Scientific paradigm shift towards Nazism?

[heartc]

This might come as a surprise for you, but it's not just the evil "Fox News" which has a political slant to it, you know. Only difference is they (FN) are not trying to hide it, and they are in the minority in the media landscape.

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by heartc

This might come as a surprise for you, but it's not just the evil "Fox News" which has a political slant to it, you know. Only difference is they (FN) are not trying to hide it, and they are in the minority in the media landscape.

You obviously know very little about the BBC. To begin with the BBC is prohibited by strict guidelines from politically biased broadcasting as are all other UK TV channels. If Fox News was a UK news channel it would probably be off the air now. The BBC has no political agenda and is required to give a balanced view, if one political party is allowed whats known in the UK as a 'party political broadcast' then they all are to maintain balance. The BBC is respected all over the world as a reliable and impartial news broadcaster. Finally as someone who watches the BBC every day I can assure it isn't communist, its pretty establishment actually.

I can't really coment on Scientific American but from what I've seen I wouldn't call it communist either.

To say that Fox News has 'a political slant' is a bit of an understatment.

and Blacklight as you might note this thread had spun off on my other one: others who wear tinfoil hats

I too hated it when Star Ship Troopers rewrote the book. On another note I also hate other sci-fi movies that imply that aliens would use WWI air combat tactics to take over earth. Independance Day was basically a show about slow moving giant zepplins with force fields guarded by swarms of Fokkers with increased speeds and weaponary.

[heartc]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

You obviously know very little about the BBC. To begin with the BBC is prohibited by strict guidelines from politically biased broadcasting as are all other UK TV channels. If Fox News was a UK news channel it would probably be off the air now. The BBC has no political agenda and is required to give a balanced view, if one political party is allowed whats known in the UK as a 'party political broadcast' then they all are to maintain balance. The BBC is respected all over the world as a reliable and impartial news broadcaster. Finally as someone who watches the BBC every day I can assure it isn't communist, its pretty establishment actually.

I can't really coment on Scientific American but from what I've seen I wouldn't call it communist either.

To say that Fox News has 'a political slant' is a bit of an understatment.

I see the UK media has as firmly a grip on the people as their German counterpart does. The EUSSR is coming along nicely, and faster than I would have thought, indeed.

"To begin with the BBC is prohibited by strict guidelines from politically biased broadcasting as are all other UK TV channels."
"The BBC has no political agenda"

Thanks for the laugh. Do you really believe what you write?

"If Fox News was a UK news channel it would probably be off the air now."

Yes, no doubt about it. Diversity, checks and balance is always an uncomfortable thing to deal with, ain't it. BTW, have you ever watched FN or just...err...read about it in...err...your media? Just asking, because all the Fox News experts in Germany that I know have never ever seen the channel.

"Finally as someone who watches the BBC every day I can assure it isn't communist, its pretty establishment actually."

Oh, it's "establishment"? I see any further word would be pointless, but thanks for making my point.

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by heartc

I see the UK media has as firmly a grip on the people as their German counterpart does. The EUSSR is coming along nicely, and faster than I would have thought, indeed.

"To begin with the BBC is prohibited by strict guidelines from politically biased broadcasting as are all other UK TV channels."
"The BBC has no political agenda"

Thanks for the laugh. Do you really believe what you write?

"If Fox News was a UK news channel it would probably be off the air now."

Yes, no doubt about it. Diversity, checks and balance is always an uncomfortable thing to deal with, ain't it. BTW, have you ever watched FN or just...err...read about it in...err...your media? Just asking, because all the Fox News experts in Germany that I know have never ever seen the channel.

"Finally as someone who watches the BBC every day I can assure it isn't communist, its pretty establishment actually."

Oh, it's "establishment"? I see any further word would be pointless, but thanks for making my point.

You know I don't know where to start, you're either joking or paranoid I don't know which.:hmm:

Whats that line again?......'...pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.'

Think that makes my point perfectly

[DeepIron]

Acute Schizophrenia Paranoia Blues

I’m too terrified to walk out of my own front door,
They’re demonstrating outside I think they’re gonna start the third world war,
I’ve been to my local head shrinker,
To help classify my disease,
He said it’s one of the cases of acute schizophrenia he sees.

Well the milkman’s a spy, and the grocer keeps on following me,
And the woman next door’s an undercover for the k.g.b.,
And the man from the social security
Keeps on invading my privacy,
Oh there ain’t no cure for acute schizophrenia disease.

