Here we go again-Ukraine once again - Page 375

Dargo · 08-13-22, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Somebody should tell him that his army is in terrible shape, any dream of recreating great Russia empire will not come true. Not with the army he has today.

Markus

If they can not see that themselves, I can not see anyone making that clear not only the army but the rest under their leadership is in shambles

mapuc · 08-13-22, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Yep, but I imagine that telling him something like that would probably earn you a one way ticket to Siberia. Guess that is an inherent problem for tyrants. Everybody around them is just too scared to tell them when they have a bad idea.

Well according to a Danish newspaper some Russian billionair have said the war in Ukraine is a big mistake and he compare Putin with Hitler.

When I read it I thought-Oh man one way ticket to Gulag is on its way.
Or he suddenly becomes very ill

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Found the article

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The majority of high-profile people in the country have remained silent over the war, avoiding criticism of the Kremlin.

There is one simple explanation, according to Mr Mints: "They are all afraid."

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62037169
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Markus

mapuc · 08-13-22, 05:38 PM

Latest news from Ukraine

Sorry for the f-word in the picture

Markus

Dargo · 08-13-22, 05:41 PM

Reports are circulating that Kherson’s occupation leadership fled south over the Dnieper River as Ukrainians strangle fragile supply lines. The Russian frontline in Kherson may be on its last legs as Ukrainian forces continue their counteroffensive toward the Dnieper River.

Previous Ukrainian attacks crippled both main bridges near the occupied city and the road crossing upriver at the Nova Kakhovka hydroelectric plant. Despite the Russians’ confounding use of radar reflectors near the bridges, subsequent strikes have occupied forces reliant on ferries to keep supplies and personnel moving, if barely at all. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...pply-nightmare

Skybird · 08-13-22, 05:55 PM

Ukraine is in danger to lose the war due to the economy not being able to support the war any longer, says a study by the Centre for Economic Policy Research.

https://cepr.org/system/files/2022-0...dResponse2.pdf

If the country continues to operate as it has been, "a major crisis will occur that will devastate Ukraine's ability to sustain its war effort over an extended period of time." In other words, Ukraine will lose this war unless it can improve its economic situation.

For example, the widespread destruction of the country's once strong steel production and major oil refineries by Russian missiles, as well as blockades of Ukrainian ports, have led to a drastic decline in economic output. Exporting sectors in particular have been affected, he said. In addition, many industrial construction projects have been frozen, further burdening the economy in the country.

Meanwhile, the labor market is under enormous pressure. According to estimates by the National Bank of Ukraine (NBU), more than one million workers have been laid off, and more than half of companies have cut wages since the war began, in some cases by up to 50 percent. The unemployment rate was estimated at 35 percent in June 2022. The bright spot at the moment is the IT sector, which remains strong.
These measures are intended to strengthen the economy in Ukraine:

The country needs to mobilize more resources in light of this desolate economic situation to pay for the enormous military expenditures and help the war-affected population, the study authors write. In doing so, they go on to outline measures that should put Ukraine's economy on a sustainable course for the duration of the war.

1. drastic tax increases

Among the proposals are drastic tax increases , ideally easily administered. In addition to taxing luxury goods more heavily, the authors suggest making people with high incomes pay more. The government should "make taxes more progressive so that the burden of war falls more heavily on those with more resources. This is desirable both for reasons of justice and social solidarity," it says. Currently, Ukraine has a flat income tax with a rate of 18 percent. However, exceptions and loopholes would also have to be examined and closed.

2. significantly reduce expenditures

With regard to government spending, " prudence and restraint should be the guiding principles." Therefore, the researchers suggest, for example, postponing regular maintenance of roads, bridges and other infrastructure until the war is over.

They also believe that financial support for refugees and internally displaced persons should be reorganized. Currently, they receive a kind of basic income. "While this approach was appropriate in the first chaotic days of the war, the cost of basic income is high," they argue. There would be no distinction between vulnerable and relatively wealthy refugees. In the future, the basic income should be linked, for example, to finding a job and doing public work.

Ukraine could save further by "transferring the cost of some services , normally borne by the public sector, to external parties." Doctors Without Borders could provide basic medical care, while the United Nations (UN) and the Red Cross provide and pay for medical supplies. Expenditures for cultural programs, such as the protection of museums and galleries, on the other hand, could be borne by international organizations and NGOs. For this, Ukraine should turn to and appeal to its allies in the West.

