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Old 08-05-08, 04:53 PM   #46
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This thread is getting hot.

Pass me the popcorn.
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Old 08-05-08, 04:55 PM   #47
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This thread is getting hot.

Pass me the popcorn.
I'm out of it, so if you didn't have any already, then you missed out.

I can't stand it when people do not accept reality, but to tell you the truth, its not surprising.

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Old 08-05-08, 04:55 PM   #48
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Note to self - Not every member of the Green Party is actually a green person.

The Royal Society is not composed solely of monarchs.

Some Log Cabin Republicans live in apartments (but we're not supposed to know that)
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Old 08-05-08, 04:56 PM   #49
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Darn it I was about to tuck in.
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Old 08-05-08, 05:16 PM   #50
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Subman just uncovered another conspiracy
Read his post on progressists carefully, then go there : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism
Scroll down to the "advocates" list. Yes, you read it right, there's Barack Obama
Reds under the bed :rotfl:
Oh come on man! You've known this by simply listening to the guy. Why do you think I think McCain is the lesser of two evils here?

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Old 08-05-08, 05:31 PM   #51
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Subman just uncovered another conspiracy
Read his post on progressists carefully, then go there : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism
Scroll down to the "advocates" list. Yes, you read it right, there's Barack Obama
Reds under the bed :rotfl:
Oh come on man! You've known this by simply listening to the guy. Why do you think I think McCain is the lesser of two evils here?

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Because hes not black? :hmm:
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Old 08-05-08, 06:10 PM   #52
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Subman, Don't you know conservative=fascist?

sounds pretty stupid doesn't it.

If I started calling you a fascist every time you voiced your conservative opinions I doubt you would like it very much; so please just give all this 'your a communist' baloney a rest.
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Old 08-05-08, 06:17 PM   #53
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You just can't stop digging that hole can you Subman1?

#1 I am against unions (OMG, but look at my posts during the ULA strike on NASASpaceflight and you can confirm this)

#2 I said I was a progressive not a damn Labor movement!

Wow Subman you just can't accept that there is no big conspiricy can you? Here is a hint.. You arent making any friends among progressives and you are also possibly posting double libel because you are trying to involve these two movements (That likely have far more money and legal big shots than I do) In your spat with me..

If you can't accept that I am not a commie then maybe you need time in the brig after all. For I am done explaining myself and for now on the issue will be handled by management..

Edit: But then I guess that would mean I will be called a Nazi next? Now I am really confused... :P
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Old 08-05-08, 06:22 PM   #54
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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Subman just uncovered another conspiracy
Read his post on progressists carefully, then go there : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism
Scroll down to the "advocates" list. Yes, you read it right, there's Barack Obama
Reds under the bed :rotfl:
Oh come on man! You've known this by simply listening to the guy. Why do you think I think McCain is the lesser of two evils here?

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Because hes not black? :hmm:
Best burn!!!! Of the topic!

Normally I would say that race has nothing to do with it.. But then again that was before same person decided Progressive=Communist..

Woo Man this forum is crazY sometimes!
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Old 08-05-08, 06:45 PM   #55
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Subman just uncovered another conspiracy
Read his post on progressists carefully, then go there : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism
Scroll down to the "advocates" list. Yes, you read it right, there's Barack Obama
Reds under the bed :rotfl:
Oh come on man! You've known this by simply listening to the guy. Why do you think I think McCain is the lesser of two evils here?

-S
Because hes not black? :hmm:
No, it's because he's not English.
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Old 08-05-08, 08:14 PM   #56
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You just can't stop digging that hole can you Subman1?

#1 I am against unions (OMG, but look at my posts during the ULA strike on NASASpaceflight and you can confirm this)

#2 I said I was a progressive not a damn Labor movement!

Wow Subman you just can't accept that there is no big conspiricy can you? Here is a hint.. You arent making any friends among progressives and you are also possibly posting double libel because you are trying to involve these two movements (That likely have far more money and legal big shots than I do) In your spat with me..

If you can't accept that I am not a commie then maybe you need time in the brig after all. For I am done explaining myself and for now on the issue will be handled by management..

Edit: But then I guess that would mean I will be called a Nazi next? Now I am really confused... :P
You gave me a good laugh! Thanks!

Man, do you even know what you are? Let's see, every progressive party is Communist, including the main one that I posted above, but you're not a Communist? Not sure how that is possible, but maybe you can explain that for the rest of us.

Let's see, labor is what your party calls itself the only progressive party I might add. You can even get on Wiki, and they have no word 'labor' in yet, they still call it Communist. Maybe this is something new that you created that the rest of us have no idea exists? If so, share! Actually don't bother - I could care less.

So how can you sit there and deny what you are? How can you say that Progressive is not Communist, yet every peice of literature on the web shows you that it is?

So basically what you've done is confirmed the prior post on your pseudo belief system.

Let me explain something to you then - You are either a Communist under a nice banner called progressive, or you have NO IDEA what you are. No other option.

