Who Started World War II? - Page 35

Takeda Shingen · 01-19-16, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Is this the 'evidence' we have been awaiting translation of?

You act surprised. Surely you've caught on to the reality that even after 34 pages and 510 posts there is no "evidence" forthcoming. I would also like to think that, as people who are not new to moderating, you and Steve would be prescient enough to know that none was coming in the first place. Not that this train wreck of a thread hasn't been an entertaining read. Still, it was a predictable disaster, albeit one of your own making. Doubly so once it was inexplicably opened again.

But I digress. Bring in the gladiators.

les green01 · 01-19-16, 08:39 AM

well this tread reminds me of the old saying wish in one hand crap in the other see which one gets fills up first or don't pee down my back and tell me it is raining

Sailor Steve · 01-19-16, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bears

Still, it was a predictable disaster, albeit one of your own making.

It was closed, not because there is no evidence forthcoming or because it's a disaster, but because people were turning to baiting tactics.

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Doubly so once it was inexplicably opened again.

Not inexplicably, but explained. I promised that he would get a chance to present his documents, and I intend to keep that promise. Where it goes from there remains to be seen.

Takeda Shingen · 01-19-16, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

It was closed, not because there is no evidence forthcoming or because it's a disaster, but because people were turning to baiting tactics.

Of course it did. How could it not? Both predictable and a disaster. There was no question about how this was going to end. You yourself stated early on that you had a bad feeling about this. Still you allowed it. And chaos ensued.

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Not inexplicably, but explained. I promised that he would get a chance to present his documents, and I intend to keep that promise. Where it goes from there remains to be seen.

No, completely inexplicable. He had a week to present his argument. That's an eternity. You then shut it down because you said that things got out of hand. Then you opened it because, evidently, a week was not long enough to present an argument on the interwebs. But by all means, keep it going. This is rather enjoyable. On with the show!

Sailor Steve · 01-19-16, 10:14 AM

I also said that the discussion would be about Who Started WW2 and nothing else. Consider this an informal warning. Stick to the subject or stay out of it.

Takeda Shingen · 01-19-16, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I also said that the discussion would be about Who Started WW2 and nothing else. Consider this an informal warning. Stick to the subject or stay out of it.

Do what you think you have to. Don't threaten. Act. And I am certainly not going to change or refrain from sharing my opinion about what is going on here because you don't like it. If you want to ban me, then do it. It is no loss to me. I don't value posting here.

MLF · 01-19-16, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

It was closed, not because there is no evidence forthcoming or because it's a disaster, but because people were turning to baiting tactics.

Steve

I have PM'd you.

Regards,

MLF

Oberon · 01-19-16, 11:40 AM

Mayhap it would be best for this thread to be locked until Fahnenbohn has accumulated this evidence, he can then PM Steve, Jim or Neal to unlock it and post at his leisure?
I think, really, we've exhausted most discussion on this topic now until the said evidence is forthcoming.

Jimbuna · 01-19-16, 01:12 PM

A great deal of time, discussion and effort has taken place between Steve and I (Neal on occasion as well) over the course of this thread and said subject matter.

Was it wrong to initially close the thread? Maybe, maybe not.

Was it wrong to reopen this thread? Maybe, maybe not.

What is correct is the fact that this thread has been subject to continuous scrutiny and debate with the sole aim that it conforms with the rules of the forum.

The thread will have a finite lifespan of a further week or so to give the obvious party sufficient time to produce translated evidence as was originally promised.

In the meantime Steve and I would ask that no attempts at baiting or similarly unacceptable posting is made.

If anyone disagrees with a certain viewpoint then feel free to do so without resorting to insults and name calling.

There is always a simpler option of ignoring and not responding.

Failure to abide by the above means individuals are running the risk of being subject to remedial action as has already been demonstrated today.

Tchocky · 01-19-16, 01:45 PM

I want to recut the A-Team opening with you guys in it now.

Fahnenbohn · 01-19-16, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

If anyone disagrees with a certain viewpoint then feel free to do so without resorting to insults and name calling.

Yes, this is the minimum in a democracy ...

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The thread will have a finite lifespan of a further week or so to give the obvious party sufficient time to produce translated evidence as was originally promised.

First, I didn't intend to open this thread. But as Sailor Steve didn't let me the choice, I have to produce my evidence. A week is too short. Let's say rather 3 or 4. For now, you can close this thread. I will send a PM to you or Sailor Steve when my document is ready. I'm working in RL life ... and I think I am too kind to spend my time in translation, especially for people who only seek to defame me ... But I'm sure there are more honest people who will read it.

Regards,

F.

Jimbuna · 01-19-16, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Yes, this is the minimum in a democracy ...

First, I didn't intend to open this thread. But as Sailor Steve didn't let me the choice, I have to produce my evidence. A week is too short. Let's say rather 3 or 4. For now, you can close this thread. I will send a PM to you or Sailor Steve when my document is ready. I'm working in RL life ... and I think I am too kind to spend my time in translation, especially for people who only seek to defame me ... But I'm sure there are more honest people who will read it.

Regards,

F.

I tell you what, we'll stick to the decision as posted in #519 and deal with any outcomes that may materialise.

Fahnenbohn · 01-19-16, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I tell you what, we'll stick to the decision as posted in #519 and deal with any outcomes that may materialise.

OK. For you guys, in order to console yourself to not be able to talk to me for some time, I would advise you to hear Chopin :

This is good for the soul and the brain.

See you soon !

MLF · 01-19-16, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

OK. For you guys, in order to console yourself to not be able to talk to me for some time, I would advise you to hear Chopin :

This is good for the soul and the brain.

For once I agree with Fahnenbohn

Eichhörnchen · 01-19-16, 02:58 PM

Yes. Beautiful...

01-19-16, 08:39 AM	#512
les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,784 Downloads: 1405 Uploads: 0	well this tread reminds me of the old saying wish in one hand crap in the other see which one gets fills up first or don't pee down my back and tell me it is raining __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

01-19-16, 10:14 AM	#515
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I also said that the discussion would be about Who Started WW2 and nothing else. Consider this an informal warning. Stick to the subject or stay out of it. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

01-19-16, 01:12 PM	#519
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,770 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	A great deal of time, discussion and effort has taken place between Steve and I (Neal on occasion as well) over the course of this thread and said subject matter. Was it wrong to initially close the thread? Maybe, maybe not. Was it wrong to reopen this thread? Maybe, maybe not. What is correct is the fact that this thread has been subject to continuous scrutiny and debate with the sole aim that it conforms with the rules of the forum. The thread will have a finite lifespan of a further week or so to give the obvious party sufficient time to produce translated evidence as was originally promised. In the meantime Steve and I would ask that no attempts at baiting or similarly unacceptable posting is made. If anyone disagrees with a certain viewpoint then feel free to do so without resorting to insults and name calling. There is always a simpler option of ignoring and not responding. Failure to abide by the above means individuals are running the risk of being subject to remedial action as has already been demonstrated today. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-19-16, 01:45 PM	#520
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I want to recut the A-Team opening with you guys in it now. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

01-19-16, 02:58 PM	#525
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,445 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Yes. Beautiful... __________________

01-19-16, 11:40 AM	#518
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Mayhap it would be best for this thread to be locked until Fahnenbohn has accumulated this evidence, he can then PM Steve, Jim or Neal to unlock it and post at his leisure? I think, really, we've exhausted most discussion on this topic now until the said evidence is forthcoming.