[REL] Open Horizons II

[mishuleu155]

BDU says that i completed the Baltic Operations but my line is filleed at half and that cross it's not filled. When i reach Kiel and take another mission i have no cross filled.

[mishuleu155]

I've reinstalled OH v2.2 and i have no CTD. The game is playable again. OH v2.3 it's bugged for now. I hope next time you will release the mod when is fully tested and not in this state.

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by mishuleu155

I've reinstalled OH v2.2 and i have no CTD. The game is playable again. OH v2.3 it's bugged for now. I hope next time you will release the mod when is fully tested and not in this state.

That's weird.. why it works for Sober if, in your opinion, it's so bugged?

[mishuleu155]

I respect the work of trevally and his mods are beautiful but you have to understand that i have tried to make this work two days. And maybe sober had installed fewer mods. This is my mod list and i want these mods to work in combination with OH v2.3 mod. OH v 2.2 works perfectly with all these mods that i like. So for me OH V2.3 is bugged.

Accurate German Flags
Naights Submaine Textures v1.2 (PUV)
DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod
DynEnv v2.9 - 4.a Camera Filters - Realistic Colors
DynEnv v2.9 - 5.c Ambient Settings - Darker Nights-No Murky Waters
DynEnv v2.9 - 8.c Wave Mechanics - Hurricane
DynEnv v2.9 - 10.I Seafloor (high resolution)
DynEnv v2.9 - 11.a.I Sea Plants - Atlantic Kelp Forests (high resolution)
DynEnv v2.9 - 11.b.I Sea Plants - Med Posidonia Meadows (high resolution)
DynEnv v2.9 - 11.c.I Sea Plants - Coral Reefs (high resolution)
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
FX_Update_0_0_21_ByTheDarkWraith
New Torpedoes Explosion - FX Update add-on
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt w beards
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 Basemod
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 HOTFIX 3
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 optional -6db damped Sonarguy
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 optional louder engine sounds
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 optional NavMap babelling
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 optional scary creaks
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_New_radio_messages_German
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_No_Snorkel_Exhaust_Smoke
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_jimimadrids_map_tools
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Das_Boot_Crew_Mod_by_Illyustrator
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2
smaller flags for Warships 1_0b
MadMaxs_SH5_Subdiesel (mono) v2
EQuaTool 01.01 by AvM - Large Style
Warfox deck crew always whispering SH5 German Version
Shadow Improvement Mod
TDW Round Fire Button v11 by Torpedo
Old Style Explosions V1.1
Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9
Menu - Das Boot Alarm Theme
Grossdeutscher Rundfunk
NDB,NDH OM#1 - No Dialog Indicator
Gramophone
Radio
sobers hud sounds V1 SH5
AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm
Cerberus62 Corrected Depth Charge Projector 1.0
IRAI_0_0_39_Inertia_Damage
TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbances_v2_0_SH5
Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v3.1
Trevally Tutorial - All v0.2(for OHIIv1.3)
gap - HD 1 deg Scope Bearing v 1.0
Clock skin by Naights
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part1_07.06.2013
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 2_07.06.2013
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 3_24.06.2013
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 4_20.07.2013
Fuel Gauge WoGaDi_SteelViking's Interior
DBSM_Music_1_0_4
Harbour_Mod_by_HanSolo78_reworked_for_OHIIv2.2_by_ Trevally
Nazi Medals
Nauticalwolf's_Damage_and_Torpedo_UI(g)_Mod_v1.1
Sub_Exhaust_1_0_5_byTheDarkWraith
TDC Graphics by Naights v1.0
TDW_Mines_Subnets_Detectable_in_hydro (OH II )
Water reflections intensity varied by available sunlight by TheDarkWraith
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2 - no hyd on surface - NewUIs-IRAI compatible
sobers best ever fog V24 SH5
tdw patch
IO_StrategicMap_7_5_0_for_TDWv750
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Real_Navigation

[THE_MASK]

Originally Posted by volodya61

That's weird.. why it works for Sober if, in your opinion, it's so bugged?

It doesn't work . You need the updated guns and rockets but the download link is broken .

[mishuleu155]

You mean this link?

http://www.mediafire.com/download/sk...%26Rockets.rar

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@ vlad29, Serge65, volodya61 and Trevally

Sorry for the late reply guys.

