Is there an exhaust mod?

GoldenRivet · 04-16-07, 05:31 PM

I have noticed in several photos and books and movies the very light exhaust smoke coming from the stern of the U-boats especially when the diesels are turning out high RPM. its not a lot, but it is noticable.

Is there a mod that models this U-boat exhaust?

I think it would be a hard mod to work on since all the exhaust smoke in the game tends to be about the same size and thickness... but from the U-boats its about the size and thickness as from a mack truck or something. not like the smoke we see chruning out of merchant smoke stacks.

anyone know about it?

04-16-07, 07:09 PM

I'll just say this.
It can be done.
It's not hard.
And FPS would not be hit to hard at all.
But how many want it?

nfitzsimmons · 04-16-07, 08:55 PM

Making it so that it's affected by wind speed and direction might be a challenge.

04-16-07, 09:10 PM

It could be affected same as ships smoke.
No more, no less.

Raus · 04-16-07, 09:27 PM

Someone should do it. I was actually just thinking about this. I would definitely use it.

nativetexan · 04-16-07, 09:51 PM

Definitely something I would like to have!

nfitzsimmons · 04-17-07, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

It could be affected same as ships smoke.
No more, no less.

Doh! Excellent point! That hadn't occured to me. Too early in the day, I guess. Besides, I've been downloading the SHIV 1.2 patch and waiting for opinions on it.

I'll probably install that tonight, then go back to my VIIB patrol.

GoldenRivet · 04-17-07, 09:45 AM

just watch the movie das boot. it should be a small opening on the deck on the port side just astern of the watch tower by about 10 - 12 feet.

Rubini · 04-20-07, 02:43 PM

Good work Privateer!

As Sergs said this smoke can't be so much visible. But will be great to have a very discrete one that could be a bit more noticiable (only a bit) when the uboat is in "high" speed surfaced! The colour must be a white gray I guess.
The trick is to make the smoke only a slight noticeable one.
This will be a great addition to sim feeling.

GoldenRivet · 04-20-07, 02:49 PM

see here... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...874#post506874

one video shows a very brief split second filming of the aft of the sub as they increase speed to chase a sighted ship... if you look closely you can see a puff of exhaust smoke.

04-20-07, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

see here... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...874#post506874

one video shows a very brief split second filming of the aft of the sub as they increase speed to chase a sighted ship... if you look closely you can see a puff of exhaust smoke.

Good link!
I watched it several times and spotted smoke several times.
Mostly a very light haze with a heat distorsion around the exhaust area.
Should be easy to simulate this effect.

This could also be done in several versions so a random damage could
cause a heavyer smokeing engine?

As for AI spotting it, not as is at the moment.
I'm sure at could be "Cheated in" if you will.
But I don't think smoke was much of a factor in spotting U-Boats
in WWII?

GoldenRivet · 04-20-07, 03:50 PM

I seriously doubt if smoke was a large factor in spotting the U-boats

firstly... the U-boat exhaust smoke is very light even when the engine is turning out a lot of power

secondly, the u-boat has such a low profile in the water you would likley spot another ships smoke LONG before they spotted yours.

04-20-07, 04:03 PM

Exactly.
If AI was to be a factor, it should only be done
if a damaged engine effect was used.

Then spareingly.

capt-jones · 04-20-07, 04:10 PM

i drive heavy earthmoving diesel machinery for a liveing anything up too 400 tonnes and the only time a diesel will smoke is when you open the throttle there is a cloud of black smoke until it reaches maximum revs then the smoke disappears after about 2 seconds ,diesels are not dirty smelly machine that we have come too believe in fact they are very powerful at low revs they have lots of torque and very fuel efficient for thier size hence ships lorries trains cars .white smoke is unburnt fuel e.g . when starting a worn engine there is a lot of white smoke until engine warms up blue smoke is also a worn enigine that is burning oil

i hope this helps and goog luck with the mod "smoke is good people who smoke is bad":rotfl:

04-16-07, 05:31 PM	#1
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Is there an exhaust mod? I have noticed in several photos and books and movies the very light exhaust smoke coming from the stern of the U-boats especially when the diesels are turning out high RPM. its not a lot, but it is noticable. Is there a mod that models this U-boat exhaust? I think it would be a hard mod to work on since all the exhaust smoke in the game tends to be about the same size and thickness... but from the U-boats its about the size and thickness as from a mack truck or something. not like the smoke we see chruning out of merchant smoke stacks. anyone know about it?

04-20-07, 02:43 PM	#9
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Good work Privateer! As Sergs said this smoke can't be so much visible. But will be great to have a very discrete one that could be a bit more noticiable (only a bit) when the uboat is in "high" speed surfaced! The colour must be a white gray I guess. The trick is to make the smoke only a slight noticeable one. This will be a great addition to sim feeling. __________________ One gamer's must-have mod is another gamer's waste of time. -Sailor Steve

04-16-07, 07:09 PM	#2
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'll just say this. It can be done. It's not hard. And FPS would not be hit to hard at all. But how many want it?

04-16-07, 08:55 PM	#3
nfitzsimmons Planesman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 180 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Making it so that it's affected by wind speed and direction might be a challenge.

04-16-07, 09:10 PM	#4
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	It could be affected same as ships smoke. No more, no less.

04-16-07, 09:27 PM	#5
Raus A-ganger Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 79 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Someone should do it. I was actually just thinking about this. I would definitely use it.

04-16-07, 09:51 PM	#6
nativetexan Watch Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Texas, USA Posts: 26 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Definitely something I would like to have!

04-17-07, 09:45 AM	#8
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	just watch the movie das boot. it should be a small opening on the deck on the port side just astern of the watch tower by about 10 - 12 feet.

04-20-07, 02:49 PM	#10
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	see here... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...874#post506874 one video shows a very brief split second filming of the aft of the sub as they increase speed to chase a sighted ship... if you look closely you can see a puff of exhaust smoke.

04-20-07, 03:50 PM	#12
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I seriously doubt if smoke was a large factor in spotting the U-boats firstly... the U-boat exhaust smoke is very light even when the engine is turning out a lot of power secondly, the u-boat has such a low profile in the water you would likley spot another ships smoke LONG before they spotted yours.

04-20-07, 04:03 PM	#13
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Exactly. If AI was to be a factor, it should only be done if a damaged engine effect was used. Then spareingly.

04-20-07, 04:10 PM	#14
capt-jones Helmsman Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 109 Downloads: 328 Uploads: 0	i drive heavy earthmoving diesel machinery for a liveing anything up too 400 tonnes and the only time a diesel will smoke is when you open the throttle there is a cloud of black smoke until it reaches maximum revs then the smoke disappears after about 2 seconds ,diesels are not dirty smelly machine that we have come too believe in fact they are very powerful at low revs they have lots of torque and very fuel efficient for thier size hence ships lorries trains cars .white smoke is unburnt fuel e.g . when starting a worn engine there is a lot of white smoke until engine warms up blue smoke is also a worn enigine that is burning oil i hope this helps and goog luck with the mod "smoke is good people who smoke is bad":rotfl: