Proof Bush Stole the Election

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Uh. You got this wrong. When comparing the economic principles of the two party's, Democrats are actually aligned closer to Communist principles. Communism is the collective ownership of property and organization of labor for common advantages. Sound familiar? Nikimcbee got it right.

This has changed the opposite way since the cold war. Republicans are the ones squeezing every ounce out of the American worker for low wages and bent on world control. I'd say I'm right about this! Communism is about government controlling people. Look at the Bush approved wire taps, email taps, forum taps, etc. Look at the fact that min wage hasn't been raised in over a decade. It was the Clinton Administration that raised it the last time. Yet the republican congress has no problem giving themselves a nice fat raise every year as well as the military but not the common civilian worker. This is martial law and that is closer to communism - just like China. Wonder when Bush is gonna make us all go man the rice patties while his troops watch over our work with loaded rifles. "Anyone-stop-working-you-DIE!" - Vietnam, Cambodia, etc. All communistic.

Also, why would Kennedy (a democrat) want to go to war against Vietnam (a communist country) if their "principles" were the same?

[Sea Demon]

I'd say no. What you say doesn't define what a Communist is. It's nothing but frothing at the mouth rhetoric. Republicans have continually relieved pressure on the tax base and have stood up for private property rights, although not as much as they should. But Democrats are reknowned for increasing the burden on tax-payers, and are utterly silent in the area of private property rights. Nope, nikimcbee's right on target.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

Yet the republican congress has no problem giving themselves a nice fat raise every year as well as the military but not the common civilian worker.

Thank you for proving my point for me. You think it's up to the government to set wages for people who work in the private sector. That, sir is as close to communism as they come.

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Thank you for proving my point for me. You think it's up to the government to set wages for people who work in the private sector. That, sir is as close to communism as they come.

Yeah! Me and all my Democratic friends are really communist. We want people to share their wealth to help feed the sick and elderly. We don't want people to hog money that they truely don't deserve so they can go out and buy another brand new $50,000 sports car that they don't need. Yeah, really big communist here pal! Meanwhile you and your side want to "control" the poorer population and kick them while they're down as you count your millions. It's those poor people that work their butts off for your companies so that people like you can live in a big fancy house, drive fancy cars, and not have to worry about retirement. The poor people are left with no choice but to join your military to fight your wars that you and your sides leader decides to start just so they can earn a desent paycheck and have desent medical care for themselves and their families.

It's the control that the republicans force upon the poor man that people like you love because you don't have to worry about spending that extra few cents a month off your paycheck to help the less fortunate out. You are a sick man Sea Demon and you and your party need to be a little less selfish and a lot more selfless. Maybe if that happened and the greed of most republicans came to an end this world we live in would be a better place.

[Ishmael]

With all of this administration's talk of Islamo-Fascism, here's a link to an article by Umberto Eco describing the 14 main characteristics of Fascism. Compare & contrast.

http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html

[scandium]

Interesting to see how many champions of "democracy" from the US are here conceeding that at least one election was stolen, and thereby extension your El Presidente about as legitimate as Fidel Castro (only ole Fidel has far less blood on his hands... and the current US "President" has only been in power less than 6 years).... but "we won, you lost" and that's all that matters eh.

Seems the only thing y'all lost, some more willingly than others, are the supposed sacred constitutional rights your country was founded on. Amazing how many "patriots" are so quick to sell off that piece of paper and their civil liberties 'cuz their side "won"... won what? How are you better off now than you were 6 years ago?

[Sea Demon]

Well at least you have proven the point that you believe government should be in control to take from those who have, and redistribute to those who don't have. And that is communism. But you see SubSerpent, we live in a free society. And in a society such as that, there are choices one makesin order to determine their quality of life. Sometimes it doesn't always work out, but you do have the choice and freedom to make your life better. You also have the choice and freedom to help those around you in need. Me and my family donate to several causes each year. Including the Special Olympics, US Mission, Catholic Charities, and the Food Bank. Do you do the same? Or do you just whine about how your party is not in power to confiscate people's private property to redstribute as they see fit.

Your worldview is dangerous. Not because of your intentions. But because your worldview has been tried before, and it has always resulted in political persecution and lower standards of living. Despite your good intentions, your destruction of private property rights, which is the foundation of freedom, eventually kills off motivation and chokes innovation. You prefer everyone live in misery equally. My side says give people the freedom to use their God given talents to strive for a better life. And promote generosity as my family does annually. Not trying to toot my own horn, but it's true. But when you start talking of confiscating people's private property, you have proven my points more than I could hope for. Yes, the essence of that is communism.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by scandium

Interesting to see how many champions of "democracy" from the US are here conceeding that at least one election was stolen

Nobody here conceded that other than the hardcore lefties that'll believe anything in a Michael Moore flick or a leftist blog sponsored by International ANSWER.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Yahoshua

Pearl harbor happened under a Republicans' watch?

