Wuhan virus 2020

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by ET2SN

That's still the plan.

The neighbor we lost was only two doors away from my place. That was last summer and I'm 90% sure I got a very mild dose out of it. Testing was a bit "spotty" in Iowa at the time, so I treated it like it was 100% and hunkered down for two weeks.

The rules for avoiding this thing are still pretty easy.

-Wear a mask to protect others in case you screw up.

-Try to maintain 6ft/2m distance from everyone.

-Wash your face and hands with soap and water a couple of times each day.

-Otherwise, do all you can to stay healthy. That means not rolling around in a snow drift while wearing only a tee shirt and gym shorts (you'd be surprised that I'm not kidding) and in my case, I have a prescription for an anti-biotic that I take "off label" for fatigue due to MS. An anti-biotic is NOT an anti-viral. I'm just stacking the odds as best as I can and I'm supposed to take these things anyway.

-Eat a healthy diet and get 8 hours of sleep per day. "Dominos" is not eating healthy. Be honest with yourself, if you need to lose weight or tone muscles this is the best invite you're ever going to get. I've had pizza for dinner THREE times since last spring.

Vitamine D, K2, Magnesium.

I know I sound like a worn-out old record, but I cvannot help it! The studies - and numbers from them - by now are crystal clear. The correlation between serious and lethal cases of Covid-19 in elder people, and Vit-D deficiency, is nothing but OVERWHELMING. Only fools still argue on that.

Various studies found and find elder people with deficiency in Vit-D having a 5-50 times as high risk to die from it, than same aged patients with minimum sufficiency in Vit-D levels. It gets even better with optimal levels.

You are extremely unlikely to get the wanted levels from sun exposure or healthy food. And excercising has nothing to do with it at all.

I played this worn-out record several times in this thread over the year. If you missed it, look it up. Might make the difference for you one day, in case you get bitten by the bug.

50-80 I.U. of Vit-D per kilogram body weight.

The heavier and/or fatter you are, the more you want to take. Consider an initial flooding phase of 2-4 weeks where you even take four times that value according to the formula above. Instead of later taking just 5000IE, consider taking 20,000 for 2 or 3 weeks. Then go to the lower maintenance dose.

Vitamine D is not really a vitamine, but a pro-hormone. Thats why it is so incredibly versatile and has omni-access to cells throughout the body.

K2 to safeguard against hypercalcemia (unlikely to form up anyway at trhese low consummation levels, but be safe, it has no known toxic upper intake level). Magnesium to actually activate the pre-form of active Vit-.D into active Vitamine-D.

[Skybird]

Take this as a reminder.


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/29/u...rnd/index.html

[ET2SN]

Skybird; I have MS, I've been taking Vit D3 for the last 12 years. I even get my levels tested once a year.

[Skybird]

Ah, good! The vit-D I mean, not the MS.

Any chance you undergo the so-called Coimbra protocol? Heard of it at least? If not you might want to change that.

If not, you might be interested to check it out, but not without your healthcare professional, the doses used in it are beyond what a layman should try all alone, and by factors so, so expert and laboratory surveillance are abvsolkutely mandatory. It reaches up to 300,000 IEs - per day. It needs an supervising expert trained in the protocol, the doses used are monstrous, and for healthy people would be toxic.

For all others,
Cicero Coimbra is a Brazilian doctor who treats autoimmune deseases with megadoses of Vitamine-D, and quite successfully. He started it in the 90s already.

https://www.coimbraprotocol.com/the-protocol-1


This is Coimbra, a speech he held at a German conference, but he spoke in English, so get to the point where the German introduction ends.






I read the Coimbra protocol is not very popular and not much known in the US. A study was done in Germany however, the results can be listened to in this conference lesson. The doctor is a trained Coimbra protocol specialist and nutrition expert, he took the data he reports from his own practice. He was the first one getting me embarked on the salt train.






