Bush Orders Military to Deliver Aid to Georgia - Page 4

Rockstar · 08-15-08, 01:21 PM

All the european armchair quarterbacks are once again back in place I see. As usual so wonderfully insightful AFTER the fact.

Why the silence prior too and after the fact from the high and mighty above the fray eurogirl governments. Is it because Russia surprised the world? Maybe you just didn't see it coming, or maybe it's because this is YOUR proxy war for oil. Where is Britain, Italy, France, Germany speaking out against the atrositites for such an act against Georgia? How come instead we have to hear it from intellectually superior here at Subsim.com.

Let see, Russian supplies 25% of your oil and 45% of your natural gas. I suppose if you actually grew a pair Russia wouldn't hesitate to turn it off completly or jack up the price so fast you eurogirls would be living in cardboard boxes before the weeks end. No, you will let your oil supplyers do as they please while you sit atop your self proclaimed intellectual high ground and looking down upon the whole ordeal as someone elses problem. Lamenting over the horrors of war, crying out how many more people will die if somebody else doesn't put a stop to it. The burden you bear, it must be terrible for you.

If someone does step up to the plate and the bombing stops. I can't wait to hear another round of your chirrping insightful after the fact critiques and finger pointing by the way it was handled. On the otherhand if you keep your heads in the sand long enought it might just go away. Then! after you dust off you can all pat yourselves on the back for leading the way to a peaceful resolution.

But for now it's mums the word, point fingers and look for excuses eh eurogirls?

Happy Times · 08-15-08, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar

All the european armchair quarterbacks are once again back in place I see. As usual so wonderfully insightful AFTER the fact.

Why the silence prior too and after the fact from the high and mighty above the fray eurogirl governments. Is it because Russia surprised the world? Maybe you just didn't see it coming, or maybe it's because this is YOUR proxy war for oil. Where is Britain, Italy, France, Germany speaking out against the atrositites for such an act against Georgia? How come instead we have to hear it from intellectually superior here at Subsim.com.

Let see, Russian supplies 25% of your oil and 45% of your natural gas. I suppose if you actually grew a pair Russia wouldn't hesitate to turn it off completly or jack up the price so fast you eurogirls would be living in cardboard boxes before the weeks end. No, you will let your oil supplyers do as they please while you sit atop your self proclaimed intellectual high ground and looking down upon the whole ordeal as someone elses problem. Lamenting over the horrors of war, crying out how many more people will die if somebody else doesn't put a stop to it. The burden you bear, it must be terrible for you.

If someone does step up to the plate and the bombing stops. I can't wait to hear another round of your chirrping insightful after the fact critiques and finger pointing by the way it was handled. On the otherhand if you keep your heads in the sand long enought it might just go away. Then! after you dust off you can all pat yourselves on the back for leading the way to a peaceful resolution.

But for now it's mums the word, point fingers and look for excuses eh eurogirls?

:rotfl:

Foxtrot · 08-15-08, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar

All the european armchair quarterbacks are once again back in place I see. As usual so wonderfully insightful AFTER the fact.

Why the silence prior too and after the fact from the high and mighty above the fray eurogirl governments. Is it because Russia surprised the world? Maybe you just didn't see it coming, or maybe it's because this is YOUR proxy war for oil. Where is Britain, Italy, France, Germany speaking out against the atrositites for such an act against Georgia? How come instead we have to hear it from intellectually superior here at Subsim.com.

Let see, Russian supplies 25% of your oil and 45% of your natural gas. I suppose if you actually grew a pair Russia wouldn't hesitate to turn it off completly or jack up the price so fast you eurogirls would be living in cardboard boxes before the weeks end. No, you will let your oil supplyers do as they please while you sit atop your self proclaimed intellectual high ground and looking down upon the whole ordeal as someone elses problem. Lamenting over the horrors of war, crying out how many more people will die if somebody else doesn't put a stop to it. The burden you bear, it must be terrible for you.

If someone does step up to the plate and the bombing stops. I can't wait to hear another round of your chirrping insightful after the fact critiques and finger pointing by the way it was handled. On the otherhand if you keep your heads in the sand long enought it might just go away. Then! after you dust off you can all pat yourselves on the back for leading the way to a peaceful resolution.

But for now it's mums the word, point fingers and look for excuses eh eurogirls?

Calm down buddy. Would my porn collection help you? There're some Czech girls too

No pun intended but someone somewhere is doing some piss poor job

UnderseaLcpl · 08-15-08, 03:40 PM

My only regret about this conflict is that we're not selling weapons to both sides.

Rockstar · 08-16-08, 03:21 PM

I'm calm and quite frankly pretty darned happy.

