UK Politics Thread - Page 321

MGR1 · 11-22-15, 11:50 AM

Considering what's happened in Libya, my expectations are low.

Moving on to the SDSR, it appears that a new MPA is indeed on the cards. My bet is the P-8, with an outside possibility of the Kawasaki P-1. Considering Scotland's continuing political unreliability, I think they'll be based in either England or Wales. Not that there are any suitable base facilities for them in Scotland these days.

Mike.

MGR1 · 11-23-15, 12:04 PM

Well, I was right about the P-8 being bought for the RAF:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34897803

Main points:

Nine P-8's to finally replace the scrapped Nimrod's, will probably be based at RAF Lossiemouth in Scotland (contrary to my pessimistic assessment);

Two "Strike Brigades" to be created by 2025;

Typhoon service life will be extended by 10 years to 2040, with two extra squadrons being formed;

138 F-35B Lightning II's will be acquired, thus allowing both Queen Elizabeth class carriers to be in service at the same time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34893614

Not mentioned, but also announced, is that only 8 Type 26 frigates will be procured at this time, however the intention is still to have a class of 13.

Unsurprisingly, the SNP are kicking up a fuss about that last point whilst Glasgow's Daily Record (aka the Daily Ranger), despite being a Unionist paper and SLab rag, is also trotting out it's "Heartless English Tories betray Glasgow ship workers" guff.....

Mike.

Jimbuna · 11-23-15, 02:04 PM

The creation of two rapid deployment strike brigades by 2025 doesn't sound all that rapid to me and this current PM appears to be writing cheques he won't be around to put his signature to.

The question now being....who or what (savings wise) will be paying for all this, but I do agree the need for all the above 'capability gap filling).

Jimbuna · 11-25-15, 06:44 AM

Not long now for the Spending Review announcement.

I wonder what manner of delights Gideon has in store for us.

STEED · 11-25-15, 07:26 AM

I hear he is throwing money around like some show off who won the jackpot. On the other side of the coin in the real world oh my the national debt is still going up and don't forget the government wants you to take the debt their debt!

Back in dream land

La la la la la la la woooooooo la la la woooooooooo everything is going well.

Oberon · 11-25-15, 12:34 PM

You can't tell there's a Tory leadership contest coming up, can you?

STEED · 11-25-15, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

You can't tell there's a Tory leadership contest coming up, can you?

Really?

Tell all, spill the beans..

STEED · 11-25-15, 01:12 PM

NO GIT IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY MY JOB AS TOP PIG SHAGGER

You are history fat boy, roll over and make way your job is mind now clear off you pig shagger.

BossMark · 11-25-15, 03:43 PM

As Osborne talks more and more of 'fiscal rectitude' the more I think he needs rectal fistitude.

Oberon · 11-25-15, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

NO GIT IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY MY JOB AS TOP PIG SHAGGER

You are history fat boy, roll over and make way your job is mind now clear off you pig shagger.

BORIS SMASH!! BORIS SMASH!!

Jimbuna · 11-26-15, 08:37 AM

Well he certainly pulled a fast one over Labour in dropping the tax credits.

They'll soon be replaced by Universal Credit which will have the same or an even more damaging effect on the low paid.

Was nice to see the Shadow Chancellor going into comedy mode with the little red book of a well known former ruler who is believed to be responsible for over four million deaths

Oberon · 11-26-15, 09:15 AM

Osborne isn't daft, now that Labour has gone hard left and the Lib Dems are vaporised, the middle ground is open for the taking.

Jimbuna · 11-26-15, 09:26 AM

Labour policy in dissaray (not that they have announced one since the leadership contest) no more so than in 'Trident'....Leader and deputy can't agree and the cabinet can't agree with the leadership or the parliamentary members

Oberon · 11-26-15, 09:28 AM

Yeah, I mean I can respect Corbyn for running a fairly open shop in that you don't have to solidly toe the line and doff your cap to the big boss, that you can have your own opinion...but, it doesn't lead to a very organised party and it's a bit like putting a freshly cut limb into a pool of sharks...

Jimbuna · 11-26-15, 09:35 AM

I'm waiting to see if Corbyn allows his side a free vote, especially when you consider he has voted in excess of 400 times against the party whip. Would be a tad hypocritical if he denied his side that I reckon.

