US Politics Thread 2021-24

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by August

Why should he have to prove anything to the likes of you? FWIW it's far tamer than what the German members of this very forum have been spewing against Trump these past 4 years. Maybe someone ought to inform German authorities of this hate speech by their nationals?

Regardless of where they live, people who have a dislike for Trump's presidency can't even articulate what they're upset about.

"He put kids in cages!" No - Obama did that.

"He colluded with Russia!!" No - Hillary did that.

"He obstructed an investigation!!!" No - Schumer and Pelosi did that.

"He did a quid pro quo with Ukraine!!!11!" No - Biden did that.

"He wrote mean tweets!". Yep - he surely did write tweets designed to trigger and enrage the left - and I thoroughly enjoyed every one of them.

[Sonicfire1981]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

Regardless of where they live, people who have a dislike for Trump's presidency can't even articulate what they're upset about.

Yes they can. you just fail to aknowledge this. once called out and presented with facts, it gets suspiciously silent. watch:

"He put kids in cages!" No - Obama did that.

Wrong. The Obama administration built the facility to improve the situation in overcrowded border-patrol-detention-cells. The wirefence inside was meant to separate various groups from each other. separation of families happened only during the trump administration.

"He colluded with Russia!!" No - Hillary did that.

wrong. read the mueller-report. and I'm not talking about the Barr-Take.

"He obstructed an investigation!!!" No - Schumer and Pelosi did that.

Don't know if still wrong, or again. read the mueller report.

"He did a quid pro quo with Ukraine!!!11!" No - Biden did that.

Because Guilliani produced a laptop and claimed it was Hunter Bidens? Right before the debate of the candidates? sounds legit. You could bring us up to speed with the actual proof. Meanwhile we could do a little "whatabout: trump paid more taxes in china than in the US. because he's deep in debt & his endeavours fail to make any profit". Oh right, we don't do those.

"He wrote mean tweets!". Yep - he surely did write tweets designed to trigger and enrage the left - and I thoroughly enjoyed every one of them.

He incited a mob to storm the capital and put the VPs life as well of many others in acute danger. Even if he had no intention & no idea that such a thing could happen (which sounds hardly believable, given he's the greatest president of all times and knows more about crowds than anybody else), its grossly negligent.

Don't you have any real conspiracies to share?

Edit:

[...]Something about how every american now has more money because of the fantastic tax cuts he did for everyone, and by far not only for the richest
I'm just too lazy to go back and look who exactly came up with this nonsense

Here's the "Taxcuts for everyone". I took the liberty of marking the average american income with a red line.

[bstanko6]

it must be nice not living in this US and having so much to say.

In fact, all of these other country political analysts have gotten so much wrong, and believed so much of it, the left would be proud.

Sonic... what are you? ex East German resident? I ask because there is no way you would agree whats going on in the states unless you are communist bound.

[Buddahaid]

Oops.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55963121

[Sonicfire1981]

Originally Posted by bstanko6

Sonic... what are you? ex East German resident? I ask because there is no way you would agree whats going on in the states unless you are communist bound.

I'm ex mossad, used to work for the Austrian Military Secret Service (HNA - those with the exploding trees), but do mostly freelance work nowadays. Why do you ask?

I fail to see what communism has to do with anything here, and I believe neither do you.

[bstanko6]

YIU ARE A LIAR SONIC!!!!!

If you were truly mussad you know exactly who built those facilities for the illegals. It wasn’t Trump, and Obama separates them in cages!! I know this for a fact, because when Arizona put in lawsuits against the federal government for not taking care of the illegal immigrant issue, we were sending immigrants to jail and back over the border from those facilities as quickly as we could because of Obama’s order!!!!

Either you’re ignorant, or you are a huge liar!!!! I call you out!!!

[bstanko6]

Obama separates the kids and families!!!!

You don’t live here, you have no right to lie about what happens here in this country.

I know this because I had to process those people

[Sonicfire1981]

Originally Posted by bstanko6

YIU ARE A LIAR SONIC!!!!!

If you were truly mussad you know exactly who built those facilities for the illegals. It wasn’t Trump, and Obama separates them in cages!! I know this for a fact, because when Arizona put in lawsuits against the federal government for not taking care of the illegal immigrant issue, we were sending immigrants to jail and back over the border from those facilities as quickly as we could because of Obama’s order!!!!

Either you’re ignorant, or you are a huge liar!!!! I call you out!!!

I so hoped we could talk about communism, but instead you get hung up on not reading my remarks properly. It's frustrating, at times.

[Onkel Neal]

Closing this topic for the weekend.

[Onkel Neal]

Ok, let's try this again.

Let's remember to take a second before replying and keep our cool. I know, it can be frustrating sometimes, but this thread is for discussing US politics and there are going to be a wide range of opinions. Feel free to argue your point, just do it without launching personal attacks - - because when one person starts it, then everyone joins in and where will that lead us?

thanks,
Neal

[Skybird]

An illustration for why I think the "Grand Orange Party" has put traditional Reds on the red list of species endangered by extinction. The party is driven by fear and does not dare to break ties with its old nemesis. Orange has and will further take over the red.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire..._live_hero_hed


Edit:

"Impeachment? Better not..."

(Der Tagesspiegel)

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Skybird

An illustration for why I think the "Grand Orange Party" has put traditional Reds on the red list of species endangered by extinction. The party is driven by fear and does not dare to break ties with its old nemesis. Orange has and will further take over the red.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire..._live_hero_hed


Edit:

"Impeachment? Better not..."

(Der Tagesspiegel)

I think that the GOP realizes they screwed up - the dinosaurs in the party are in a uniparty with their Dem counterparts and just want to go back to looting and pillaging their citizenry like they did before Trump. The ones who support Trump believe in the idea of politicians who look out for their citizens' interests over their own and would happily destroy the GOP to get there job done. The rest are caught in the middle with no idea which way to turn because they've been conditioned over their years in office that the GOP is supposed to be the "polite" party and take their losses even if those losses are due to cheating by their opponents.

[Jimbuna]

There are more than a few on here who thought otherwise I suspect.

US President Joe Biden says he will not lift economic sanctions against Iran until it complies with the terms agreed under a 2015 nuclear deal.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55972619

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

There are more than a few on here who thought otherwise I suspect.

Translation: "Give me time to put together a pallet of money bigger than the one we gave you when Obama was in office."

[Sonicfire1981]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

[...]just want to go back to looting and pillaging their citizenry like they did before Trump. The ones who support Trump believe in the idea of politicians who look out for their citizens' interests over their own [...]

Is this backed by anything or are you just saying this because it sounds nice? I have never seen someone shovelling public funds into their own pocket more openly like the president-reject.