3. print less money and liberalize the market

The researchers are also critical of the fact that Ukraine is printing more and more money in order to be able to continue financing military expenditures. The danger is too great that the economy will be devastated by high inflation as a result.

Instead, the economy should be heavily deregulated, for example, by reducing bureaucratic hurdles. "As a result of the Russian invasion, there is currently little to no economic activity in some sectors and areas of Ukraine. The resources that are freed up need to be deployed elsewhere, and government policies should facilitate this redistribution of resources on a large scale," they explain.

The government had indeed encouraged companies to relocate to western Ukraine, where security risks are lower. However, this political call has had "only modest effects" so far. For example, fewer than 1,000 companies have relocated so far, he said. "This problem can be addressed by radical liberalization of markets," the experts advise. As part of this, they also suggest that the government appoint a high-ranking official (e.g., a "deregulation chief") to coordinate and drive deregulation.

4. appoint administrators for Russian assets in the country.

Since the beginning of the war, Ukraine has seized assets from companies and individuals who worked for the Russian side. "Liquidating these assets will likely take some time and generate limited revenue at the moment," the authors write. A more productive approach, in their view, would therefore be for the Ukrainian government to appoint administrators for these assets. They could then, for example, continue the business of a company - or appoint someone to take over this task.

Jimbuna · 08-14-22, 05:54 AM

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has accused Russia of using "nuclear blackmail" at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant - Europe's largest.

Russia seized the plant in March and has been accused of turning it into a base from where it hits nearby towns.

Both countries have traded blame for shelling it in recent days, prompting UN warnings of a nuclear disaster.

Mr Zelensky says any Russian soldier who shoots at or under the cover of the plant will be a "special target".

The six-nuclear reactor Zaporizhzhia station is located in the city of Enerhodar, on the eastern bank of the Dnieper River (Dnipro in Ukrainian) in southern Ukraine.

Russia invaded Ukraine on 24 February, seizing the plant within days. Moscow has kept Ukrainian personnel to operate the facility.

The UN has warned that continued hostilities around the station could lead to a nuclear disaster affecting much of Europe.

Russia has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing at the plant.

It says it seized control of the plant to prevent leaks of radioactive materials during fighting in the region.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62537495

Jimbuna · 08-14-22, 11:48 AM

What weapons are being given to Ukraine by the UK?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61482305

Skybird · 08-15-22, 07:12 AM

https://www.economist.com/europe/202...war-propaganda

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This most numinous of Russian icons is now serving the darkest cause: Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine. On July 16th the icon, which had been in the State Tretyakov Gallery since 1929, was moved on Kremlin orders (and against the will of restorers) to the Trinity Lavra of St Sergius, the spiritual centre of Russia’s Orthodox church. There it was venerated during the feast of St Sergius, a Russian saint who influenced Rublev. Patriarch Kirill, the head of the Russian church and a supporter of the war, said the icon “connects us to the time when our Russia, in great danger from foreign and domestic enemies, was concentrating on becoming a great power”.
Curators warned that dragging the icon to the church from the museum, where it was kept at a precise temperature and humidity, could damage it. Dragging Russia into obscurantism is just as damaging. The move had little to do with Christianity, and everything to do with Mr Putin’s cult of war.
Sergei Parkhomenko, a liberal journalist, compared Mr Putin to a pharoah trying to “bribe” a deity: “Either he is very afraid of losing the war, and is asking for help. Or he is deciding to do something very scary—scary even to himself—and seeks forgiveness in advance.” Russia’s president recently warned that his invasion “has not even started in earnest”. He might want to heed the words of Voltaire, who was more sceptical of religion: “God is on the side not of the heavy battalions, but of the best shots.”

Jimbuna · 08-15-22, 01:18 PM

Ukraine hits Russian Wagner mercenary HQ in east

Ukrainian artillery has struck a headquarters of Russia's shadowy Wagner paramilitary group of mercenaries in eastern Ukraine, reports say.

The extent of damage to the military base of the group - which has been linked to war crimes - is not clear.

Luhansk's governor claims its secret location was revealed after a Russian journalist shared its address.

Last week, pro-Kremlin correspondent Sergei Sreda posted a photo on Telegram of the base with its apparent address.

The image, shared on the social media site but since deleted, shows five people in military uniform with a street sign in Popasna, Luhansk visible in the top left corner.