The information we are looking for is spread over many websites, mainly Russian ones, but not impossible to find. During the past days my progress has been pitifully slow especially due to language barriers, but I was nonetheless able to collect some information. This is what I have got so far:

About the Soviet Naval Aviation of WWII

Ignoring some minor units, The Russian Navy was (and still is) divided into four independent fleets, each with its own air unit: the Northern fleet based at Murmansk, the Baltic Fleet based at Leningrad, the Black Sea Fleet, and the Pacific Ocean Fleet. Compatibly with equipment shortages and lack of trained crews (common during the first years of the war), each fleet had ideally a Mine-Torpedo Air Division (Minno-torpednyy Aviatsionnyy), a division of fighters (Istrebitel'nyy Aviatsionnyy), a division of bomber/dive bombers (Bombardirovchnyy Aviatsionnyy), and one or more reconnaissance regiments, plus some independent air regiments and air flights. At the start of the war a Regiment might range from 40-64 aircraft depending on type in 4 squadrons. By 1942 the established regiment size had been reduced to 21 aircraft in 2 squadrons. By the end of the war regimental size was back to 3 squadrons and 30-40 aircraft.

Source (in English):
http://weaponsandwarfare.com/?p=29379


Short history of the Northern Fleet

An "Arctic Sea Flotilla" (Flotiliya Severnogo Ledovitogo okeana) had been established on June 1916. On March 1920, after the October Revolution, it was replaced by the "White Sea Flotilla" (Belomorskaya flotiliya), based in Arkhangelsk, and finally disbanded on January 1923. In early 1933 a "Northern Flotilla" was re-established in Polyarny, on the outermost western side of the Murmansk Fjord. On September 1935 (September 1936 according to other sources) the Flotilla received its first flight of MBR-2 flying boats (transferred from Leningrad to Murmansk), and it was designated "the Northern Fleet" on May 11, 1937, after receiving new ships, airfields and coastal and air defense artillery.

Source (in English):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Fleet


Northern Fleet Air Force during WWII

On September 16, 1939, the first air unit of the Northern Fleet became operative as the 118th Short-Range Marine Reconnaissance Aviation Regiment (118-y morskoy blizhne razvedyvatel'nyy aviatsionnyy polk VVS SF), just in time for taking part to the Winter War with 18 aircraft. In the meanwhile, the Northern Fleet Air Force was reinforced with new aircraft and units. On the eve of the Great Patriotic War (June 1941) it consisted of two regiments and three independent units operating 116 aircraft in total:

118th Marine Reconnaissance Aviation Regiment (118-y morskoy razvedyvatel'nyy aviatsionnyy polk) - 35 Beriev MBR-2 and 7 GTS (Russian-made PBY Catalinas) flying boats;
72th Mixed Aviation Regiment (72-y smeshannyy aviatsionnyy polk) - 28 Polikarpov I-15bis, 17 I-153 and 4 I-16 fighters, and 11 Tupolev SB bombers;
49th Maritime Reconnaissance Squadron (49-ya otdel'naya morskaya razvedyvatel'naya aviaeskadril'ya) - 10 MBR-2;
24th Liaison Flight (24-ye otdel'noye aviatsionnoye zveno svyazi) - 2 MBR-2
34th Air Rescue Flight (34-ye otdel'noye sanitarnoye aviatsionnoye zveno) - 2 MBR-2

No minelaying and torpedo-bomber nor ground attack aviation regiments were attached to the Northern Fleet yet. The mentioned units operated from one airfield, Vaenga-1, near Murmansk (69° 1'52.91"N, 33°25'16.91"E) and three seaplane bases, Guba Gryaznaya, near Murmansk (69° 3'50.72"N, 33°17'26.79"E), Kholmovskaya, near Arkhangelsk (64°22'52.95"N, 40°43'16.82"E) and Solovki, Bolshoi Solovetsky Island ( 65° 1'46.43"N, 35°43'58.05"E):



This is just what I was able to grab from the many Russian-written sources available on the web. There is much more in them. I wish some Russian buddy could help me abstracting the information they contain, because google translate does a really poor job of them.

Here they are:

The defeat of the summer of 1941 (General essay with lot of useful information):
http://www.nationshistory.ru/nhistorys-122-1.html

Naval Aviation of the USSR during the war:
http://www.airaces.ru/stati/morskaya...nyjj-flot.html

Northern Fleet Air Force during World War II, a brief overview:
http://sk16.ru/vvssf.shtml

Maritime reconnaissance aircraft (Baltic, Black Sea, Northern and Pacific Fleets):
http://www.airaces.ru/stati/vvs-vmf-...-aviaciya.html

118th Reconnaissance Aviation Regiment Northern Fleet Air Force:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/118-%D0...BE%D1%82%D0%B0

49th Maritime Reconnaissance Squadron:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/49-%D1%...BE%D1%82%D0%B0

Soviet fighter units which fought in the Arctic:
http://www.e-reading.co.uk/chapter.p...1941-1944.html

72th Mixed Aviation Regiment Northern Fleet Air Force:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/72-%D0%...BE%D1%82%D0%B0

History of the 255th Fighter Regiment of the Northern Fleet
http://sk16.ru/255iap/index.shtml

"Airacobra" in the 255th IAP Northern Fleet:
http://airaces.narod.ru/all/255_iap.htm

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Originally Posted by mishuleu155

I've reinstalled OH v2.2 and i have no CTD. The game is playable again. OH v2.3 it's bugged for now. I hope next time you will release the mod when is fully tested and not in this state.

