[WIP] Wolves of the Kaiser:1914-1918 Mod - Page 35

iambecomelife · 09-21-11, 04:14 PM

Another modeling update:

Sledgehammer427 · 09-21-11, 07:46 PM

You had me at Dreadnought.

Hitman · 09-22-11, 09:24 AM

Nice

But for tripod mast should be behind funnel. I guess both masts are not yet moved to position? Both seem too forward placed

iambecomelife · 09-22-11, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Nice

But for tripod mast should be behind funnel. I guess both masts are not yet moved to position? Both seem too forward placed

No; this is "Bellerophon" and her sister ships - not the "Dreadnought".

Chrisi078 · 09-23-11, 08:31 AM

Super mod cool weiter so gg aus Germany

Hitman · 09-23-11, 08:56 AM

Oh cool so I have been having a picture of Bellerophon hanging in the wall all these years and always thought it was Dreadnought

Jeeez live and learn

iambecomelife · 09-23-11, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Oh cool so I have been having a picture of Bellerophon hanging in the wall all these years and always thought it was Dreadnought

Jeeez live and learn

It's very funny how irresponsible the Royal Navy was with tripod mast placement. Even after they discovered the problem with smoke interference, dreadnoughts like "Orion" and "Colossus" still had their tripod masts placed behind the funnel. Long range gunnery is hard enough without hot smoke suffocating you & blocking your view. German dreadnoughts, OTOH, never had this ridiculous feature.

keltos01 · 09-24-11, 01:42 AM

nice to see this mod is steadily going forward !

Sailor Steve · 09-24-11, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by iambecomelife

It's very funny how irresponsible the Royal Navy was with tripod mast placement. Even after they discovered the problem with smoke interference, dreadnoughts like "Orion" and "Colossus" still had their tripod masts placed behind the funnel. Long range gunnery is hard enough without hot smoke suffocating you & blocking your view. German dreadnoughts, OTOH, never had this ridiculous feature.

What's really weird is the reason behind it - boat cranes. They didn't want to add separate cranes to hoist the boats out, so they put the tripod mast closer to the boats, and behind the forward funnel.

This, coupled with the bad positioning of the aft rangefinder, meant that Dreadnought was effectively blind at any speed above about 10 knots until extra rangefinders were mounted on the compass platform and 'A' turret in 1912.

@ Hitman and Sledgehammer: I pointed out that it was Bellerophon in post #505.

iambecomelife · 09-26-11, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

What's really weird is the reason behind it - boat cranes. They didn't want to add separate cranes to hoist the boats out, so they put the tripod mast closer to the boats, and behind the forward funnel.

This, coupled with the bad positioning of the aft rangefinder, meant that Dreadnought was effectively blind at any speed above about 10 knots until extra rangefinders were mounted on the compass platform and 'A' turret in 1912.

@ Hitman and Sledgehammer: I pointed out that it was Bellerophon in post #505.

Interesting. How could they possibly think that boat cranes were more important than spotting? I realize one could argue they're important for abandoning ship but in practice WWI ships' large lifeboats were useless. During the sinkings of the "Cressy" cruisers, "Hawke", etc most boats were unusable due to lack of winch power after the engine rooms went dead. The German approach - give everyone life jackets & hope for the best - was more logical.

Anyway, I made minor improvements to the model & hope to start more dreadnoughts soon. Watch out for another update this weekend.

Sledgehammer427 · 09-27-11, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

@ Hitman and Sledgehammer: I pointed out that it was Bellerophon in post #505.

-cough-
My knowledge of WWI era equipment isn't nearly as good as the rest of the wars, that happened afterward.

And for the record I haven't been following this thread very closely

iambecomelife · 09-29-11, 12:25 AM

Getting good sources for this class was a Herculean task. A Colossal one, too.

The secondary armament will be modeled later. Research on the superstructure continues - this class changed pretty dramatically in appearance. The ship's boats are placeholders until more detailed ones are made.

FurphyForum · 09-29-11, 05:26 AM

One of the many good things about this (Dreadnought to the Bellerophon class) is it will provide you with the platform (Bellerophon) to launch onto further classes (St Vincent, Collingwood and Vanguard) with minor modifications as you build your library of mods

if thats your intent

Truely well done iambecomelife

Sailor Steve · 09-29-11, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by iambecomelife

Getting good sources for this class was a Herculean task. A Colossal one, too.

King Neptune thanks you.

PS for what it's worth, I can supply intimate armor details.

iambecomelife · 09-30-11, 01:32 AM

Another high profile target...

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Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,111 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Nice But for tripod mast should be behind funnel. I guess both masts are not yet moved to position? Both seem too forward placed __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

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Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,111 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Oh cool so I have been having a picture of Bellerophon hanging in the wall all these years and always thought it was Dreadnought Jeeez live and learn __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

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iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,710 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	Getting good sources for this class was a Herculean task. A Colossal one, too. The secondary armament will be modeled later. Research on the superstructure continues - this class changed pretty dramatically in appearance. The ship's boats are placeholders until more detailed ones are made. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

09-29-11, 05:26 AM	#523
FurphyForum Shore leave Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 70 Downloads: 668 Uploads: 0	One of the many good things about this (Dreadnought to the Bellerophon class) is it will provide you with the platform (Bellerophon) to launch onto further classes (St Vincent, Collingwood and Vanguard) with minor modifications as you build your library of mods if thats your intent Truely well done iambecomelife

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