Try if it makes sense to run the auto-translated English subtitles.

[ET2SN]

Trust me, I have a good medical team looking out for me and I'm pro-active in how I deal with it.

I did the D3 "mega dose" trial back in 2010 or 2011 for something like two months. The doctors looked at the data and I didn't feel much different but at least my D levels were "normal".

Please be careful with the "one size fits all" medical dogma. I know you mean well but its rarely that simple. I know about all kinds of miracles and cure-alls that fizzled out, trust me.

If you want to tell me about Interferon beta, I've been injecting it for over 11 years.

[Skybird]

I did not mean to throw you into a one size fits all sort of trial, and I dont know your history, I just wanted this option being brought to your attention in case you never have heard of it. Coimbra rejected so far to hold clinical trials with control groups due to ethical reasons, he says he cannot justify it to NOT put a patient of his on high doses of Vit D. That is the old problem with clinical trials, of course: while it is desirable form a methodological point of view to have a control group that does not get a treatment from which it could benefit, ethically it is difficult to justify to withhold a possible positive treatment from patients as long as they do not volunteer not to get treated.

I only know one person in my imminent surrounding who had Hashimoto, and he experienced a full remission not due to iodine but undergoing the Coimbra protocol. As you indicated for wehat you have done back then, those two months of using Vitamine D, you can find diverse feedbacks on Coimbra protocol, treatment, however. Some people also lost all their symptoms under Coimbra, others only had more modest successes. When somebody suffers from autoimmune desease of any kind, I only say that checking this option out as well, might be worth it - though not necessarily for all, maybe. What heals, is right, no matter what that individual method is for a given person. Autoimmune deseases can have a genetical factor, but they also can have a purely causal origin in behaviour, food, etc, oyu cna also trigger them by bad food behaviour or ill-choosen drugs. In case of non-genetical dispositions I would expect to learn that they are more responsive to the matching treatment than those cases with genetical causes.

Anyway, hope you do not mind me bringing it all up. Just wanted to make sure you at least know that this option even exists, more I say not.

https://www.coimbraprotocol.com/general-information

Please note that callibrating the therapy lasts around two YEARS, they say in the above link. What they did with you tne years ago, probbaly wa snot Coimbvra protiocal-style treatment. It takes time.

I also understood over the going of this year and my reading on such things, that many studies claimign that this or that does not work, especial when it is about alternative medical treatements, often have used doses of lets say a vitmaine or mienral or whatever that were so low or the timeframes were so short that therapeuitcal effects had not to be expected from beginning on. My suspicion sometimes even was that the purpose of thre study was just to produce evidence just for this conlcusion. Reporting bias it is called, can work for a bias to report only findings formulated as that something works (a new phamraceutical drug), or can be a bias for reporting only things that were shown to not work: supplementsa often are victim of this. Its often economical interest-depending.

And I know nothing about interferone, I am no doctor, just a layman who drove his nose deep into vitamine d and other nutrients this year. And it did me good. Only on these things I learned some things and have red about.

[Onkel Neal]

Ah, Buddahaid, you beat me to it, I have called my doctor and they "don't know when or if they will be getting the vaccine for their patients". They suggested I check with the local pharmacies.

[Jimbuna]

The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has been approved for use in the UK, with the first doses due to be given on Monday amid rising coronavirus cases.

The UK has ordered 100 million doses - enough to vaccinate 50 million people.

This would cover the entire population when combined with the full order of the Pfizer-BioNTech jab, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said.

It comes as millions more people in England are expected to be the toughest tier four restrictions.

Vaccination centres will now start inviting patients to come and get the jab from next week.

Priority groups for immunisation have already been identified, starting with care home residents, the over-80s, and health and care workers.

Eventually all over 50s and younger adults with health conditions will be offered a jab in the first phase of rollout - more than 25 million people in total.

It is hoped that about two million patients a week could soon be vaccinated with two vaccines now approved.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55280671

Hopefully we can now take the fight to the virus.

