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Old 11-19-24, 04:35 AM   #5311
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Old 11-19-24, 07:26 AM   #5312
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Ukraine does not trade sovereignty, we will not give up rights to all our territory - Zelenskyy

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President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has assured that Ukraine will never give up its rights to its entire territory.

According to Censor.NET, the head of state said this during the presentation of the Ukraine's Resilience Plan in the Verkhovna Rada.

"We have already signed 27 bilateral security agreements with our partners. Almost all of them are NATO members. They support Ukraine's accession to NATO. This number shows that nothing fundamental separates us from the Alliance. Only a lack of strength and political will. By the way, not Ukrainian political will. We will convince our partners to be bold, but only together.

I am sure we can do it with you. This is not something additional or new for Ukraine. The Alliance, NATO is what we deserve. This is not a gift for us. This should be a correction of a historical mistake by our partners. What should have been done yesterday to avoid this war," he stressed.

According to Zelenskyy, Ukraine "does not trade sovereignty, security or the future of Ukraine".

‘We will not give up Ukraine's rights to its entire territory. We will definitely not allow anyone to use our country in someone's election battles in Europe. It will not be possible to win at the expense of Ukraine. We can win together with Ukraine. This is the only way. We will not abandon a rational approach to guaranteeing the rights of our state," the President added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3520763
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Old 11-20-24, 07:34 AM   #5313
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[BBC] President Biden’s decision to provide anti-personnel mines to Ukraine, and allow the use of long-range missiles on Russian territory comes as the Russian military is accelerating its gains along the front line.

Data from the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) shows that Russia has gained almost six times as much territory in 2024 as it did in 2023, and is advancing towards key Ukrainian logistical hubs in the eastern Donbas region.

Meanwhile, Ukraine's surprise incursion into Russia's Kursk region is faltering. Russian troops have pushed Kyiv's offensive backwards. Experts have questioned the success of the offensive, with one calling it a "strategic catastrophe" given manpower shortages faced by Ukraine.
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The ISW concludes Moscow now holds a total of 110,649 sq km in Ukraine. For comparison, Ukrainian forces seized just over 1,171 sq km in the first month of its incursion into Kursk - though Russian forces have now retaken nearly half of that territory.
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Old 11-20-24, 10:52 AM   #5314
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The allowance to use longrange missiles inside Russia was to late. This approval should have come month ago.

They have created some havoc in Bryansk oblast, the 6 missiles fired against military targets.

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The allowance to use longrange missiles inside Russia was to late. This approval should have come month ago.

They have created some havoc in Bryansk oblast, the 6 missiles fired against military targets.

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This attack was successful and resulted in 12 explosions. Andrii Kovalenko, head of Ukraine's counter-disinformation center at the National Security and Defense Council, claimed the attack targeted the 67th arsenal of Russia's Main Missile and Artillery Directorate. Kovalenko did not specify what exactly was used to attack the arsenal, but he added that it "had been attacked by drones" earlier. The governor of Bryansk Oblast claimed this was a drone attack.
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[NZZ] Biden has also limited his decision this time. According to unofficial information, the green light for the Atacms only applies to the greater Kursk area, where the Ukrainians are trying to hold on to the territory they conquered in August on Russian soil. In addition, the USA continues to block the use of British-French Storm Shadow / Scalp cruise missiles. Biden has also refrained from announcing generous supplies for the dwindling Ukrainian Atacms stocks. At least he has managed to deliver anti-personnel mines, which are very suitable for keeping the feared Russian infantry stormtroopers at a distance. What is bitter for the Ukrainians, however, is that this step was only taken after they had already lost hundreds of square kilometers of land this autumn.

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Old 11-21-24, 06:39 AM   #5319
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West does not confirm Russia’s use of intercontinental ballistic missile - ABC

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The West does not confirm the use of an intercontinental ballistic missile by Russian troops against Ukraine.

This was reported by ABC News, citing a Western official, Censor.NET informs.

The official suggests that the Russians used a ballistic missile to attack Dnipro, but did not specify its type.

Putin's spokesman, Peskov, referred the question to the Russian Defence Ministry. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3521134
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Russia claims to have intercepted two storm shadows. Its currently a bit unclear whether "intercepted" means destroyed, or that they got their hands on them by jamming them to the ground. Also unclear is whether it really happened.


According to media reports China now also delivers combat drones. A signal for massive political changes.
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Old 11-21-24, 07:43 AM   #5322
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Trade sanctions on China would be quite effective if enough western countries backed them.
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Old 11-21-24, 09:30 AM   #5323
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The strike on Ukraine with the R-26 Rubezh intercontinental ballistic missile is madness due to its very large minimum flight range and the enormous cost of one unit $50 million (Iskander – $10 million). The minimum flight range of this missile is 2 thousand km, while its potential launch point is less than a thousand kilometers. If such a missile is used, it will be once, maximum twice, or in the distant future, when there will be serial production of this type of missile. And for this, it is necessary to build a plant for their production. Because this missile was not adopted for service and is not included in their missile program. Therefore, there are not many of them in the Russian Federation, due to the very high cost, the Russians will not have the capacity to mass-produce such weapons.
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Whatever type the missiles was, its a demonstration to show that Russia has so much more tools of destruction in its arsenal that Ukraine can never hope to counter that. Russia has more men, more material, more production. Ukraine is running low with its ATACMS and possible later supply from the US also bases on limited availability, the US in essence is phasing them out via Ukraine. The production of Neptuns in Ukraine is in no way near to be sufficient, nor is the other parts of defence production in Ukraine. Zelensky admitted two day ago that without further massive support from the US Ukraine is doomed to lose for sure.

Reisner once said that Himars and such things only make a decisive difference if you have so much ammo for them that you can fire them by the many dozens per week, week for week, month for month, several multiple-missiles-attacks per day.


Col. Reisner's recent speech that I linked to yesterday, speaks volumes.

Russia is bigger, and has more, far more power and potential in numbers. And they reminded the world that they could start to unpack the real big clubs. Of which they have more than anyone else.

The West does not help Ukraine to win the war, it only prolongues the war to damage Russia further. At Ukraine'S cost. Boiling the frog it still is, and it was that from beginning on. I wrote already in 2022 that neither Paris nor Berlin nor Brussel really want Ukraine to win with flying colours, since this would shift the centre of power from the West far towards the East - and Paris and Berlin and Brussel do not want that. And the US - just want to grow the damage to Russian military and weaken it further. Russia in one year now produces three to four times as much military goods than all Europe together.
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