I’ve got acute schizophrenia paranoia too,
Schizophrenia, schizophrenia,
I’ve got it, you’ve got it, we can’t lose,
Acute schizophrenia blues.

I’m lost on the river, the river of no return,
I can’t make decisions, I don’t know which way I’m gonna turn,
Even my old dad, lost some of the best friends he ever had,
Apparently, his was a case of acute schizophrenia too.

I got acute schizophrenia paranoia too,
Schizophrenia, schizophrenia,
I’ve got it, you’ve got it, we can’t lose,
Acute schizophrenia blues,

They’re watching my house and they’re tapping my telephone,
I can’t trust nobody, but I’m much too scared to be on my own
And the income tax collector’s got his beady eye on me,
Oh there ain’t no cure for acute schizophrenia disease.

No there ain’t no cure for
Schizophrenia disease.

[August]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

You know I don't know where to start, you're either joking or paranoid I don't know which.:hmm:

Whats that line again?......'...pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.'

Think that makes my point perfectly

I notice that you didn't say anything to contradict his post...

[mrbeast]

I just thought it would be futile heartc has already made up his mind that the UK, BBC, well the whole of europe is in the grip of communism. Anyone who talks about the 'EUSSR' doesn't seem open to suggestions.

But just for the record.....its all about checks and balances, Fox News would be in trouble if it was a UK TV channel preciesly because it lacks them and advocates an obvious political bias. UK TV is not allowed to have this.

I'd be interested just how familiar heartc is with the British media? Or did he just hear about it on Fox News?

BTW the establishment in the UK is deciedly conservative with a small 'c'.

[August]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

I just thought it would be futile heartc has already made up his mind that the UK, BBC, well the whole of europe is in the grip of communism. Anyone who talks about the 'EUSSR' doesn't seem open to suggestions.

But just for the record.....its all about checks and balances, Fox News would be in trouble if it was a UK TV channel preciesly because it lacks them and advocates an obvious political bias. UK TV is not allowed to have this.

I'd be interested just how familiar heartc is with the British media? Or did he just hear about it on Fox News?

BTW the establishment in the UK is deciedly conservative with a small 'c'.

Maybe so but I read and listen to the Beeb all the time and i have to say that (IMHO) they are indeed as biased as any other western media organization.

[heartc]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

But just for the record.....its all about checks and balances, Fox News would be in trouble if it was a UK TV channel preciesly because it lacks them and advocates an obvious political bias. UK TV is not allowed to have this.

You don't get it. *Every* media outlet in itself *lacks* them, for it is a human-run hierarchical system, and humans are biased. If you say that is not so, then you are either intellectually dishonest, or naive and living in denial.
The only way checks and balances can get into the media landscape is by having DIFFERENT and DIVERSE media outlets. The very fact that there is some commitie making guidelines that would take a station off the air because it might broadcast what they would decide to be biased should have you worried.

But it's allright. Just give me those rose-colored glasses you wear and I'll be fine, too.

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by August

Maybe so but I read and listen to the Beeb all the time and i have to say that (IMHO) they are indeed as biased as any other western media organization.

IMO the BBC is about as impartial as you're going to get.

[heartc]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

IMO the BBC is about as impartial as you're going to get.

"IMO". So what if I just happened to not agree? What if I said that I would like to have Fox News or whatever since "it is about as impartial as you're going to get, IMO." Well, then I'm ****ed, because my channel would get censored out of the air. Because someone, somewhere, with guidelines, said that they were IHO biased, while the BBC is "as impartial as you're going to get IMO." Cool.

I happen to believe that the BBC, and in Germany "Der Spiegel", is biased, just like any outlet is, but I would be in arms if someone with guidelines would want to CENSOR them. People must be able to choose from a broad offering to form an educated opinion. The media must be held to account by checks and balances in a diverse media landscape, and by the people, not by guidelines.
Also see my posting above.

[mrbeast]

You want to fill your head full of Rupert Murdoch then go ahead nothing in the UK says that you can't watch Fox News if you want or Al Jazeera or the Iranian governments English language service if you so wish. Its UK TV channels that are regulated and hence the BBC. They are not allowed to editorialise news content in the same way a newspaper can. Fox News pushes a politcal agenda the BBC does not.

And who do you think regulates the TV in the UK? The Politbureau?

I just find your assertion that anything which you don't agree with is made by 'commies' is ridiculous.

[heartc]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

Fox News pushes a politcal agenda the BBC does not.

And I find that assertion pretty naive.

[mrbeast]

Ok and this political aganda is?