It's just I see the usual bunch of self proclaimed intellectuals claiming the moral high ground chirping the same old song. After all the high and mighty talk about peace and happyness in eurogirlandia a freaking war starts in their own backyard AGAIN. Then the usual b.s. ensues "oh no Bush sends troops!" "What did Cheney have to do with it?" U.S. this, U.S. that, what a load of tripe. Critquing the whole affair from their armchairs they're farking useless and nothing more than a bunch of hypocritical female cry babies. Of course when that doesn't work eurogirls talk about statistics, numbers and or how economics are playing a part between the warring countries. How the Georgians could do this if... or Russia could but... If those eurotypes who frequent this board are any indication of what eurogirls are made of the reason I suppose eurogirl history oozes carnage, violence and war is they are just a bunch of hollow lifeless bastiges.

I am waiting to see the eurogirls stand up to the Russian bear. Come on girls take your heads out of the sand just once lets see you actually participate in world affairs. Lets see if all your 20/20 hindsight can overcome the present. History has proven time and time again you can start wars lets see if you stop one brewing in your own backyard. Logistics shouldn't be a problem it's only several hundred miles from you.

But alas you dare not step up lest Papa Putin gets mad and turns your oil off this winter. Can't have that now can you your great political leaders have proclaimed global warming will stop for the next ten years. So keep your heads in the sand the oil must flow!

Farking hypocrites the whole lot of ya.

Signed yours truly

David Sorenson
Ft. Monroe, VA

P.S. if ya'all grew a pair and stood up for something worth while besides your pitiful selfs I'd join ya.

Platapus · 08-16-08, 03:23 PM

Rockstar,

how do you really feel? I am getting mixed signals from your post.

Bruno Lotse · 08-16-08, 03:41 PM

According to Deputy Commander of the Russian Army Igor Konashenkov
as of Aug 16th Russian troops "borrowed" from Georgian army
65 tanks, 15 BMP and other armored vehicles.

44 tanks are in a mint condition. They will find their proper use in Russian arsenal.
The rest of Georgian armor is either obsolete or no use for Russian tank forces,
so those vehicles are being "recycled".
Russians made sure that all "recycled" vehicles would never ever contribute to global warming!

http://news.ntv.ru/138258/

American taxpayers, please, keep on supplying new armor to Russian forces!!!
The sooner - the better.

Skybird · 08-17-08, 05:10 AM

(German)

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...572526,00.html

This is telltaling on the confused and seriously distorted state of mind of Saakashvili. It sounds like the stupid babbling of a 5-year old being offered the choice between several things and no not knowing which one to pick. I always perceived him like this, so I doubt it is just an issue of lacking sleep. Trottel.

Meanwhile, the leader of the democratic opposition in Georgia - the one opposition that repeatedly got beaten up by Saakashvilli's police with iron fists and solid sticks when demonstrating against him: why is nobody complaining about that, for a change? - commented on the Georgian decision to go to a state of open war. German media, TV yesterday night and radio today, quoted him with calling the decison of Saakshvilli to attack the Russians a "crime against his own people" for which now the Georgian people have to bleed, and an "evidence of his intellectual incompetence".

Merkel and Medwedew parted without even shaking hands, it was said. I wouldn't shake her hand, too.

A perspective on the next conflict deriving from the Soviet legacy: Crimean peninsula.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...nt/7563623.stm

I personally think that the post-Soviet era of western dominance and Russian obedience is ending, and that we see the beginning of a new diplomatic age between Russia and the West that will be formed by a much more self-confident and stronger Russia. Something like the past 20 years, just with reversed roles, maybe. eventually it could end in a status of greater stability in the east, a stability that nevertheless is enforced and maintained with force. If so, this could eventually reshuffle the cards in Russia's losing confrontation with a.) Islam in the south, and b.) chionese pressure in the south-east. Which again means pressure imposed on both, which again indirectly could eventually effect the West's relations to them as well, may it be that both players need to reshift ressources and attention from the Western playground to the souther-russian one, or may it be demands both adress to the West to actively support them in their match against the Russians "else...".

We should be careful and hesitent to accept that demand. If somebody thinks under the impression of recent events the Russians are our greatest problem, I think he is wrong.

P.S. I think this is the politicians I mentioned above, this time in an exclusive interview with Der Spiegel. He reminds the West that Saakashvilli's rgime is a criminal regime not a bit democratic, that he supresses civil rights and that he supresses media and demonstrations with force, hindering their political activities and proclamation of their opinions in public by declaring states of emergency. He directly compares him to any authoritarian regime there is, and compares him to Putin.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...572496,00.html

Schroeder · 08-17-08, 06:41 AM

@Rockstar

First of all I would like to know what problem you have with females? Didn't you get enough love from you mother?

Second, why should we attack Russia? BOTH sides did their good share in starting this, and Georgia actually brought it on herself. So why attacking Russia (which would be suicidal by the way, just in case you have forgotten about the strengths of the Russian army

)?