Run outta popcorn?

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Well at least you have proven the point that you believe government should be in control to take from those who have, and redistribute to those who don't. And that is communism. But you see SubSerpent. We live in a free society. And in a society such as that, there are choices one makes in order to determine their quality of life. Sometimes it doesn't always work out, but you do have the choice and freedom to make your own life better. You also have the choice and freedom to help those in need around you. And me and my family donate to various causes each year. Including the Special Olympics, the US Mission, Catholic Charities, and the Food Bank. Do you do the same? Or do you just whine that your party is not in power to confiscate people's private property to redistribute around as they see fit.

Your world view is dangerous. Not because of your intentions. But because your world view has been tried before, and it always has resulted in political persecution and low standards of living. Despite your good intentions, your destruction of private property, which is the foundations of freedom, eventually kills off motivation and chokes innovation. You prefer everybody live in misery equally. My side says give people the freedom to use their talents to strive for a better life. And promote generosity as my family demonstrates annually. Not trying to toot my own horn but it's true. But when you start talking about confiscation of private property, you have proven my points more than I hoped to. Yes, the essence of that is communism.

I never said anything about taking away any property. I do agree that we should be paying more out of our paychecks though to give people low cost healthcare, better choices of schools and education, and a paycheck that is worth earning. Your party recklessly spends its money on crap! Why do we need anymore ships or submarines? We have hundreds of them that will never see combat, or the combat that your party wants them to see. The Marine Corps is pointless now! Why not get rid of that branch altogether. We already have an Army. The Navy and the Air Force have been the ones doing the "First in the fight" stuff that the Marine Corps used to brag about. Marines were used for beach landings. To attempt a beach landing today is nothing more than pure suicide and pointless when one missle could clear a beach and then some for the Army to come onto.

Your government is spending money faster than Micheal Jackson at a childerns lap dance contest, and this is money that could be going to much better and more noble causes. But No! Your party's greed doesn't care and you just admitted that in your post by saying that your party doesn't feel the need to give hand outs to people. It's your party that causes the poor and lower middle class to stop spending at your inflated prices - which leads to stock market crashes and depressions because the poor are finally going to say they aren't going to work for you and your company anymore. Once that happens you make no money, the rich make no money, the middle class make no money, and neither do the poor. Prices will then have to drop dramatically because the rich certainly aren't going to spend a lot of money on anything if they aren't making money off the poor people anymore.

You make your party sound more like a club of pompas arrogant jerks by saying you can't be a member unless you make it rich and wealthy somehow!

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

Maybe if that happened and the greed of most republicans came to an end this world we live in would be a better place.

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Do you do the same? Or do you just whine that your party is not in power to confiscate people's private property to redistribute around as they see fit.

Looks like this link answers some of this greed stuff.

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b...sity_inde.html

Just in case you're lazy, this is a sourced generosity index. It's a study done of who gives to charities. 27 out of 30 of the most generous are Republican states. 17 out of 20 of the least generous states are Democrat Blue states.

[August]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

They tend to be made up of drunken red necks, the KKK, wife beaters, and major control freaks.

Is this your scientific assessment professor?

Originally Posted by August

Is this your scientific assessment professor?

Well I think it's pretty accurate! So do most people opposed to those types of people! Blacks, women, etc. And the last time I looked, women outnumbered us men by nearly 7 to 1, so they must be right!

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

That's just retarded that you would think that a Democrat would be closer to communism than a republican. Last time I checked, republicans were closer extremist to communism than Democrats by far. republicans want to control EVERYTHING! They tend to be made up of drunken red necks, the KKK, wife beaters, and major control freaks.

Way on the left side you have a Dictatorship. Way on the right you have communism. Neither one are good so that's why people tend to stick closer to the middle.

Remember, Democrat is left sided and republican is right sided which is closer to communism. Check your history and facts over!

Two MAJOR republicans...

Rush Limbaugh = Communist
Nute Gingrich = Communist

:rotfl: :rotfl: You must drink A LOT of RED kool-aid

You must have picked the 1944 version of the Hymn, Comrade Stalin would be proud of you. http://davno.ru/img/posters/collecti.../poster-12.jpg

BTW WALMART WILL CRUSH YOU

:rotfl: :rotfl: You must drink A LOT of RED kool-aid

You must have picked the 1944 version of the Hymn, Comrade Stalin would be proud of you. http://davno.ru/img/posters/collecti.../poster-12.jpg

BTW WALMART WILL CRUSH YOU

I DO! I love Kool-Aid! I drink it out of my "BILL CLINTON RULEZ" mug too...that I bought at Wal-Mart BTW!