Dual core compatibility

Respenus · 09-22-06, 03:07 PM

OK, I'm writing this post from ym fathers Linux comp as I'm waiting for my neighbour to put together my new comp.

It's gonna be the new Intel 2 DUO E6300 1,866 GHz processor (I know that it's not the best one out there, but remember I need a completetly new motherboard), Gigabyte GeForce 7600 GT (passive cooling) and 2 GB DDII 800 MHz RAM.

Now I want to know if Silent Hunter III in any way works better on the new dual-core machines (too bad it's not a 64bit game

). I heard that the new Intel processor works wonders, even with my new "not so best" processor.

I already play the game at full detail, but is there any difference. I'm sure some of you already have dual-core machines and will be able to tell me if there is any difference at all!

fredbass · 09-22-06, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Respenus

OK, I'm writing this post from ym fathers Linux comp as I'm waiting for my neighbour to put together my new comp.

It's gonna be the new Intel 2 DUO E6300 1,866 GHz processor (I know that it's not the best one out there, but remember I need a completetly new motherboard), Gigabyte GeForce 7600 GT (passive cooling) and 2 GB DDII 800 MHz RAM.

Now I want to know if Silent Hunter III in any way works better on the new dual-core machines (too bad it's not a 64bit game

). I heard that the new Intel processor works wonders, even with my new "not so best" processor.

I already play the game at full detail, but is there any difference. I'm sure some of you already have dual-core machines and will be able to tell me if there is any difference at all!

Well I'm not an expert, but the purpose of dual core is that certain programs would run on one core while others run on another at the same time, so the game is run on one while your antivirus is running on another. At least I think that's what is supposed to happen. So to me, if it does what's intended then the answer to your question should be yes, generally speaking. So as I see it, with one core, I am forced to close all other programs while I play to avoid conflicting issues, but by having a second core, you could in theory keep a program open like your AV.

SteamWake · 09-22-06, 03:44 PM

I have no problems with one.

Respenus · 09-22-06, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

I have no problems with one.

But does the game work any differently. I know that in others high-res games the new cores help, but I'm not sure what will the difference be in SH3.

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Well I'm not an expert, but the purpose of dual core is that certain programs would run on one core while others run on another at the same time, so the game is run on one while your antivirus is running on another. At least I think that's what is supposed to happen. So to me, if it does what's intended then the answer to your question should be yes, generally speaking. So as I see it, with one core, I am forced to close all other programs while I play to avoid conflicting issues, but by having a second core, you could in theory keep a program open like your AV.

I'm no expert either, but I belive that dual-core processors don't work that way!

fredbass · 09-22-06, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Respenus

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Well I'm not an expert, but the purpose of dual core is that certain programs would run on one core while others run on another at the same time, so the game is run on one while your antivirus is running on another. At least I think that's what is supposed to happen. So to me, if it does what's intended then the answer to your question should be yes, generally speaking. So as I see it, with one core, I am forced to close all other programs while I play to avoid conflicting issues, but by having a second core, you could in theory keep a program open like your AV.

I'm no expert either, but I belive that dual-core processors don't work that way!

Well maybe we can get an expert to help us out a bit.

spork542 · 09-22-06, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fredbass

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Originally Posted by Respenus

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Well I'm not an expert, but the purpose of dual core is that certain programs would run on one core while others run on another at the same time, so the game is run on one while your antivirus is running on another. At least I think that's what is supposed to happen. So to me, if it does what's intended then the answer to your question should be yes, generally speaking. So as I see it, with one core, I am forced to close all other programs while I play to avoid conflicting issues, but by having a second core, you could in theory keep a program open like your AV.

I'm no expert either, but I belive that dual-core processors don't work that way!

Well maybe we can get an expert to help us out a bit.

It does work like that.

Henry_pl · 09-22-06, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Respenus

I already play the game at full detail, but is there any difference. I'm sure some of you already have dual-core machines and will be able to tell me if there is any difference at all!

What kind of difference were you expecting ?
FPS is all that can change when you get a new cpu.

If you already play at 100% details.

Respenus · 09-23-06, 03:17 AM

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What kind of difference were you expecting ?
FPS is all that can change when you get a new cpu.

If you already play at 100% details.

In fact don't really know. That's why I asked. You never know.

Well I get the machine today and then I'll be able to tell you guys if there was any difference at all!

ecm747x · 09-23-06, 03:42 AM

Will the dual core help? yes it will. How it will help is split what programs are running on what cpu letting your game have more cpu resorces to work from. Dual core systems are more geared for multi tasking. Having several programs running at once. There is not a lot of software out right now that utilizes the benefits of dual cores but it is comming.
I have an AMD 4800+x2 processor. I play BF2 a lot as well. It helped this game due to taking other programs and running them on the other cpu. That is where your better game play will come in. WIll you get a rise in FPS. Maybe a few but not a whole lot. That comes from the actual speed of the cpu, graphics and bus.

HanSolo78 · 09-23-06, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Respenus

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What kind of difference were you expecting ?
FPS is all that can change when you get a new cpu.

If you already play at 100% details.

In fact don't really know. That's why I asked. You never know.

Well I get the machine today and then I'll be able to tell you guys if there was any difference at all!

