Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

Iranian missiles to Russia change Ukraine debate - Lammy

The delivery of Iranian missiles to Russia has changed the debate about Ukraine using Western-provided long-range missiles against targets inside Russia, UK Foreign Secretary David Lammy has told the BBC on a visit to Kyiv.

Lammy travelled to the Ukrainian capital with US Secretary of State Antony Blinken after talks in London.

They met President Volodymr Zelensky, who has repeatedly called for allies to loosen limits on the use of Western-supplied weapons.

The US and UK have not given Ukraine permission to use long-range missiles against targets inside Russia for fear of escalation.

At a news conference in Kyiv on Wednesday, Blinken said US President Joe Biden would likely discuss the use of long-range missiles with UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer at the White House on Friday.

Asked about the risk of escalation, the US secretary of state added: "We've now seen this action of Russia acquiring ballistic missiles from Iran, which will further empower their aggression in Ukraine. So if anyone is taking escalatory action, it would appear to be Mr Putin and Russia."

Lammy would not be drawn into whether the US and UK would be allowing Ukraine to use long-range missiles, but said: "I am not prepared to give Putin the advantage."

Biden has said his administration is considering lifting the restrictions, but no decision has yet been made public.

On Wednesday, Zelensky said Kyiv's victory in the war against Russia "depends mostly on the support of the United States".

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha said steps towards lifting long-range missile restrictions "are important in the context of reports of a possible transfer of ballistic missiles to Russia by Iran".

"We must act boldly," he added.

In an interview with the BBC, Lammy said Iran providing Russia with ballistic missiles "clearly changes the debate" as they would allow Moscow's forces "to have further penetration into Ukraine".

"That is very dangerous," Lammy said, adding: "As we see the Russians working with their partners, we see this transfer of ballistic missiles from Iran to Russia, it is important that we do more to support Ukraine to win in their efforts."

On Wednesday, Lammy said the UK would provide £600m ($780m) in aid to Ukraine to support the country's "humanitarian, energy and stabilisation needs". Blinken announced a further $700m in assistance to Ukraine, including funding for the energy sector and demining.

The new aid came after the US, UK, France and Germany imposed further sanctions on Iran for supplying Russia with ballistic missiles for use in Ukraine. The UK government summoned Iran's top diplomat over the accusations.

Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal thanked Lammy for the UK’s military support for Ukraine throughout the war.

But he added: “We hope that long-range equipment for strikes on the territory of our enemy will be reached and we will have it and we hope for your help and support in this issue.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crrlg2xj5qno

[Skybird]

Zelenskyi has confirmed the beginning of the Russian counteroffensive in Kursk. He said this counteroffensive were "according to Ukrainian plans."






I am eagerly awaiting the Ukrainian reaction that will probably also come "as planned", so I may assume...?!



Ukraine confirmed that ten villages in Kursk have been reconquered by Russia.

[mapuc]

^ Watch Denys latest video-The one above your latest reply posted by Jim

According to him they-the Ukrainians-Expected this and are luring the Russian into a trap.

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Looks like a pre-war between NATO and Russia is in progress


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Markus

[Jimbuna]

Group of Ukrainian pilots undergoes training on F-16 aircraft in Romania, - Umierov

A group of Ukrainian pilots is undergoing training on F16 aircraft in Romania.

This was announced by Defense Minister Rustem Umierov, Censor.NET reports.

"I had a fruitful telephone conversation with Romanian Defense Minister Angel Tilvar. The key topic was strengthening the protection of Ukrainian skies from Russian missiles and drones.

Soon Ukraine will receive a new Patriot air defense system from Romanian partners. There will also be more F-16s in the Ukrainian sky: a group of our pilots is already undergoing training in Romania," the minister said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3509590

[Jimbuna]

Russian Missile Strikes Ukrainian Civilian Ship in Black Sea

President Volodymyr Zelensky announced on Thursday that a civilian ship carrying wheat to Egypt was struck by a Russian missile shortly after leaving Ukrainian waters, informs Digi24.

Fortunately, there were no casualties reported.

Zelensky, in a message on the social media platform X, expressed anticipation for the international community's response to the attack.

He emphasized Ukraine's commitment to protecting its ports, the Black Sea, and its crucial role in global food supply. "Wheat and food security should never be targets for missiles," Zelensky stated.