[Jimbuna]

The UK approves the vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and manufactured by AstraZeneca
It is considered a game-changer as it does not have to be stored at very low temperatures.

People will start receiving the jab on 4 January, says the UK's health secretary.

It is the second jab to be deemed safe in the UK, following the Pfizer-BioNTech roll-out earlier in December.

Millions of people in England will hear later if they will move into a higher tier of restrictions.

Education Secretary Gavin Williamson will make a statement later about the return of schools in England in January.

A major incident is declared Essex in south-east England amid fears Covid cases could overwhelm its health services.

The US reports its first known case of highly infectious Covid-19 variant first found in the UK

Nearly 500,000 in the Chinese city of Wuhan may have had virus, according to a new study.

[Jimbuna]

Germany has recorded more than 1,000 coronavirus-related deaths in a day for the first time. A total of 1,129 deaths were reported by the Robert Koch Institute for infectious diseases. It came as officials warned that lockdown restrictions could be extended beyond 10 January.

Portugal's Prime Minister António Costa is ending a 14-day period of isolation, following a negative result from a Covid-19 test, his office said in a statement. The politician began isolating after French President Emmanuel Macron tested positive for coronavirus, the day after the two men had a meeting in Paris.

Health authorities in Switzerland have confirmed that an elderly person vaccinated against Covid-19 has subsequently died. A spokesperson for the canton of Lucerne provided no details as to whether the death could be connected to the vaccination, but said the case had been referred to Switzerland’s drugs regulatory body.

Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte says he has ruled out making coronavirus vaccines mandatory, but is confident there will be large-scale demand for the jabs, Reuters news agency reports.

Chinese state-owned company Sinopharm has announced that a coronavirus vaccine it is developing is 79% effective, and said it has applied for regulatory approval.

[Jimbuna]

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Ah, Buddahaid, you beat me to it, I have called my doctor and they "don't know when or if they will be getting the vaccine for their patients". They suggested I check with the local pharmacies.

One shot doesn't do it Neal ... need both shots to work

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/va...?ocid=BingNews


Vaccinated US nurse contracts COVID-19

(Reuters) - A nurse in California tested positive for COVID-19 more than a week after receiving Pfizer Inc's vaccine, an ABC News affiliate reported https://bit.ly/2L8iBel on Tuesday, but a medical expert said the body needs more time to build up protection.

[Jimbuna]

The UK has recorded a dramatic jump to more than 53,000 Covid-19 cases – its biggest ever daily case count, one day after it crossed 40,000 cases for the first time.

Cases have been on the rise as the fast-spreading variant of the coronavirus makes its presence felt. The UK recorded 53,135 new daily infections, as well as 414 deaths.

While the high numbers may be in part due to a lag in the data that was not reported in full over the Christmas period, Public Health England said the figures were “largely a reflection of a real increase”.

[Jimbuna]

[Skybird]

Germany has had a more sub-optimal start of its vaccination campaign than one would have expected of the well-organised Germans. After their ambition to start in line with EU- wide timetables, they now have bogged down already with having messed up procurement of the drug and nl w stopping in places due to having run out of the jabs already. At the same time the EU insists that they only use a Biontech-Pfizer flask for arming five injections, although one such flask has enough content for arming six, even seven. The EU wants it to be thrown away. German media say that at the current speed Germany will need seven years to vaccinate the population.



Meanwhile it also shows that leaving organisation of procurement to the superior experts of the EU commission, messed it up with nationalistic cronyism namely by France who. Wanted to protect financial inter ests of the French vaccination drug by Sanofi.



At least they have had tbeir precious moment of - claimed but non-existent - unity. Nobody cares for that value, but the phrase has a glorious thunder in its echo, and some politicians shone out their narcissistic and PR-craving ego again. Meanwhile death rates in Germany are gallopping. Every 95 seconds one patient dies of Covid19.