And yes, the only real conspiracy around here is your threats and attempts to get me banned as you mention it in each and every thread at least once. You've done everything in your power to make this happen, but with that, I have a confession to make that might upset you. What I want you to know:

Unlike you, I do not rush to Subsim daily to find out what Zachstar has said about me. I could care less!

You are in my thread however here.

My interest sits with posting cool posts with interesting topics. However, I see you like to come over to my interesting topics and troll at times. Thats your porogative. It comes down to this - if you don't like what I have to say, do not visit my threads with your I'm better than everyone else mentality. Simple as that. If you don't get anything else in this world, at least you might be able to get this idea.

Thanks,

-S

PS. Let me remind you what the Progressive Party is:

Progressive Labor Party


WHAT WE FIGHT FOR

Progressive Labor Party (PLP) fights to smash capitalism -- wage slavery. While the bosses and their mouthpieces claim "communism is dead:" capitalism is the real failure for billions all over the world. Capitalism returned to the Soviet Union and China because socialism failed to wipe out many aspects of the profit system, like wages and division of labor.

- Capitalism inevitably leads to wars. PLP organizes workers, students and soldiers to turn these wars into a revolution for communism -- the dictatorship of the proletariat. This fight requires a mass Red Army led by the communist PLP.

- Communism means working collectively to build a society where sharing is based on need. We will abolish work for wages, money and profits. Everyone will share in society's benefits and burdens.

- Communism means abolishing racism and the concept of race.

- Communism means abolishing the special oppression of women workers.

- Communism means abolishing nations and nationalism. One International working class, one world, one Party.

- Communism means the Party leads every aspect of society. For this to work, millions of workers -- eventually everyone -- must become communist organizers. Join Us!
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Could we please get this thread back to something above the elementary school playground level????

It could have been such a good thread like the last one we had on Oil Shale but.....
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Could we please get this thread back to something above the elementary school playground level????

It could have been such a good thread like the last one we had on Oil Shale but.....
I apologize. I shouldn't have replied.

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Old 08-05-08, 09:10 PM   #59
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No, you should have replied. Debate and argument are a good thing. What you shouldn't have done is to try to 'win' by belittleing your opponent. Zachstar never said he was a member of any party, yet you insisted on throwing out a 'Progressive Party' line, and telling him he didn't know what he was. You challenged him to "Google it", and yet a simple look at a dictionary would have told you what he was talking about.

pro·gres·sive /prəˈgrɛsɪv/[pruh-gres-iv]
–adjective
1.favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor.

2.making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community.

3.characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement.

4.(initial capital letter) of or pertaining to any of the Progressive parties in politics.

5.going forward or onward; passing successively from one member of a series to the next; proceeding step by step.

6.noting or pertaining to a form of taxation in which the rate increases with certain increases in taxable income.

7.of or pertaining to progressive education: progressive schools.

8.Grammar. noting a verb aspect or other verb category that indicates action or state going on at a temporal point of reference.

9.Medicine/Medical. continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease.

–noun
10.a person who is progressive or who favors progress or reform, esp. in political matters.

11.(initial capital letter) a member of a Progressive party.

12.Grammar. a.the progressive aspect. b.a verb form or construction in the progressive, as are thinking in They are thinking about it.

[Origin: 1600–10; [progress + ive]
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No, you should have replied. Debate and argument are a good thing. What you shouldn't have done is to try to 'win' by belittleing your opponent. Zachstar never said he was a member of any party, yet you insisted on throwing out a 'Progressive Party' line, and telling him he didn't know what he was. You challenged him to "Google it", and yet a simple look at a dictionary would have told you what he was talking about.

pro·gres·sive /prəˈgrɛsɪv/[pruh-gres-iv]
–adjective
1.favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor.

2.making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community.

3.characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement.

4.(initial capital letter) of or pertaining to any of the Progressive parties in politics.

5.going forward or onward; passing successively from one member of a series to the next; proceeding step by step.

6.noting or pertaining to a form of taxation in which the rate increases with certain increases in taxable income.

7.of or pertaining to progressive education: progressive schools.

8.Grammar. noting a verb aspect or other verb category that indicates action or state going on at a temporal point of reference.

9.Medicine/Medical. continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease.

–noun
10.a person who is progressive or who favors progress or reform, esp. in political matters.

11.(initial capital letter) a member of a Progressive party.

12.Grammar. a.the progressive aspect. b.a verb form or construction in the progressive, as are thinking in They are thinking about it.

[Origin: 1600–10; [progress + ive]
This stems form another thread. That is the problem.

Anyway, the word definition is nice but in no way captures the party involved.

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2.making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community.
That is about as watered down as you can get. Its like the word Communism has some sort of PC bias attached. It (progressive) is a political idea with only one meaning as shown through history. Check the wiki link above even.

Maybe this is a case of Zachstar not really knowing who he is associating with.

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