UK Politics Thread - Page 375

STEED · 11-03-16, 05:37 PM

What a right mess.

Oberon · 11-03-16, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

What a right mess.

It's good entertainment this whole spinning around the u-bend.

Jimbuna · 11-04-16, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

What a right mess.

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Originally Posted by Oberon

It's good entertainment this whole spinning around the u-bend.

Yes, I think we are all in for a long seasons entertainment

Just keeps your hands off my pension

STEED · 11-04-16, 07:03 AM

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Pro-Brexit Conservative Stephen Phillips has resigned as an MP with immediate effect over "irreconcilable policy differences" with the Government.

http://news.sky.com/story/conservati...signs-10644242

As BossMark would say good.

Meanwhile at UKIP another one drops out.

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Peter Whittle has become the latest candidate to pull out of the UKIP leadership contest.

http://news.sky.com/story/peter-whit...ntest-10644059

Oberon · 11-04-16, 07:46 AM

It'll be Farage, just you wait and see, he'll be back.

Jimbuna · 11-04-16, 08:11 AM

I suspect you may well be right

Oberon · 11-04-16, 10:46 AM

UKIP isn't a party, it's a cult of personality.

MGR1 · 11-05-16, 04:18 AM

Not sure about the personality part, but people do say the same thing about the SNP.

Mind you, both UKIP and the SNP are nationalist parties.....

In the meantime: "Former Scottish government minister Alex Neil voted for Brexit" LINK.

Shock. Horror. An SNP parliamentarian with his own will. Sturgeon is not pleased!

Mike.

Jimbuna · 11-05-16, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MGR1

In the meantime: "Former Scottish government minister Alex Neil voted for Brexit" LINK.

Shock. Horror. An SNP parliamentarian with his own will. Sturgeon is not pleased!

Mike.

MGR1 · 11-05-16, 10:27 AM

Bleh!

Mel Gibson has a lot to answer for!

I'm not sure which was the most drivel, "Braveheart" or Liam Neeson in "Rob Roy".....

Anyway, even more shock and horror if your an SNP person - the Tories have won two council by-elections in Wee Eck's own back yard: LINK.

Aberdeenshire - Banff and District

Conservatives 1,170 (44.0 per cent, +20.9 on 2012) SNP 962 (36.2 per cent, -19.2) Lib Dems 526 (19.8 per cent, +8.7)

Conservatives gain from the SNP.

Aberdeenshire - Inverurie and District

Conservatives 1,302 (38.8 per cent, +21.4 on 2012) SNP 1,164 (34.6 per cent, -2.5) Lib Dems 755 (22.5 per cent, +5.1) Labour 139 (4.1 per cent, -9.1)

Conservatives gain from the Lib Dems.

As usual for council elections the turn out wasn't brilliant.

Ironically, with the SNP swinging to the left politically to chase after the Glasgow vote, they've begun to alienate their more conservative North-East support. More than a few people in the rural areas up here wouldn't touch Labour with a barge pole due to the "Weegie Mafia" taint that effects them. The Lib Dems aren't strong enough either, so that leaves the Tories. Of course, the SNP mucking up the EU subsidy payments to farmers in Scotland and their pro-EU stance undermining their position in the fishing communities has to be factored in.

There isn't likely to be an earthquake anytime soon, although there are indications that the proposed new Westminster constituency bounderies in Scotland may benefit the Tories to a small extent.

Mike.

Oberon · 11-05-16, 11:13 AM

Do you think that when Brexit does happen and the farming subsidies are cut or are stopped entirely that the farming community will swing to SNP or will they go down the tubes too quickly for it to matter? I can see the fishing communities staying Tory because they'll be hoping to get less strict quotas, but I don't think that Westminster is going to be able to change much when it comes to fishing based quotas, but they might well be able to exercise greater control of British fishing waters which will please the fishermen...if...of course, we can get the coverage to monitor and patrol it.

