Muslim terrorists educated and trained in Pakistani Quran schools, were about? A form of violant protest against the high level of unemployment?

Get real, Xabba. identifying the attackers to be acting on the basis of the relgion they claim, does not mean to launch a theological debate. If you want that, take Rockstar's bible class as an example of how to do that. but if you think islak,imc terrorism has nothing to do with religion and islam, then you make a very big mistake.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

:rotfl:

It's quite out of place in a thread discussing the problems with religion.

Edit:

Sky, you'll be happy to hear this (I know I was):

healthy reason by the man. religious motivation understood that way i have no problem with.

The video is only an excerpt, I knew the full speech before, you can find it here:

http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060628-call_to_renewal/

[kurtz]

Originally Posted by Nicolas

Hello
Oh a Crhistian here!
Everyone that commits sins are slaves of the sin, who can deny that, you can bury the sin but its still there, waiting to show up, you will be free only if Someone sets you free, Someone paid the price of your sins. Shame so many people are wasting the grace of God

What's this? Someone paid the price of my sins before I committed them? Did they pay the full whack or slightly over? If it was over does that mean I've got a bit of sinning I can do?
This was a thread about how religion leads to terrorism and this post is plain weird, and TBH is symptomatic of the thinking which makes these people think they have the god given right to dictate to others what they should think. When of course what you should think is...