Not even a game, let alone a sim

[gollum31548]

Sorry Captains, just installed the 1.2 patch, started a new career and was ordered to photograph enemy carriers. In Manila. On 10 December 1941. I don't much care about eye candy, but anything calling itself a simualtion should, at least, simulate the conflct, should't it ?

I think I am gonna shelve this one until about patch 1.4 and hope it gets better

[Dane]

Your choice, this life is not all about killing, reference the Virginia episode

[AVGWarhawk]

I believe it is more a 'simulation' type game. It is not a 100% true simulation and probably will never be. Will the modders get it close to RL as possible? You bet'cha. From what I have seen dispite the quirks of some patrols, it is very good.

[TriskettheKid]

Yeah, seriously.

How can they call this a simulation if they don't even have a toilet? Disgraceful, Ubi. Disgraceful.

[FIREWALL]

WoW!!! This has been so beaten into the ground. Wait till about 12-2008
about the same time GWX was released for SH-3 [ 12-06 ] and lets see how we feel then. And see what has been done to SH-4.

Neal Keep a collection of a variety of these posts and publish them then.

[Ducimus]

As realism mods go, unless a new mod group emerges, i think about the best your going to see is Berry's "Real Fleet boat". Im sure the GWX team will look at SH4 eventually, but they've already made it abundantly clear their into uboats and the Atlantic, and not interested in fleet boats and the pacfic. So right now your money's riding on Berry.

[Duke_Wellington_1st]

This game ISNT a simulation at present , and nor should we have to rely on 3rd party developers to make it so.

This game belongs on XBOX at present, only - console players wouldnt defend an unfinished product with bugs, AI that dont respond to you and a litany of problems that stop this from being a naval sim.

crap verging on a discrace.

[captainFlunky]

I guess it's what you are looking for. It's a hobby like building model airplanes or birdwatching- purely recreational. And if it doesn't do it for you or it makes you frustrated one way or another, don't play it.

[Aimbot]

Originally Posted by Duke_Wellington_1st

This game ISNT a simulation at present , and nor should we have to rely on 3rd party developers to make it so.

This game belongs on XBOX at present, only - console players wouldnt defend an unfinished product with bugs, AI that dont respond to you and a litany of problems that stop this from being a naval sim.

crap verging on a discrace.

People who say **** like that have never owned a console. Most console games have their fair share of bugs. The difference is that, until the 360's (the current generation of the xbox, champ) downloadable content the bugs were there for life, unless of course the game sold well enough for a special edition that would cost another 30$.

[joea]

Originally Posted by gollum31548

Sorry Captains, just installed the 1.2 patch, started a new career and was ordered to photograph enemy carriers. In Manila. On 10 December 1941. I don't much care about eye candy, but anything calling itself a simualtion should, at least, simulate the conflct, should't it ?

I think I am gonna shelve this one until about patch 1.4 and hope it gets better

Well sorry but the stock campaign in SH3 was as unrealistic as it seems SH4 is. This is up to the modders to change. I think we forget that sims and games can be realistic in one area and not another. IMHO, a sim needs a balance in graphics, physics (including weapons and damage modelling), environment, and what your are talking about historical context. SH3 with GWX is currently at a stage with a good balance.