China tells U.S. to shut up....

[Yahoshua]

"Don't like the Judicial Nominees and don't have a majority in Congress? SO Who're you gonna call? FILIBUSTERS!!"

-Paid for by the Democratic Advertising Campain.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Yahoshua

"Don't like the Judicial Nominees and don't have a majority in Congress? SO Who're you gonna call? FILIBUSTERS!!"

-Paid for by the Democratic Advertising Campain.

No, it didn't happen.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I don't know what Bush's politics are, but they are in no way conservative.

Ah, good to see I am not alone in that perception!

[bradclark1]

What was that party that tried to impeach a president because he got a blowjob and didn't own up to it?

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

What was that party that tried to impeach a president because he got a blowjob and didn't own up to it?

That's not why he was impeached. It's called obstruction of justice and perjury to a grand jury.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Ah, good to see I am not alone in that perception!

Bush is conservative in some ways, liberal in others. It ain't that simple. I just wish that he would tune out liberal/socialist thinkers and get the work done that the people elected him to do. He's always gone wrong when listening to the left. Or acting like the left in terms of border security and spending.

Getting back to the topic, I sure hope the U.S. government keeps up the pressure on China.

[scandium]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

And frankly, before we all run to the banner of the Right, I don't know what Bush's politics are, but they are in no way conservative.

He's a neo-conservative, as was his running mate and as are many of the big guns (in their convinction, ideology, and influence) that he appointed to his cabinet. The real conservatives, that is the traditional conservatives one associates with the word "conservative", left during or following his first term (think Colin Powell, for example).

This is perhaps the first neo-conservative American government and the republicans in congress or the senate, whatever their stripe, have largely (with some muted bickering/dissent here and there along the way) followed the lead of the (unitary) executive branch, resulting in neo-conservative policies.

There is nothing "liberal" about Bush. While "big government" is associated with liberals, and Bush's is perhaps the biggest federal government and biggest spending federal government in American history, the money has not been spent on anything remotely "liberal" policy wise; instead it is being spent on things like the disfunctional homeland security department, subsidies to gas and oil companies and other forms of corporate welfare, and the imperial adventure in Iraq.

And before anyone points out the obvious, no, I really don't like Bush. Many of his disasterous policies have had far and long reaching effects that go far beyond Americas borders. I might disagree with a true conservative on many things, but I can understand and respect them; for neo-cons like Bush and his cabal I have nothing but contempt. And before anyone calls me "anti-American", I will point out that in his speeches and in his policies he has shown nothing but contempt for the rest of the world, so why I would I feel anything other than the same for him and his cabinet?

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

That's not why he was impeached. It's called obstruction of justice and perjury to a grand jury.

And what area of national security did the president put in danger by lying about a blowjob? Oh I get it! A politician can lie every day unless he's in front of a grand jury on matters that would only piss off his spouse.
You need to put it in perspective.
Lie about a blowjob and you face impeachment.
Invade a country on lies and made up intelligence, manipulates the law as he see's fit, drop us in a bucket of $#!t and get a few thousand troops killed and he's a hero.:hmm:

Go figure

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

And what area of national security did the president put in danger by lying about a blowjob? Oh I get it! A politician can lie every day unless he's in front of a grand jury on matters that would only piss off his spouse.
You need to put it in perspective.
Lie about a blowjob and you face impeachment.
Invade a country on lies and made up intelligence, manipulates the law as he see's fit, drop us in a bucket of $#!t and get a few thousand troops killed and he's a hero.:hmm:

Go figure

Clinton committed a crime. Obstruction of justice and lying to a grand jury. That's an impeachable offense. It doesn't matter if he lied to a grand jury about whether he prefers Coke or Pepsi. You can't lie to grand juries. Bush has not done this. In addition, I don't want such a person in control of U.S. nuclear weapons and other matters of national security. If you want my opinion, Mr. Clinton should be in a jail cell right now for his willingness to manipulate Commerce Department rules, putting dual use space technology right in the hands of China. All for political donations. Disgusting. How you people support this skunk is beyond me.

And other than Michael Moore fantasies, we have yet to be shown how Bush lied us into war for personal gain. None of you have proven these assertions. I'm talking undeniable proof here. Don't tell me to go rent Farenheit 9-11. Just because the New Yorker magazine, the New York Times, and the rats at A.N.S.W.E.R say it's so, doesn't make it so.

Bush is no great hero, but he's a Godsend compared to Clinton.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Sea Deman

we have yet to be shown how Bush lied us into war for personal gain. None of you have proven these assertions.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink,
send a boy to college, but you just can't make him think."
(S. Austin)

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Skybird

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink,
send a boy to college, but you just can't make him think."
(S. Austin)

OK. So then prove it. Prove that Bush lied to get us into a war for his own personal gain. Let's see what ya' got.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Originally Posted by Kapitan

I have already done this meaningless task this morning (not directly), i was doing my route on the dustcarts (trash lorrys) when we tried to get round a tight corner, some woman had parked a 4x4 in the acctual drive way, we tried knocking her up by honking the horn several dozen times and even knocking on her door.

The viachle had no tax on it which means we can hit it and get away with it, so what do we do reverse the hopper into the rear and push it down the road a tad.

I dont think the woman in question will be very happy when she acctualy sees the back door and bumper, but it cant come back on us she had no tax therefore not insured and was on the road so not our fault.

I take it you don't believe in karma.

PD

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

OK. So then prove it. Prove that Bush lied to get us into a war for his own personal gain. Let's see what ya' got.

I'm waiting Skybird. *tick tock, tick tock*

You're being called out.

[Skybird]

You already have given it a dozen or hundred of times, even by people more competent than I am - all that while you were sleeping, and still do. I am not repeating myself for the 1001st time again.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Skybird

You already have given it a dozen or hundred of times, even by people more competent than I am - all that while you were sleeping, and still do. I am not repeating myself for the 1001st time again.

Of course not. Because you have no reply. You're being challenged, and you can't respond. Fact is, you can't prove that Bush lied about Saddam, and you look foolish right now.