Oberon · 11-05-16, 11:18 AM

Jimbuna · 11-05-16, 11:18 AM

^
^ I suspect we'd need a navy to do that.

Oberon · 11-05-16, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^
^ I suspect we'd need a navy to do that.

It's getting there, I mean, we've got two good carriers, some good destroyers and orders down for some new frigates, the Astutes are coming out on time and the Dreadnought has been confirmed. If we can keep both carriers and the F35s turn out alright then we'll have a fairly potent force, if somewhat stretched.

Jimbuna · 11-05-16, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

It's getting there, I mean, we've got two good carriers, some good destroyers and orders down for some new frigates, the Astutes are coming out on time and the Dreadnought has been confirmed. If we can keep both carriers and the F35s turn out alright then we'll have a fairly potent force, if somewhat stretched.

True that but what other military areas will suffer financially as a consequence?

11-03-16, 05:37 PM	#5611
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	What a right mess. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT! Last edited by STEED; 11-03-16 at 06:08 PM.

11-04-16, 08:11 AM	#5616
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,753 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I suspect you may well be right __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

11-05-16, 04:18 AM	#5618
MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 962 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	Not sure about the personality part, but people do say the same thing about the SNP. Mind you, both UKIP and the SNP are nationalist parties..... In the meantime: "Former Scottish government minister Alex Neil voted for Brexit" LINK. Shock. Horror. An SNP parliamentarian with his own will. Sturgeon is not pleased! Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

11-05-16, 10:27 AM	#5620
MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 962 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	Bleh! Mel Gibson has a lot to answer for! I'm not sure which was the most drivel, "Braveheart" or Liam Neeson in "Rob Roy"..... Anyway, even more shock and horror if your an SNP person - the Tories have won two council by-elections in Wee Eck's own back yard: LINK. Aberdeenshire - Banff and District Conservatives 1,170 (44.0 per cent, +20.9 on 2012) SNP 962 (36.2 per cent, -19.2) Lib Dems 526 (19.8 per cent, +8.7) Conservatives gain from the SNP. Aberdeenshire - Inverurie and District Conservatives 1,302 (38.8 per cent, +21.4 on 2012) SNP 1,164 (34.6 per cent, -2.5) Lib Dems 755 (22.5 per cent, +5.1) Labour 139 (4.1 per cent, -9.1) Conservatives gain from the Lib Dems. As usual for council elections the turn out wasn't brilliant. Ironically, with the SNP swinging to the left politically to chase after the Glasgow vote, they've begun to alienate their more conservative North-East support. More than a few people in the rural areas up here wouldn't touch Labour with a barge pole due to the "Weegie Mafia" taint that effects them. The Lib Dems aren't strong enough either, so that leaves the Tories. Of course, the SNP mucking up the EU subsidy payments to farmers in Scotland and their pro-EU stance undermining their position in the fishing communities has to be factored in. There isn't likely to be an earthquake anytime soon, although there are indications that the proposed new Westminster constituency bounderies in Scotland may benefit the Tories to a small extent. Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

11-05-16, 11:18 AM	#5623
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,753 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^ ^ I suspect we'd need a navy to do that. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

11-04-16, 07:46 AM	#5615
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	It'll be Farage, just you wait and see, he'll be back.

11-04-16, 10:46 AM	#5617
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	UKIP isn't a party, it's a cult of personality.

11-05-16, 11:13 AM	#5621
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Do you think that when Brexit does happen and the farming subsidies are cut or are stopped entirely that the farming community will swing to SNP or will they go down the tubes too quickly for it to matter? I can see the fishing communities staying Tory because they'll be hoping to get less strict quotas, but I don't think that Westminster is going to be able to change much when it comes to fishing based quotas, but they might well be able to exercise greater control of British fishing waters which will please the fishermen...if...of course, we can get the coverage to monitor and patrol it.

11-05-16, 11:18 AM	#5622
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20