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View Poll Results: Who will be the next President of the United States?
Joe Biden 1 1.30%
Hillary Clinton 25 32.47%
John Edwards 3 3.90%
Rudy Giuliani 6 7.79%
Mike Huckabee 7 9.09%
John McCain 5 6.49%
Barack Obama 13 16.88%
Ron Paul 5 6.49%
Bill Richardson 1 1.30%
Mitt Romney 3 3.90%
Fred Thompson 8 10.39%
Pat Buchanan 0 0%
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Old 02-05-08, 03:37 PM   #481
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i dont think the majority of the american public want a african american as president.. (judging from history) or if he were to become president, he wouldnt stay alive very long
Absolutely pathetic.
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Old 02-05-08, 11:36 PM   #482
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Honestly, today's results keep saying "President McCain" to me. I think looking ahead, I see him having the best shot come election time.

Hillary's pulling up so far, but we'll see where we are when the counting ends! The Democrat contest may go on for a while yet. If Obama wins it, he'll be a strong candidate. Prologing the battle will probably be against Hillary's favour in the long run on the other hand, even if she wins it.
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Old 02-06-08, 06:46 AM   #483
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OK...It's 5:46 CST and I look at the results from Super Tuesday. The Democratic race is tighter than ever.

Hillary Clinton 630 delegates
Barak Obama 625 delegates

Let's focus on these two players since McCain pulled ahead of the Republican pack. What's next for the Dem's? It's obvious that their own party can't decide on who they want. The "all hail Clinton" clan, who would die if requested by Bill or Hillary, want the minority president in a woman....and get a bonus in a Clinton.

O'bama...I'm sure this is an easy one. Come on....a black man who has the charisma of MLK, speaks of new ideals, is farther left than anyone in the party, and finally is an outsider to Washington.

Wow...I might be a independant, but that situation looks like hell!
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Old 02-06-08, 08:28 AM   #484
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i dont think the majority of the american public want a african american as president.. (judging from history) or if he were to become president, he wouldnt stay alive very long
Absolutely pathetic.
Judging by how many delgates Obama received on super Tuesday, it looks like the majority do not care about his color. History is changing in the present. Concerning assassination, this was brought up back during the Iowa voting. Obama received more protection, against his wishes but he finally accepted. All the others have protection also. Do you think all of America just loves Hillary, McCain, Huckabee? Good Lord, even Ronald Reagan took a bullet. Always a nut in the barn no matter who you are.
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Old 02-06-08, 08:40 AM   #485
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Clinton got more delegates, but Obama won more states. together they would be a force.

McCain has done a remarkable comeback in the past 6 months, I must admit. I also mist admit that I considered hiom dead back then. Maybe he wouldn'T be the worst choice to make, but in some fields he is not concervative enough for many in his party (thank God, I say), so the Republicans have the problem to have ab strong candidate now - with a weak party with much internal fighting supporting him, while the Democrats run the risk of eating up their advantage by having not just one but two extremely strong candidates that keep on duelling themselves - maybe for too long.

I still see myself completely unable to predict in the original poll who of the three most likely candidates will finally end up in the WH.

So I btter move into the kitchen now and prepare the dough for this evening's pizza...
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... and finally is an outsider to Washington.
How can a US Senator be considered "an outsider to Washington"?
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... and finally is an outsider to Washington.
How can a US Senator be considered "an outsider to Washington"?
Per the campaign...first term senator. He "hasn't been influenced by Washington" yet.

I don't support him, was just using the "talk" about him.
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... and finally is an outsider to Washington.
How can a US Senator be considered "an outsider to Washington"?
I would say that Obama has not really gotten the 'same old same old bug' as the Clinton seem to have. He just seems fresh and has not gotten the status quo feeling about him. At any rate, which ever one gets to the white house will not change it all in 4 years. It got this way in 8 years.
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... and finally is an outsider to Washington.
How can a US Senator be considered "an outsider to Washington"?
I would say that Obama has not really gotten the 'same old same old bug' as the Clinton seem to have. He just seems fresh and has not gotten the status quo feeling about him. At any rate, which ever one gets to the white house will not change it all in 4 years. It got this way in 8 years.
What exactly do you expect him (or anyone else) to change about the White House?
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Judging by how many delgates Obama received on super Tuesday, it looks like the majority do not care about his color. History is changing in the present.
Yeah. Obama got a large portion of the southern white Democrat vote yesterday and Hitlery got more of the northern white Democrat vote. Big shift from previous years.
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Given Obama toe the line support for every left-wing cause to come down the pike since he got to the Senate, I'd say the only change I'll see is it leaving from my and my girlfriend's pockets to fund the Great Society Volume II.
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... and finally is an outsider to Washington.
How can a US Senator be considered "an outsider to Washington"?
I would say that Obama has not really gotten the 'same old same old bug' as the Clinton seem to have. He just seems fresh and has not gotten the status quo feeling about him. At any rate, which ever one gets to the white house will not change it all in 4 years. It got this way in 8 years.
What exactly do you expect him (or anyone else) to change about the White House?
First thing we need to get done is closure on Iraq. Millions are being spent by the minute, not by the day. Immigration needs to be corrected. Borders checked/closed and a quota established on the number admitted to the states yearly. The illegals that are here need to have a road to citizenship established so they become tax paying citizens. Rounding them up and dumping them over the fence is not going to happen. Out sourcing needs to be curtailed. Tax right offs to companies that keep jobs here, not over seas. Welfare systems needs reform, needs a check and balance as well. Too many on the take. It is a shame what I see going on with welfare. Social Security needs to be reformed. Currently I'm dumping money in but when my turn comes, there will be no Social Security. Fair is fair in my book. But again, I do not see this happening in 4 years no matter who gets the presidency.
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... and finally is an outsider to Washington.
How can a US Senator be considered "an outsider to Washington"?
I would say that Obama has not really gotten the 'same old same old bug' as the Clinton seem to have. He just seems fresh and has not gotten the status quo feeling about him. At any rate, which ever one gets to the white house will not change it all in 4 years. It got this way in 8 years.
What exactly do you expect him (or anyone else) to change about the White House?
Well he would be different, no one has ever seen a politician like him. Its another thing what he can do, but it seems he wants to try. I personally think you are lucky to have him.

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Today is Super Tuesday, it will be very interesting to see if a candidate breaks out and develops a significant lead after this.
Senator McCain came out a clear front runner going in and coming out.

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Last I heard Obama has a 10 point lead over Clinton in California which provides one 5th of the delegates to the Dem convention.
Final outcome had Clinton as the winner in California, but ABC news said that a total of some 14 million votes were cast nationwide just in the Democratic primaries alone ...
yet the total vote difference between Clinton and Obama was only some 43,000 votes.

Very slim margin ... ABC news said this could very well come down to the party nomination party gathering in August with what they call the Super delegates.

Guess who's on the list of Super delegates that may make the last decision on who will represent the democratic party?

Bill Clinton

One more thought: What about Flordia that got it's votes cast out for having the primary early? Clinton won that one, but no delegates can be rewarded ...

Haven't we been here before?
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Obama's advisors and other notables are projecting the Democratic race to be a draw and the results will hinge on Michigan and Florida. So...Takeda and Neil...how about a new poll?
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