New method in UK to control prison numbers!

Konovalov · 10-17-06, 07:32 AM

I wasn't sure if this was serious or not.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6057528.stm

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Blunkett 'gave machine-gun order'

David Blunkett told the head of the Prison Service to call in the Army and "machine-gun" rioting inmates to regain control of a jail in 2002, reports say.

Martin Narey, then director general, said the then home secretary told him he did not care about possible deaths during bids to retake Lincoln prison.

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He said that, during a telephone conversation in October 2002, he told Mr Blunkett he would not rush into ordering staff back into jail if it put lives at risk.

He told The Times: "[Mr Blunkett] shrieked at me that he didn't care about lives, told me to call in the Army and 'machine-gun' the prisoners and - still shrieking - again ordered me to take the prison back immediately.

This is just plain funny.

kiwi_2005 · 10-17-06, 08:08 AM

Heavy man.

I think tear gas would of been just fine.

madDdog67 · 10-17-06, 08:35 AM

I've got no problem with the application of deadly force to control prison riots if the lives of the guards or other prison staff are in jeopardy. ******* 'em.

Now, here's a thought...if you're a prisoner, and you don't want to get mowed down by a machine gun....DON'T FRIGGIN' RIOT.

The Avon Lady · 10-17-06, 08:40 AM

Would possibly have saved the British tax payers a lot of money.

Konovalov · 10-17-06, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Would possibly have saved the British tax payers a lot of money.

Well we do have a prison overcrowding problem to which John Reid is looking for alternative solutions.

But I doubt even the hard man of the Labour party will consider this extreme option.

danlisa · 10-17-06, 09:02 AM

What is there to RIOT about? They get caught doing something they shouldn't be, get a roof over their heads, 3 square meals a day & (correct me if I'm wrong) actually get paid (read wage) for any work they do while inside?

There are a lot of law abiding people in the UK who don't even come close to this level of care.

They waved their rights as soon as they commited a crime.

That said, Live ammo might be a bit severe, maybe rubber rounds?

jumpy · 10-17-06, 09:15 AM

Hehe the Labour governement 'comedy of errors'

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shrieked at me that he didn't care about lives

perhaps he (blunkett) couldn't see the wood for the trees ...boom-tish!

Lol, Bremner Bird & Fortune were alwyas taking the piss out of Blunkett by depicting him as some kind of action hardnut type. Most amusing.

Simple fact is imo that the prison guards and administration have failed in their duty of care by allowing the riot to happen in the first place. But then again like most everything in this country, the prison service is underfunded and has a short-fall of experienced staff, so why are people supprised when things like this go belly up?

Maybe Gordon Brown could tax my mothers state pension some more to make up the loss in this and countless other areas

STEED · 10-17-06, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Would possibly have saved the British tax payers a lot of money.

Now that's a vote winner.

bookworm_020 · 10-17-06, 06:17 PM

It a win win situation. Saves money and reduces overcrowding. At least the prisoners wouldn't re-offend!!

It would be an incentive to others there to stay on the straight and narrow and never go to jail. I'm sure you would get the backing of many of the police force, as they wouldn't have to deal with them again.

THEBERBSTER · 04-21-13, 04:45 PM

HI
Put them all on the Isle of Wight and put sharks in the Solent

Sailor Steve · 04-21-13, 04:52 PM

Is there some reason you brought back a thread that died seven years ago, just to make a lame comment?

em2nought · 04-21-13, 05:15 PM

Seems like a timely rebirth to me. Brits should pack all their wrongdoers into Falklands. If Argies want if they have to take the lot.

nikimcbee · 04-21-13, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by em2nought

Seems like a timely rebirth to me. Brits should pack all their wrongdoers into Falklands. If Argies want if they have to take the lot.

I thought they already did that, it's called Australia.

Just keep an eye on Tarjak....He's from the colony.

Oberon · 04-21-13, 06:01 PM

Holy seven year necromancy, Batman!

I must admit I did a double take when I got to The Avon Ladys post.

Then I checked the date.

10-17-06, 08:08 AM	#2
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Heavy man. I think tear gas would of been just fine. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

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The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Would possibly have saved the British tax payers a lot of money. __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

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danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	What is there to RIOT about? They get caught doing something they shouldn't be, get a roof over their heads, 3 square meals a day & (correct me if I'm wrong) actually get paid (read wage) for any work they do while inside? There are a lot of law abiding people in the UK who don't even come close to this level of care. They waved their rights as soon as they commited a crime. That said, Live ammo might be a bit severe, maybe rubber rounds? __________________

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bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	It a win win situation. Saves money and reduces overcrowding. At least the prisoners wouldn't re-offend!! It would be an incentive to others there to stay on the straight and narrow and never go to jail. I'm sure you would get the backing of many of the police force, as they wouldn't have to deal with them again. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

04-21-13, 04:45 PM	#10
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	FANCY A SWIM HI Put them all on the Isle of Wight and put sharks in the Solent

10-17-06, 08:35 AM	#3
madDdog67 Loader Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: VA, USA Posts: 84 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've got no problem with the application of deadly force to control prison riots if the lives of the guards or other prison staff are in jeopardy. ******* 'em. Now, here's a thought...if you're a prisoner, and you don't want to get mowed down by a machine gun....DON'T FRIGGIN' RIOT.

04-21-13, 04:52 PM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Is there some reason you brought back a thread that died seven years ago, just to make a lame comment? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-21-13, 05:15 PM	#12
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Seems like a timely rebirth to me. Brits should pack all their wrongdoers into Falklands. If Argies want if they have to take the lot. __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!

04-21-13, 06:01 PM	#14
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Holy seven year necromancy, Batman! I must admit I did a double take when I got to The Avon Ladys post. Then I checked the date.