MG42s?

[McHibbins]

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Book II Chapter : "The Attack of Kapstadt and Southafrica" Page 137


"....U181 Lüth....wobei er seinen ganzen Vorrat von 355 Granaten für die 10.5cm Kanone aufbrauchte......"


Ha ! My first Thought was right

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by McHibbins

Gotcha !!!

Book II Chapter : "The Attack of Kapstadt and Southafrica" Page 137


"....U181 Lüth....wobei er seinen ganzen Vorrat von 355 Granaten für die 10.5cm Kanone aufbrauchte......"


Ha ! My first Thought was right

Excellent find Kaleun I knew I had read it in the Blair books.

Mind you....in the English text version, it's in the same volume and chapter but on on page 79

[Venatore]

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg

I found two MG42s in the conning tower but you can't use them why?

Because..........BDU hasn't seen your qualification papers

They don't want a massive 20 round burst getting let off in heavy seas within the U-boat itself

[Rango]

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by emtmedic005

Im going to get yelled at for this one but, you never saw U-571, the movie, they gun down a whole life boat full of women and children and a few guys.
plus i've read accounts where the sub would surface after sinking a warship and gunning down the crew, afterall they were trying to sink the sub.

If you can get a hold of a book called "10 years and 20 days". Its the autobiography from Karl Doenitz. He even said the willful killing of survivors was forbidden. Adm. Doentiz even went as far as to try and rescue survivors from a POW ship off the coast of AFrica that was torpedoed, and ended up getting in a lot of hot water by his higher ups for doing so. His Uboat captains FOUGHT him on his order to abandon the rescue efforts (even though under threat of getting bombed by allied bombers due to the carrying 100's of survivors on the decks of the uboat, therefore unable to submerge) .

The instances of Uboat captains ordering the shooting of survivors was VERY rare and punishable. The sad fact is that there were evil people on all sides from all countries that did things that Most leaders would not have approved of. But for the most part the common sailor, airman, soldier was a patriot in thier own minds, fighting for the honor of thier own country.

[Catfish]

Hello,
umm i thought entmedic005 meant that U-571 movie with the shooting as a joke ?!
I said there was a film from 1943 where the same happens, with Humphrey Bogart in a propaganda film. U571 is the biggest bull**** i have seen in years, and i even saw Robocop in the TV. Good example of how concocted history and propaganda is still active today.
Even if you say US commanders shot at japanese castaways this has to be seen in relation to what happened before.

Entmedic005, please get and read some books that don't parrot this propaganda sh!t.

As i and others already said there was only one incident where a german U-boat commander shot at survivors in 1945 (which certainly is one too many) but if you say it happened "often" or "regularly" please show some real evidence.

Grreetings,
Catfish

[XXi]

As for U 571... man oh man, what a bad movie that one was! As for the historical accuracy of the movie I can say only it is true that there WERE U boats in the Atlantic during the war and that would be about it.

There was only one clear case of an U Boat crew shooting deliberately at the survivors and this is the case of Eck and U 852. Apart from that, I`ve read that there are few - literally few - cases where U Boats could have been shooting at survivors. Not too much so to say. No case like that of 'Llandovery Castle' during WWI. And no case like that of 'Mush' Morton and 'Wahoo'