He also highlighted Ukraine's importance as a major contributor to global food security, stressing that the stability and livelihoods of many countries depend on the uninterrupted flow of Ukrainian grain.
The attack comes after Russia withdrew last year from a UN-Turkey-brokered agreement that had established a safe corridor for Ukrainian grain exports from three Black Sea ports.

Unmet demands

Russia's withdrawal was due to unmet demands regarding the transport of fertilizers and related payments.

In response, Ukraine set up its own safety corridor, which includes routes through Romanian waters, to ensure the continuation of its food exports.

Zelensky's remarks underscore the critical nature of Ukraine's food exports and the need for global support in maintaining secure transport routes amid ongoing conflict.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...c76b3bf9&ei=13

[mapuc]

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Why do I have the feeling Putin doesn't really mean it

Vladimir Putin threatens war against NATO and the West if Ukraine is allowed to use long-range missiles coming from the West.

- If this decision is taken, it will mean nothing less than a direct involvement of NATO countries, the USA and European countries in Ukraine.

- It will be direct participation, and it will - of course - significantly change the nature of this conflict, says the Russian president on Russian state television on Thursday, according to Ritzau.

Russia will have to make 'appropriate decisions' based on the new threats, Putin says.

https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.go..._x_tr_pto=wapp
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[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by mapuc

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Why do I have the feeling Putin doesn't really mean it



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Markus

Holy ****,I grew up thinking NATO was saving me from the Communist, Now in 2024 the NEW WORLD ORDER aka NATO wants to not only to attack Russia but to become what they told me i had to fear.
Oh damn, it is true NATO wants to kill everybody to rule the planet. And in the end, will the survivors be in chains again? Somebody has to move the rocks.

[Reece]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

it is true NATO wants to kill everybody to rule the planet. And in the end, will the survivors be in chains again? Somebody has to move the rocks.

What a load of crap!!

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Reece

What a load of crap!!

How so ? Tell us .And don't take 5 days to do it. Im on here right now. Waiting, I liked how you picked my post, for your reply. I'm in eastern time 5:05 am here. In Florida.And if you don't reply in 30 min, Well just maybe you are just a load of crap. From down under, that could be anywhere.
Well anyway, I was saved from the Communist, And now have embrace science,I threw my Christianity away into the dirt.Money as a Merc.Well everybody finds their way to hell.On way or the other.

[Reece]

You tell us how in the hell NATO is going to rule the planet, Never going to happen, and why would they do it? Now Poo-tin on the other hand!!

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[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Reece

You tell us how in the hell NATO is going to rule the planet, Never going to happen, and why would they do it? Now Poo-tin on the other hand!!

There are many beside him who think NATO is a threat to the world peace.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Moscow disagrees with Turkey's Erdogan that Crimea should return to Kyiv's control, Kremlin says

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia completely disagrees with comments from Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan that Crimea should return to Ukrainian control, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Friday.

Erdogan said this week that Turkish support for Ukraine's territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence was unwavering, and the return of Crimea was a requirement of international law.

Peskov said this was a point of disagreement where "our opinions fully diverge" with Turkey, but Moscow would keep explaining its position to "our Turkish friends".
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...8105a66a&ei=35

[Skybird]

Putin's recent threats that NATO would be at war with Russia if it allowed Ukraine to attack with ATACMS up to their maximum range in Russia shows how decisive this tactical option is and how much Russia fears it. Which raises the question of why this option was not chosen sooner. It is still unclear whether this option will actually be realized. But it is essential. You cannot say you want Ukraine to win the war and then keep its hands bound on its back all the tiem and sdaivngf Russia form the effects of deep strike interdictions and destruction of its logistical basis and network in the Hinterland. BTW, these weapons formt he west turn Ukrainian the moment they are handed over. As much as Russia has the right to try to destroy them from that moment on and the Wets mist not fgeel attacked by that, that much Ukraine has the right to use them in any way it likes. If we do not like what they do with them, we should not give them. But telling them what to do with them and what not - now THIS is an active interference and makes us an acting and deciding participant in this war! Oh the irony, and nobody seems to see it.

Political leftists in Europe and especially in Germany are protesting against the stationing of American cruise missiles in Germany and, like Putin, are calling it an escalation or provocation. The fact that Russia has long since stationed such nuclear weapons in the Kaliningrad enclave is, as usual, of no interest to them. For them, it is perfectly okay that Russia has long since placed its nuclear dagger at the throats of European capitals. But when the same thing is now being considered against Moscow, the leftist soul naturally boils to maximum temperature, of course. Useful idiots.