The core 2 duos have a stronger MHz power perciycle than P4 or Athlon64.
I just bought a dualcore a few weeks ago and I realized that some situation got more FPS! For example the landing at D-day got about 7 to 10 FPS more.
All in all you shouldn´t notice much different but if you try to overclock that cpu you´ll
should see more differents @ 3GHz Core2Duo.

regards
Han

Respenus · 09-23-06, 08:16 AM

Well I'm writing this from my new machine (haven't installed SH3 yet).

But I got the picture! I was running the anti-virus programme and played a game at the same time. My old computer would go balistic if I tried to do that. I does help a lot.

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I have an AMD 4800+x2 processor.

I was going for the 4200+ X2, but they ran fresh out!

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All in all you shouldn´t notice much different but if you try to overclock that cpu you´ll
should see more differents @ 3GHz Core2Duo.

Then I'd need liquid nitrogen cooling for that. Going from 1,866 to 3 GHz is an almost 100% overclock. I really doubt anything would take it. It would probably fall aprt. Plus with this new Core 2 DUO proccesors. you really can't look at it's speed. It outranks Athlon, if you compare processors with similar speeds.

Henry_pl · 09-23-06, 09:37 AM

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Then I'd need liquid nitrogen cooling for that. Going from 1,866 to 3 GHz is an almost 100% overclock. I really doubt anything would take it. It would probably fall aprt. Plus with this new Core 2 DUO proccesors. you really can't look at it's speed. It outranks Athlon, if you compare processors with similar speeds.

Then you'll be suprised by core 2 processors

e6300 (1,86 ghz) overclocks without any problems even to 2,8ghz on STOCK cooling (yeah on that pathetic cooler incuded in the BOX version)- when a mobo is not in a case- just on a table with appropriate air flow.
If you can provide good ventilation you may reach similar results in a comp case.

If using better heat sink (ex. scythe ninja) you can reach 3ghz easily.

Read xtremesystems, especially this thread :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=106321

And remember that if they write there "prime stable" that means that their system works good with prime95 programme (google it to find out what it is)- other applications, even games, hardly ever use as much CPU resources as p95 does.

tycho102 · 09-23-06, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Respenus

It's gonna be the new Intel 2 DUO E6300 1,866 GHz processor (I know that it's not the best one out there, but remember I need a completetly new motherboard),

The game will only use one core of your processor, so you are going to want the absolute fastest core you can afford.

Many, many, many other games will only use one core. You need to prioritize your compents while keeping this in mind. First-Person-Shooters have extremely complex AI and physics engines (the Havoc engine, in particular), and will choke on a slow core.

It's the "drawback" of going dual core. You've got to plan for games that can only use one of them.

stabiz · 09-23-06, 07:41 PM

This is correct, and that is why I just bought an AMD Athon 3800+ ... for now.

Rcsubs · 09-25-06, 09:43 PM

Hello Group,

I was at wal-mart shopping and picked up the game Silent Hunter III and I was going to buy the game but decided not to buy the game, why I am not sure however to day I visited UBI website and read the info for their download of the game and after reading about the game I am glad that I did not buy the game because of a software protection warning they posted.

I will never buy any software with protection software that causes problems with my computer. And if their download contains StarForce I do not want anything to do with it, from what I have read about software like Starforce, their software protection software insured one thing, a loss in sales................................

Darrell
http://www.againsttcpa.com

09-22-06, 03:07 PM	#1
Respenus Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Dual core compatibility OK, I'm writing this post from ym fathers Linux comp as I'm waiting for my neighbour to put together my new comp. It's gonna be the new Intel 2 DUO E6300 1,866 GHz processor (I know that it's not the best one out there, but remember I need a completetly new motherboard), Gigabyte GeForce 7600 GT (passive cooling) and 2 GB DDII 800 MHz RAM. Now I want to know if Silent Hunter III in any way works better on the new dual-core machines (too bad it's not a 64bit game ). I heard that the new Intel processor works wonders, even with my new "not so best" processor. I already play the game at full detail, but is there any difference. I'm sure some of you already have dual-core machines and will be able to tell me if there is any difference at all!

09-23-06, 07:41 PM	#14
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	This is correct, and that is why I just bought an AMD Athon 3800+ ... for now. __________________

09-25-06, 09:43 PM	#15
Rcsubs Seaman Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 34 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Silent Hunter III Hello Group, I was at wal-mart shopping and picked up the game Silent Hunter III and I was going to buy the game but decided not to buy the game, why I am not sure however to day I visited UBI website and read the info for their download of the game and after reading about the game I am glad that I did not buy the game because of a software protection warning they posted. I will never buy any software with protection software that causes problems with my computer. And if their download contains StarForce I do not want anything to do with it, from what I have read about software like Starforce, their software protection software insured one thing, a loss in sales................................ Darrell http://www.againsttcpa.com

09-22-06, 03:44 PM	#3
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I have no problems with one.

09-23-06, 03:42 AM	#9
ecm747x Gunner Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA, Indiana Posts: 94 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Will the dual core help? yes it will. How it will help is split what programs are running on what cpu letting your game have more cpu resorces to work from. Dual core systems are more geared for multi tasking. Having several programs running at once. There is not a lot of software out right now that utilizes the benefits of dual cores but it is comming. I have an AMD 4800+x2 processor. I play BF2 a lot as well. It helped this game due to taking other programs and running them on the other cpu. That is where your better game play will come in. WIll you get a rise in FPS. Maybe a few but not a whole lot. That comes from the actual speed of the cpu, graphics and bus.