Third, you say we only stand up for things worth while for ourselves. Does that mean all of Europe should withdraw their troops from Afghanistan, Iraq, Enduring Freedom etc.?
Why are we in Afghanistan?:hmm: I remember a certain country that was attacked by terrorists. This country is not part of Europe, yet we are there. There are no natural resources to be exploited (except for drugs) nor any other benefits from being there. We are only spending plenty of money and some lives for nothing in return. Strangely enough some citizens of that non European country are blaming us to do nothing that wouldn't give us any advantage...., odd isn't it?

Bruno Lotse · 08-17-08, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder

@Rockstar
Second, why should we attack Russia? BOTH sides did their good share in starting this, and Georgia actually brought it on herself. So why attacking Russia (which would be suicidal by the way, just in case you have forgotten about the strengths of the Russian army

)?

Let's better be friends

Skybird · 08-17-08, 08:55 AM

Right-on-target-comment by Time magazine:

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...832988,00.html

That author speaks my thoughts, and is agreeable factual.

mrbeast · 08-17-08, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Right-on-target-comment by Time magazine:

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...832988,00.html

That author speaks my thoughts, and is agreeable factual.

Good article Skybird

Happy Times · 08-17-08, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruno Lotse

Let's better be friends

It must be hard for you to live in Canada? Here is some Russia Strong pics for you to ease the pain.

Bruno Lotse · 08-17-08, 05:00 PM

Yeah, their leader looks like a MAN
and acts like a MAN.

Happy Times · 08-17-08, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruno Lotse

Yeah, their leader looks like a MAN
and acts like a MAN.

How do you spell Y.M.C.A in cyrillic?:hmm:

08-15-08, 01:21 PM	#46
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	All the european armchair quarterbacks are once again back in place I see. As usual so wonderfully insightful AFTER the fact. Why the silence prior too and after the fact from the high and mighty above the fray eurogirl governments. Is it because Russia surprised the world? Maybe you just didn't see it coming, or maybe it's because this is YOUR proxy war for oil. Where is Britain, Italy, France, Germany speaking out against the atrositites for such an act against Georgia? How come instead we have to hear it from intellectually superior here at Subsim.com. Let see, Russian supplies 25% of your oil and 45% of your natural gas. I suppose if you actually grew a pair Russia wouldn't hesitate to turn it off completly or jack up the price so fast you eurogirls would be living in cardboard boxes before the weeks end. No, you will let your oil supplyers do as they please while you sit atop your self proclaimed intellectual high ground and looking down upon the whole ordeal as someone elses problem. Lamenting over the horrors of war, crying out how many more people will die if somebody else doesn't put a stop to it. The burden you bear, it must be terrible for you. If someone does step up to the plate and the bombing stops. I can't wait to hear another round of your chirrping insightful after the fact critiques and finger pointing by the way it was handled. On the otherhand if you keep your heads in the sand long enought it might just go away. Then! after you dust off you can all pat yourselves on the back for leading the way to a peaceful resolution. But for now it's mums the word, point fingers and look for excuses eh eurogirls? Last edited by Rockstar; 08-15-08 at 01:48 PM.

08-15-08, 03:40 PM	#49
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My only regret about this conflict is that we're not selling weapons to both sides. __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

08-16-08, 03:23 PM	#51
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,369 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Rockstar, how do you really feel? I am getting mixed signals from your post. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

08-16-08, 03:41 PM	#52
Bruno Lotse Sonar Guy Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: HMCS Toronto (K 538) Posts: 385 Downloads: 480 Uploads: 0	According to Deputy Commander of the Russian Army Igor Konashenkov as of Aug 16th Russian troops "borrowed" from Georgian army 65 tanks, 15 BMP and other armored vehicles. 44 tanks are in a mint condition. They will find their proper use in Russian arsenal. The rest of Georgian armor is either obsolete or no use for Russian tank forces, so those vehicles are being "recycled". Russians made sure that all "recycled" vehicles would never ever contribute to global warming! http://news.ntv.ru/138258/ American taxpayers, please, keep on supplying new armor to Russian forces!!! The sooner - the better. __________________ Wie einst Lili Marleen. Last edited by Bruno Lotse; 08-17-08 at 05:55 AM.

