What is a General Topics for? - Page 3

Konovalov · 10-22-06, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate

Looks like you have a rebellion going Gizzmoe. Better run to Neal.

Its of your own making. Your strong arm tactics aren't going to work with free thinking people.

I don't think that was called for with the "better run to Neal" insult.

10-22-06, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov

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Originally Posted by waste gate

Looks like you have a rebellion going Gizzmoe. Better run to Neal.

Its of your own making. Your strong arm tactics aren't going to work with free thinking people.

I don't think that was called for with the "better run to Neal" insult.

Not meant to be an insult. I was suggesting a course of action.

Gizzmoe · 10-22-06, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

and is acting in a way that I can't see to be a moderator's job

But it *is* part of the job.

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What should be clear is that nobody can accuse me of having a bias concerning threads I start myself.

It is, generally speaking, not only about what kind of threads people start, but also in which threads their participate, and in which way. Islam/ME/Anti-Bush discussions sometimes appear in threads that had originally nothing to do with that.

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A mod's personal taste is only acceptable as long as it is covered by at least a general rule.

There is a general rule about that. Besides, you can´t make a rule for everything.

MothBalls · 10-22-06, 03:38 PM

At least we have something to talk about.

Given a choice between heavy-handed moderators, or mood-based-censorship, and Iraq, I would have gone with Iraq. But who am I to say [or not let people say].

I'm with Coda, I think I'll just leave now.

JSLTIGER · 10-22-06, 03:38 PM

Look folks, there's always going to be some limit to the idea of free speech. Even here in the Good Ol' US of A, where the idea has been in use the longest, there are restrictions, such as shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater if there is no such thing. Leave the mods alone. They haven't restricted the speech of anyone posting rational thoughts. The majority of those censored have been censored because they were busy spewing off statements without thinking first and with no basis for their statements.

Free speech?

Attacking the mods for asking people to at least make semi-coherent rational arguments for their stated beliefs?

Takeda Shingen · 10-22-06, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

1 environment, energy (0 if not counting hijack)

Yeah, I had a hand in that. Sorry.

Gizzmoe · 10-22-06, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate

Looks like you have a rebellion going Gizzmoe. Better run to Neal.

I and this forum in general have seen worse.

Takeda Shingen · 10-22-06, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

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Originally Posted by waste gate

Looks like you have a rebellion going Gizzmoe. Better run to Neal.

I and this forum in general have seen worse.

You are a nicer guy, and a better moderator than I, Gizz. I wouldn't have taken that from him.

Skybird · 10-22-06, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

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Originally Posted by Skybird

1 environment, energy (0 if not counting hijack)

Yeah, I had a hand in that. Sorry.

Many had, including me. And we enjoyed it!

10-22-06, 03:49 PM

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Leave the mods alone. They haven't restricted the speech of anyone posting rational thoughts.

Oh yes they have. Just because the mods no longer publish the fact doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It happened to someone very close to me last week when he challenged a moderator limiting the debate.

Konovalov · 10-22-06, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

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Originally Posted by waste gate

Looks like you have a rebellion going Gizzmoe. Better run to Neal.

I and this forum in general have seen worse.

You are a nicer guy, and a better moderator than I, Gizz. I wouldn't have taken that from him.

I share your viewpoint 100%.

Gizzmoe · 10-22-06, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

But the community must be allowed to reflect on the performance qof moderators - and must be allowed to do so in public.

Forgot to comment on that... No, the community isn´t allowed to do that in public, only via PM to the moderator or Neal. They can ask questions in public, but a major discussion about the performance of a moderator is not allowed.

Godalmighty83 · 10-22-06, 04:01 PM

i really have not seen the mods restrict anyones freedom of speech, hell most of the threads on here would have been locked long ago on most other forums.

i really cannot fault gizzmoe neal etc in there behaviour

10-22-06, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

No, the community isn´t allowed to do that in public, only via PM to the moderator or Neal. They can ask questions in public, but a major discussion about the performance of a moderator is not allowed.

So says Gaius Gizzmoe. So let it be written, so let it be done.

ASWnut101 · 10-22-06, 04:05 PM

ok, shakespeare......

:p

10-22-06, 03:38 PM	#35
JSLTIGER The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Parkland, FL, USA Posts: 1,437 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Look folks, there's always going to be some limit to the idea of free speech. Even here in the Good Ol' US of A, where the idea has been in use the longest, there are restrictions, such as shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater if there is no such thing. Leave the mods alone. They haven't restricted the speech of anyone posting rational thoughts. The majority of those censored have been censored because they were busy spewing off statements without thinking first and with no basis for their statements. Free speech? Attacking the mods for asking people to at least make semi-coherent rational arguments for their stated beliefs? __________________ Thor: Intel Core i7 4770K\|ASUS Z87Pro\|32GB DDR3 RAM\|11GB EVGA GeForce RTX 2080Ti Black\|256GB Crucial M4 SSD+2TB WD HDD\|4X LG BD-RE\|32" Acer Predator Z321QU 165Hz G-Sync (2540x1440)\|Logitech Z-323 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Pro Explorer (MSI GL63 8RE-629 Laptop): Intel Core i7 8750H\|16GB DDR4 RAM\|6GB GeForce GTX 1060\|128GB SSD+1TB HDD\|15.6" Widescreen (1920x1080)\|Logitech R-20 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Home

10-22-06, 04:01 PM	#43
Godalmighty83 Sonar Guy Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 398 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	i really have not seen the mods restrict anyones freedom of speech, hell most of the threads on here would have been locked long ago on most other forums. i really cannot fault gizzmoe neal etc in there behaviour __________________ Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

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ASWnut101 Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,021 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	ok, shakespeare...... :p __________________

10-22-06, 03:38 PM	#34
MothBalls Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	At least we have something to talk about. Given a choice between heavy-handed moderators, or mood-based-censorship, and Iraq, I would have gone with Iraq. But who am I to say [or not let people say]. I'm with Coda, I think I'll just leave now.