Originally Posted by mishuleu155

I respect the work of trevally and his mods are beautiful but you have to understand that i have tried to make this work two days. And maybe sober had installed fewer mods. This is my mod list and i want these mods to work in combination with OH v2.3 mod. OH v 2.2 works perfectly with all these mods that i like. So for me OH V2.3 is bugged.

Mishuleu, I trust you saying that you respect Trevally's work (who don't? ), but unfortunately your last statements don't denote the esteem that Trevally in person deserves.

Saying that OHII 2.3 is bugged is incorrect imho, because for sure it works with stock game and with reduced mod lists, and saying that it wasn't tested before release is obviously false, because the same Trevally tested the mod, as usual. Indeed, a single person can't 'fully test' the whole campaign each time an update is going to be released. Each version would take months (if not years) before release. On the contrary, our Trevally must rely on constructive criticism by common players who, with their helpful reports, give an important contribution to OH's development. I believe that you talked out of frustration, but you recent comments can't be regarded as that.

My two cents

[mishuleu155]

I understand and you're right, it's working with the stock. But for me the game just with this mod it's not enough. So i prefer to go with the older version that is fitted to work properly in combination with my list mods.

[THE_MASK]

For OH2.3 to work with some mods it needs the guns and rockets revision 2 mod by serge65 . The download link is broken . End of story .

[gap]

Originally Posted by vlad29

...to position on them 2 types of fighters (Hurricane, which game-model already exist and some else, but not Jak-1 or Mig-3), and 2 types of bombers (torpedo carriers).

Aircraft in service with Soviet Air Forces, already featured in SH5 + OH 2.3 + OH 2.3 patch 1 beta:

fighters
Yakovlev Yak-1 (Yak-7, Yak-9, Yak-3 as proxy units)
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-3 (MiG-1 as proxy unit)
Lavochkin La-5 (LaGG-3 as proxy units)
Republic P-47 Thunderbolt
Hawker Hurricane
Gloster SS.37 Gladiator

seaplanes
Beriev KOR-1 / Be-2
Beriev MBR 2


Aircraft already in SH format, but not yet imported/used in SH5

fighters
Lavochkin La-7 (LaGG-3 / La-5 variant)
Curtiss P-40 Tomahawk / Warhawk
Supermarine Spitfire

bombers
Ilyushin Il-2 Shturmovik (Il-10 as proxy unit)
Ilyushin DB-3 (Il-4 as proxy unit)
Tupolev Tu-2
North American B-25 Mitchell

seaplanes
Consolidated PBY / GTS


Aircraft whose 3d models are freely available on the web, and which can be made into SH5 air units

fighters
Polikarpov I-15 and I-15bis (I-153 as proxy unit)
Polikarpov I-16
Bell P-39 Airacobra
Bell P-63 Kingcobra

bombers
Tupolev SB
Lisunov Li-2 (USSR-buildt version of the Douglas DC-3)

I have ignored intentionally aircraft which were produced/purchad/captured by the USSR in small numbers, and/or only used for evaluation purposes, far from the front lines.
We have in total 21 main aircraft models and 10 variants. Not bad at all

[gap]

Originally Posted by sober

For OH2.3 to work with some mods it needs the guns and rockets revision 2 mod by serge65 . The download link is broken . End of story .

If you mean this one, I have it on my HD. I can re-up it, if it is okay for Serge. Otherwise, you can use my last rework of Serge's files (based on the version I have linked above): http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=4479

P.S: make sure to remove the air_guns files from OH / OH patch 1 beta's library folder

[THE_MASK]

Originally Posted by gap

If you mean this one, I have it on my HD. I can re-up it, if it is okay for Serge. Otherwise, you can use my last rework of Serge's files (based on the version I have linked above): http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=4479

P.S: make sure to remove the air_guns files from OH / OH patch 1 beta's library folder

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=2953

[THE_MASK]

Originally Posted by gap

If you mean this one, I have it on my HD. I can re-up it, if it is okay for Serge. Otherwise, you can use my last rework of Serge's files (based on the version I have linked above): http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=4479

P.S: make sure to remove the air_guns files from OH / OH patch 1 beta's library folder

I get a ctd as soon as I try to enter Kiel .