11-22-15, 11:50 AM	#4801
MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 964 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	Considering what's happened in Libya, my expectations are low. Moving on to the SDSR, it appears that a new MPA is indeed on the cards. My bet is the P-8, with an outside possibility of the Kawasaki P-1. Considering Scotland's continuing political unreliability, I think they'll be based in either England or Wales. Not that there are any suitable base facilities for them in Scotland these days. Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

11-23-15, 12:04 PM	#4802
MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 964 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	Well, I was right about the P-8 being bought for the RAF: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34897803 Main points: Nine P-8's to finally replace the scrapped Nimrod's, will probably be based at RAF Lossiemouth in Scotland (contrary to my pessimistic assessment); Two "Strike Brigades" to be created by 2025; Typhoon service life will be extended by 10 years to 2040, with two extra squadrons being formed; 138 F-35B Lightning II's will be acquired, thus allowing both Queen Elizabeth class carriers to be in service at the same time. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34893614 Not mentioned, but also announced, is that only 8 Type 26 frigates will be procured at this time, however the intention is still to have a class of 13. Unsurprisingly, the SNP are kicking up a fuss about that last point whilst Glasgow's Daily Record (aka the Daily Ranger), despite being a Unionist paper and SLab rag, is also trotting out it's "Heartless English Tories betray Glasgow ship workers" guff..... Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

11-23-15, 02:04 PM	#4803
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,928 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The creation of two rapid deployment strike brigades by 2025 doesn't sound all that rapid to me and this current PM appears to be writing cheques he won't be around to put his signature to. The question now being....who or what (savings wise) will be paying for all this, but I do agree the need for all the above 'capability gap filling). __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

11-25-15, 06:44 AM	#4804
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,928 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Not long now for the Spending Review announcement. I wonder what manner of delights Gideon has in store for us. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

11-25-15, 07:26 AM	#4805
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I hear he is throwing money around like some show off who won the jackpot. On the other side of the coin in the real world oh my the national debt is still going up and don't forget the government wants you to take the debt their debt! Back in dream land La la la la la la la woooooooo la la la woooooooooo everything is going well. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT! Last edited by STEED; 11-25-15 at 01:07 PM. Reason: who not you, get your eyes tested STEED

11-25-15, 12:34 PM	#4806
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	You can't tell there's a Tory leadership contest coming up, can you?

11-25-15, 01:12 PM	#4808
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	NO GIT IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY MY JOB AS TOP PIG SHAGGER You are history fat boy, roll over and make way your job is mind now clear off you pig shagger. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT! Last edited by STEED; 11-25-15 at 02:17 PM.

11-25-15, 03:43 PM	#4809
BossMark Fleet Admiral Join Date: May 2011 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 15,272 Downloads: 278 Uploads: 0	As Osborne talks more and more of 'fiscal rectitude' the more I think he needs rectal fistitude. __________________ Never trust the Tories look what Thatcher and Major did in the 80s and 90s and look what the wicked witch May is doing now doing now

11-26-15, 08:37 AM	#4811
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,928 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Well he certainly pulled a fast one over Labour in dropping the tax credits. They'll soon be replaced by Universal Credit which will have the same or an even more damaging effect on the low paid. Was nice to see the Shadow Chancellor going into comedy mode with the little red book of a well known former ruler who is believed to be responsible for over four million deaths __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

11-26-15, 09:15 AM	#4812
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Osborne isn't daft, now that Labour has gone hard left and the Lib Dems are vaporised, the middle ground is open for the taking.

11-26-15, 09:26 AM	#4813
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,928 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Labour policy in dissaray (not that they have announced one since the leadership contest) no more so than in 'Trident'....Leader and deputy can't agree and the cabinet can't agree with the leadership or the parliamentary members __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

11-26-15, 09:28 AM	#4814
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Yeah, I mean I can respect Corbyn for running a fairly open shop in that you don't have to solidly toe the line and doff your cap to the big boss, that you can have your own opinion...but, it doesn't lead to a very organised party and it's a bit like putting a freshly cut limb into a pool of sharks...

11-26-15, 09:35 AM	#4815
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,928 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'm waiting to see if Corbyn allows his side a free vote, especially when you consider he has voted in excess of 400 times against the party whip. Would be a tad hypocritical if he denied his side that I reckon. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)