The BBC has not been able to confirm whether the strike, which has been reported by both the Ukrainian Luhansk governor and pro-Kremlin war reporters, was initiated as a result of the image.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62547403

Jimbuna · 08-15-22, 01:37 PM

Jimbuna · 08-16-22, 06:49 AM

President Vladimir Putin has said he will expand Russia's relations with North Korea.

In a letter to Kim Jong-un on Pyongyang's liberation day, Mr Putin said the move would be in both countries' interests.

In reply, Mr Kim said the friendship between the two countries had been "consolidated and developed" over centuries.

The Soviet Union was once a major communist ally of North Korea, offering aid, cultural exchange and economic cooperation.

Jimbuna · 08-16-22, 06:57 AM

Russia blames sabotage for new Crimea blasts

A week after an apparent Ukrainian attack on a Russian military base in occupied Crimea, an arms store on another depot has been hit by a series of explosions.

Russian officials said a fire triggered the blasts in the Dzhankoi area - before later blaming "sabotage".

A separate fire broke out at power substation and a railway was damaged.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62560041

Jimbuna · 08-16-22, 07:05 AM

Dargo · 08-16-22, 11:32 AM

38,297 cars have crossed the Crimea bridge on 15th August, Russian state media TASS reports, citing the local department of road management this is a record amount of cars to cross the bridge in one day. The Russian "settlers" are leaving Crimea there are some 600,000 Russians residing in Crimea air and rail traffic is already mostly suspended.

Dargo · 08-16-22, 11:33 AM

KYIV, Ukraine — Two people were reported injured and infrastructure severely damaged early Tuesday when a major blast rocked an ammunition depot in Russian-occupied Crimea in what the Kremlin called an “act of sabotage.” A senior Ukrainian government official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter, said the explosions were the work of Ukrainian special forces operating deep behind enemy lines — the same forces believed responsible for a powerful attack against a Russian air base in western Crimea last week that signaled a shift in Ukraine’s strategic capabilities. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ssia-dzhankoi/

08-13-22, 05:38 PM	#5613
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,576 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Latest news from Ukraine Sorry for the f-word in the picture Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