[vlad29]

Originally Posted by gap

Aircraft in service with Soviet Air Forces, already featured in SH5 + OH 2.3 + OH 2.3 patch 1 beta:

fighters
Yakovlev Yak-1 (Yak-7, Yak-9, Yak-3 as proxy units)--Jak-1 - since August till November 1942, then from June 1943 after reinforcement (20th fighters rgmt.)
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-3 (MiG-1 as proxy unit)-Mig-3 - since July 1941 and only 10 planes, by the middle 1942 or earlier were out of battles (missed or broken)
Lavochkin La-5 (LaGG-3 as proxy units)-La-5 were not used in the Northern Navy , Lagg-3 - since July 1942 up 1943 (255th rgmt.), then was replaced with "aircobra"
Republic P-47 Thunderbolt-were not used in the NN
Hawker Hurricane - since September 1941 (very popular)
Gloster SS.37 Gladiator - were not used in NN. But there were 10 biplanes U-2 (Po-2), that were used since 13Nov.1941 as "night bombers"

seaplanes
Beriev KOR-1 / Be-2 - no info re. using it in Northern Navy
Beriev MBR 2 - that was the main reconnaissance hydro-plane in NN


Aircraft already in SH format, but not yet imported/used in SH5

fighters
Lavochkin La-7 (LaGG-3 / La-5 variant)- Lagg-3 - see info above, La-5 was not used in NN, La-7 appeared in soviet army at the very end of war and took part in the last battles over Europe
Curtiss P-40 Tomahawk / Warhawk-- Dynamics of P-40 in Murmansk as follows: January 11, 1942 (the convoy PQ-7) - 4 planes, January 20 (PQ-8) - 15; February 10 (PQ-9) - 2, March 12 (PQ-12 ) - 44, and only in 1942 - 272 «Tomahawk» and a «Kittyhawk» a. In 1943 came 108 R-40 (with convoys SW 52,54 and 55). Last «Kittyhawk» and (111 units) were delivered to the port of Murmansk 29.02 on 5.4.44, the convoy SW 56, 57 and 58.First in the North «Tomahawk» and received 147 IAP. As the fighting wore here positional, retraining took place directly in the operational zone. The regiment continued to fight on I-153 in between fights mastering «Tomahawk» IIB and «Hurricane» IIB. First «Tomahawk» and received at the beginning of December 1941 (AK295, 296 and 318), and by the end of January 1942 was completed retraining. Until mid-April the regiment fought on two types of fighters, and, for example, in the II Squadron in I and III were 2 links «Tomahawk» a and 2 «Hurricane».
April 1, 1942 the regiment became the 20th Guards IAP, was transformed to a new state of 015/134, passed May 1 «Hurricane» and, in addition to available «Tomahawk» IIB (AK170, 180, 194, 202, 205, 263, 267, 306, 344, 339, 473, 483) received a P-40E (№ № 583, 586, 600, 664, 787, 789, 796, 810-814, 823, 824, 843, 849, 860, 1101, 1108).
Supermarine Spitfire- no info re. using it in NN

bombers
Ilyushin Il-2 Shturmovik (Il-10 as proxy unit)
Ilyushin DB-3 (Il-4 as proxy unit) - one of the main torpedo-bombers in NN since Sept.1941 (first 3 planes), since June 1942 (40 planes)
Tupolev Tu-2 - Petluakov Pe-2, Pe-3 were mostly used
North American B-25 Mitchell - was not in use in NN. "Boston" (1944) and "Hampden" (since automn 1941 - january 1942 - RAF based on Soviet airfields, since end of Jan 1942 - 20 planes were transmitted to NN).

seaplanes
Consolidated PBY / GTS -


Aircraft whose 3d models are freely available on the web, and which can be made into SH5 air units

fighters
Polikarpov I-15 and I-15bis (I-153 as proxy unit)
Polikarpov I-16
Bell P-39 Airacobra
Bell P-63 Kingcobra - no need at all

bombers
Tupolev SB - was one of the main bombers in NN 1941-1942
Lisunov Li-2 (USSR-buildt version of the Douglas DC-3) - that was a transport plane, not a bomber (don't think it is needed in SH5)

I have ignored intentionally aircraft which were produced/purchad/captured by the USSR in small numbers, and/or only used for evaluation purposes, far from the front lines.
We have in total 21 main aircraft models and 10 variants. Not bad at all

Hi Gap, really good news and good Inet-material I've looked through it also. Now we had to determine which period of time we should take to position the right planes into the right airfields.
Please note the marks in color above