Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Aye but only until the Russian population get to know the true figures.

Or they see themselves even more as victims of Western imperialism and rally even further around Putin'S narrative.



The output of tanks by Russian factories, new or refurbished does not matter, is much higher than just 200, btw. Add another 1 before that number so that it has 4 digits and not three, and you get closer to the real dimension of present output.



By the end of the day, the only relevant thing for the battlefield is this: that Russians conutne to pump troops and equipment into the frontline sectors., How they can do it, is of no real interest currently since Russian production still is not allowed to get bombed with Western weapons anyway, and Ukraine'S self-made options to try that are extremely limited.



I would not mind to see the Russian army getting further degraded, its just that there is a price for that: the ongoing destruction of Ukraine. Thats no winning strategy, but a self-destruction strategy. Oh, wait, I forgot: Ukraine is not really "us", its just "them".



German military top staff expects Russia to be able to have rebuild its forces in 5- 6 years for achieving the ability to attack NATO countries with confidence. They must have their reasons for that assessment.

[mapuc]

Markus

[mapuc]

Markus

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Trump: There is "little progress" on resolving war in Ukraine

Ah. What about ending it in a day then.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Ah. What about ending it in a day then.

Yep

[Jimbuna]

[Dargo]

In March 2022, Russia occupied approximately 30% of Ukraine, but nearly three years later, it now holds only about 20%. This reduction has come at the expense of huge figures in casualties, significant lose in equipment, significant mobilization efforts, and a devastated economy. Russia has also faced setbacks on the global stage. Finland and Sweden have joined NATO, Armenia has been attacked by Azerbaijan is set to exit the CSTO, the Assad regime has collapsed. Overall, Russia is overstretched. Nearly three years into the full-scale invasion, Russia has failed to capture any of the 23 regional capitals and cities with special status that Ukraine controlled at the onset of the invasion. 0/23! What a pathetic failure! Russia's economy is overheating and cannot sustain the current pace indefinitely. Russia is extremely unlikely to achieve its initial strategic goals in Ukraine, and Putin will have failed, regardless of how propaganda frames this failure as a victory.

Poverty rising, food shortages, high inflation, ruble devaluation, infrastructure problems resulting in sewage fountains, interest rates 21% heading, strikes all across Russia. Yes, Russia's performance is unprecedented. Keep on going. Putin

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[Raf1394]

The Russian government will kinda look for revenge, or the Russian military. But imagine if the roles were changed. And the Russians assassinated a Ukrainian general out in Kyiv. The whole world would cry out that the Russians are evil, and don't take the safety of people around that area for real...

''innocent children could have died''.

What would the reaction be if some innocent Russian kid in that area also got hit by schrapnel?

War always has two sides.

[Dargo]

Revenge? Russia attacks Ukraine cities/civilians daily, that not enough to quell revenge. Ukraine is used to this, it is their normal.

[mapuc]

Will this be the war where the combatants goes from boots on the ground to autonomous warfare ?



Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Raf1394

War always has two sides.

Russia planned to assassinate the whole Ukrainian leadership in their early drive - or attempt of - for Kyiv in February 2022. It were Western intel services - and rumored: Western commandos - assisting the Ukrainian government to escape that fate.



Russia is the aggressor, the invader, the villain in all this, do not forget this. Ulkraine is its victim that now must fight for its mere survival. And the general who got killed, conducted chemical attacks both on troops and civilians wihtout discriminating, and was one of the hardliners amongst the fascists in the Kremlin.


Don't put the victim of the Russian invasion and the perpetrator conducting it on the same level. They are not the same.

[Skybird]

[FOCUS] Ukrainian soldiers are said to have spied on the movements of F-16 fighter jets and other military secrets for Russia. Four members of the army were arrested in the Dnipropetrovsk region, according to the Ukrainian General Prosecutor's Office in Kiev.

A soldier with pro-Russian convictions is considered the main suspect. He had recruited three comrades to gather information. He pretended to them that he was working for Ukrainian intelligence services. The SBU intelligence service even spoke of a network of twelve people. Some of them had deserted the army. There was no independent confirmation of this information.

Where the few US-made Western F-16s are stationed and deployed is one of Ukraine's most important military secrets. Russia repeatedly hunts down the aircraft with missile attacks on air bases such as Starokostyantyniv in western Ukraine.
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In times of war like these, treason of this kind probably means court martial and firing squad.

[les green01]

Originally Posted by Raf1394

The Russian government will kinda look for revenge, or the Russian military. But imagine if the roles were changed. And the Russians assassinated a Ukrainian general out in Kyiv. The whole world would cry out that the Russians are evil, and don't take the safety of people around that area for real...

''innocent children could have died''.

What would the reaction be if some innocent Russian kid in that area also got hit by schrapnel?

War always has two sides.

How many kids been blown up by the ruskies or maybe froze to death because they don't have heat or power maybe the Russian civilians get the same taste they put Putin out I had a friend who sent me pictures of Ukraine dead children some was missing heads some badly burnt some of them pics would probably made you throw up