08-13-22, 05:55 PM	#5615
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,729 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Ukraine is in danger to lose the war due to the economy not being able to support the war any longer, says a study by the Centre for Economic Policy Research. https://cepr.org/system/files/2022-0...dResponse2.pdf If the country continues to operate as it has been, "a major crisis will occur that will devastate Ukraine's ability to sustain its war effort over an extended period of time." In other words, Ukraine will lose this war unless it can improve its economic situation. For example, the widespread destruction of the country's once strong steel production and major oil refineries by Russian missiles, as well as blockades of Ukrainian ports, have led to a drastic decline in economic output. Exporting sectors in particular have been affected, he said. In addition, many industrial construction projects have been frozen, further burdening the economy in the country. Meanwhile, the labor market is under enormous pressure. According to estimates by the National Bank of Ukraine (NBU), more than one million workers have been laid off, and more than half of companies have cut wages since the war began, in some cases by up to 50 percent. The unemployment rate was estimated at 35 percent in June 2022. The bright spot at the moment is the IT sector, which remains strong. These measures are intended to strengthen the economy in Ukraine: The country needs to mobilize more resources in light of this desolate economic situation to pay for the enormous military expenditures and help the war-affected population, the study authors write. In doing so, they go on to outline measures that should put Ukraine's economy on a sustainable course for the duration of the war. 1. drastic tax increases Among the proposals are drastic tax increases , ideally easily administered. In addition to taxing luxury goods more heavily, the authors suggest making people with high incomes pay more. The government should "make taxes more progressive so that the burden of war falls more heavily on those with more resources. This is desirable both for reasons of justice and social solidarity," it says. Currently, Ukraine has a flat income tax with a rate of 18 percent. However, exceptions and loopholes would also have to be examined and closed. 2. significantly reduce expenditures With regard to government spending, " prudence and restraint should be the guiding principles." Therefore, the researchers suggest, for example, postponing regular maintenance of roads, bridges and other infrastructure until the war is over. They also believe that financial support for refugees and internally displaced persons should be reorganized. Currently, they receive a kind of basic income. "While this approach was appropriate in the first chaotic days of the war, the cost of basic income is high," they argue. There would be no distinction between vulnerable and relatively wealthy refugees. In the future, the basic income should be linked, for example, to finding a job and doing public work. Ukraine could save further by "transferring the cost of some services , normally borne by the public sector, to external parties." Doctors Without Borders could provide basic medical care, while the United Nations (UN) and the Red Cross provide and pay for medical supplies. Expenditures for cultural programs, such as the protection of museums and galleries, on the other hand, could be borne by international organizations and NGOs. For this, Ukraine should turn to and appeal to its allies in the West. 3. print less money and liberalize the market The researchers are also critical of the fact that Ukraine is printing more and more money in order to be able to continue financing military expenditures. The danger is too great that the economy will be devastated by high inflation as a result. Instead, the economy should be heavily deregulated, for example, by reducing bureaucratic hurdles. "As a result of the Russian invasion, there is currently little to no economic activity in some sectors and areas of Ukraine. The resources that are freed up need to be deployed elsewhere, and government policies should facilitate this redistribution of resources on a large scale," they explain. The government had indeed encouraged companies to relocate to western Ukraine, where security risks are lower. However, this political call has had "only modest effects" so far. For example, fewer than 1,000 companies have relocated so far, he said. "This problem can be addressed by radical liberalization of markets," the experts advise. As part of this, they also suggest that the government appoint a high-ranking official (e.g., a "deregulation chief") to coordinate and drive deregulation. 4. appoint administrators for Russian assets in the country. Since the beginning of the war, Ukraine has seized assets from companies and individuals who worked for the Russian side. "Liquidating these assets will likely take some time and generate limited revenue at the moment," the authors write. A more productive approach, in their view, would therefore be for the Ukrainian government to appoint administrators for these assets. They could then, for example, continue the business of a company - or appoint someone to take over this task. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-14-22, 05:54 AM	#5616
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,083 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has accused Russia of using "nuclear blackmail" at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant - Europe's largest. Russia seized the plant in March and has been accused of turning it into a base from where it hits nearby towns. Both countries have traded blame for shelling it in recent days, prompting UN warnings of a nuclear disaster. Mr Zelensky says any Russian soldier who shoots at or under the cover of the plant will be a "special target". The six-nuclear reactor Zaporizhzhia station is located in the city of Enerhodar, on the eastern bank of the Dnieper River (Dnipro in Ukrainian) in southern Ukraine. Russia invaded Ukraine on 24 February, seizing the plant within days. Moscow has kept Ukrainian personnel to operate the facility. The UN has warned that continued hostilities around the station could lead to a nuclear disaster affecting much of Europe. Russia has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing at the plant. It says it seized control of the plant to prevent leaks of radioactive materials during fighting in the region. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62537495 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-14-22, 11:48 AM	#5617
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,083 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	What weapons are being given to Ukraine by the UK? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61482305 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-15-22, 01:18 PM	#5619
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,083 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Ukraine hits Russian Wagner mercenary HQ in east Ukrainian artillery has struck a headquarters of Russia's shadowy Wagner paramilitary group of mercenaries in eastern Ukraine, reports say. The extent of damage to the military base of the group - which has been linked to war crimes - is not clear. Luhansk's governor claims its secret location was revealed after a Russian journalist shared its address. Last week, pro-Kremlin correspondent Sergei Sreda posted a photo on Telegram of the base with its apparent address. The image, shared on the social media site but since deleted, shows five people in military uniform with a street sign in Popasna, Luhansk visible in the top left corner. The BBC has not been able to confirm whether the strike, which has been reported by both the Ukrainian Luhansk governor and pro-Kremlin war reporters, was initiated as a result of the image. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62547403 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-15-22, 01:37 PM	#5620
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,083 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	__________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-16-22, 06:49 AM	#5621
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,083 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	President Vladimir Putin has said he will expand Russia's relations with North Korea. In a letter to Kim Jong-un on Pyongyang's liberation day, Mr Putin said the move would be in both countries' interests. In reply, Mr Kim said the friendship between the two countries had been "consolidated and developed" over centuries. The Soviet Union was once a major communist ally of North Korea, offering aid, cultural exchange and economic cooperation. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-16-22, 06:57 AM	#5622
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,083 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Russia blames sabotage for new Crimea blasts A week after an apparent Ukrainian attack on a Russian military base in occupied Crimea, an arms store on another depot has been hit by a series of explosions. Russian officials said a fire triggered the blasts in the Dzhankoi area - before later blaming "sabotage". A separate fire broke out at power substation and a railway was damaged. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62560041 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-16-22, 07:05 AM	#5623
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,083 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	__________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!