08-17-08, 05:10 AM	#53
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,634 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	(German) http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...572526,00.html This is telltaling on the confused and seriously distorted state of mind of Saakashvili. It sounds like the stupid babbling of a 5-year old being offered the choice between several things and no not knowing which one to pick. I always perceived him like this, so I doubt it is just an issue of lacking sleep. Trottel. Meanwhile, the leader of the democratic opposition in Georgia - the one opposition that repeatedly got beaten up by Saakashvilli's police with iron fists and solid sticks when demonstrating against him: why is nobody complaining about that, for a change? - commented on the Georgian decision to go to a state of open war. German media, TV yesterday night and radio today, quoted him with calling the decison of Saakshvilli to attack the Russians a "crime against his own people" for which now the Georgian people have to bleed, and an "evidence of his intellectual incompetence". Merkel and Medwedew parted without even shaking hands, it was said. I wouldn't shake her hand, too. A perspective on the next conflict deriving from the Soviet legacy: Crimean peninsula. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...nt/7563623.stm I personally think that the post-Soviet era of western dominance and Russian obedience is ending, and that we see the beginning of a new diplomatic age between Russia and the West that will be formed by a much more self-confident and stronger Russia. Something like the past 20 years, just with reversed roles, maybe. eventually it could end in a status of greater stability in the east, a stability that nevertheless is enforced and maintained with force. If so, this could eventually reshuffle the cards in Russia's losing confrontation with a.) Islam in the south, and b.) chionese pressure in the south-east. Which again means pressure imposed on both, which again indirectly could eventually effect the West's relations to them as well, may it be that both players need to reshift ressources and attention from the Western playground to the souther-russian one, or may it be demands both adress to the West to actively support them in their match against the Russians "else...". We should be careful and hesitent to accept that demand. If somebody thinks under the impression of recent events the Russians are our greatest problem, I think he is wrong. P.S. I think this is the politicians I mentioned above, this time in an exclusive interview with Der Spiegel. He reminds the West that Saakashvilli's rgime is a criminal regime not a bit democratic, that he supresses civil rights and that he supresses media and demonstrations with force, hindering their political activities and proclamation of their opinions in public by declaring states of emergency. He directly compares him to any authoritarian regime there is, and compares him to Putin. http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...572496,00.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 08-17-08 at 05:29 AM.

08-16-08, 03:21 PM	#50
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I'm calm and quite frankly pretty darned happy. It's just I see the usual bunch of self proclaimed intellectuals claiming the moral high ground chirping the same old song. After all the high and mighty talk about peace and happyness in eurogirlandia a freaking war starts in their own backyard AGAIN. Then the usual b.s. ensues "oh no Bush sends troops!" "What did Cheney have to do with it?" U.S. this, U.S. that, what a load of tripe. Critquing the whole affair from their armchairs they're farking useless and nothing more than a bunch of hypocritical female cry babies. Of course when that doesn't work eurogirls talk about statistics, numbers and or how economics are playing a part between the warring countries. How the Georgians could do this if... or Russia could but... If those eurotypes who frequent this board are any indication of what eurogirls are made of the reason I suppose eurogirl history oozes carnage, violence and war is they are just a bunch of hollow lifeless bastiges. I am waiting to see the eurogirls stand up to the Russian bear. Come on girls take your heads out of the sand just once lets see you actually participate in world affairs. Lets see if all your 20/20 hindsight can overcome the present. History has proven time and time again you can start wars lets see if you stop one brewing in your own backyard. Logistics shouldn't be a problem it's only several hundred miles from you. But alas you dare not step up lest Papa Putin gets mad and turns your oil off this winter. Can't have that now can you your great political leaders have proclaimed global warming will stop for the next ten years. So keep your heads in the sand the oil must flow! Farking hypocrites the whole lot of ya. Signed yours truly David Sorenson Ft. Monroe, VA P.S. if ya'all grew a pair and stood up for something worth while besides your pitiful selfs I'd join ya.

08-17-08, 06:41 AM	#54
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	@Rockstar First of all I would like to know what problem you have with females? Didn't you get enough love from you mother? Second, why should we attack Russia? BOTH sides did their good share in starting this, and Georgia actually brought it on herself. So why attacking Russia (which would be suicidal by the way, just in case you have forgotten about the strengths of the Russian army)? Third, you say we only stand up for things worth while for ourselves. Does that mean all of Europe should withdraw their troops from Afghanistan, Iraq, Enduring Freedom etc.? Why are we in Afghanistan?:hmm: I remember a certain country that was attacked by terrorists. This country is not part of Europe, yet we are there. There are no natural resources to be exploited (except for drugs) nor any other benefits from being there. We are only spending plenty of money and some lives for nothing in return. Strangely enough some citizens of that non European country are blaming us to do nothing that wouldn't give us any advantage...., odd isn't it?

08-17-08, 08:55 AM	#56
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,634 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Right-on-target-comment by Time magazine: http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...832988,00.html That author speaks my thoughts, and is agreeable factual. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-17-08, 05:00 PM	#59
Bruno Lotse Sonar Guy Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: HMCS Toronto (K 538) Posts: 385 Downloads: 480 Uploads: 0	Yeah, their leader looks like a MAN and acts like a MAN. __________________ Wie einst Lili Marleen.