Enemy Task Force

[Mooncatt]

Originally Posted by SkvyWvr

Yep. 24 years in the US Navy. Retired in 1996.

My sig shows my rank/rate and my awards. (the awards mean I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, often)

not a navy man myself however my dad was in the royal navy served on the HMS fearless, decoy and juno fought in the cod war with iceland and some other minor wars too, has he got a few tales to tell AND he has loool especially when we both been to the pub he tells really good at telling them too i love it

[robj250]

WOW!!! I've hit the jackpot and me with only 7 bow torpedoes left after my encounter with the last task force. I am in BE33, I have two convoys coming my way from AM73, a small one and a large one. The small one is doing 14 kts on a course of SSE, the large one doing 5 kts on a course of S and an enemy task force in BE32 doing 25 kts on a course of NNE. I'm smack in the middle of this, send more U-Boats (like send a wolf pack) I need the help. :rotfl:

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4...ly621492pj.jpg

Take a look at the image. What's the best advice? :hmm:

[HunterICX]

Wow Robj, you lucky Bastard!
Well....the Large convoy would be good for Tonnage, the Taskforce..considering the speed you will meet some Battleships.

So its actually up to you....I think The taskforce is nice for some good fireworks...but the Tonnage would be in that Large convoy...and also...the Taskforce is moving fast...so you have actually 1 shot to sink a couple after that they are gone. you can take it a lot easier with the Convoy...so I say

GO FOR THAT LARGE CONVOY MATEY! Harrrr...and give them my regards when you sink a couple

[robj250]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Wow Robj, you lucky Bastard!
Well....the Large convoy would be good for Tonnage, the Taskforce..considering the speed you will meet some Battleships.

So its actually up to you....I think The taskforce is nice for some good fireworks...but the Tonnage would be in that Large convoy...and also...the Taskforce is moving fast...so you have actually 1 shot to sink a couple after that they are gone. you can take it a lot easier with the Convoy...so I say

GO FOR THAT LARGE CONVOY MATEY! Harrrr...and give them my regards when you sink a couple

Thanks. I was actually thinking about going after the large convoy on a bearing of 320° for 70.4 km and I should meet them about 0303 in the morning, but I have darn rough water so it isn't going to be easy. I'm not wasting any torpedoes on DD or DE. I'm getting pretty good at avoiding them unless I want to sink one. I want the convoy tonnage with the remaining 7 torpedoes then I have to get the heck outta there safely.

[Keelbuster]

Rob,

you can't make that TF. This is where the estimate plotting comes in - his vector is longer than yours, and you're farther (i think) than he is from your 90 degree intercept. So it's impossible. You will have to let him go. Then pick a convoy. Also, I seriously recommend losing the exact course info - it's cheesy. No Map Contacts. Go for the faster convoys than the slower convoys. What merchant does 14kts? T3, passenger liner? It's worth checking out! Anything that does 5kts is probably a low tonnage (though I once saw Revenge in the middle of a 5kt convoy).

Kb

[robj250]

Originally Posted by Keelbuster

Rob,

Also, I seriously recommend losing the exact course info - it's cheesy. No Map Contacts. Go for the faster convoys than the slower convoys. What merchant does 14kts? T3, passenger liner? It's worth checking out! Anything that does 5kts is probably a low tonnage (though I once saw Revenge in the middle of a 5kt convoy).

Kb

What do you mean the exact course is cheesy. That's the information that I was given by radio.

[Keelbuster]

Your map contacts have tails. That is exact course information. Radio reports only give you 360/16 possible directions (i.e. NNW, NW, etc). With the stock game map contacts they give you the tail - which is Truth course info.

Kb

[JSalinger]

Well mate, by looking at your plot, I'd ignore the task force and the large convoy that is going away from you at 8 kts and intercept either the small convoy doing 14 kts or the large convoy doing 5 kts, personally.

As someone else said, T3 tankers and maybe a passenger liner are probably going to be in the 14 kt convoy, while my guess is that the 5 kt convoy is probably small merchants, small tankers, and coastal merchants, although like someone else said, possible big warship in there.

Go for what you think is best and whichever one you think you can take the biggest bite out of with your remaining seven torpedoes. Whichever one you take, report back soon with some screenies, hopefully! LOL

Heil Ubootwaffe!

[Redwine]

Normally i avoid contact with task forces, but some times, when i am in good attack position, i take a look about what i have to hunt, some time, i found a juicy task force, a real battle group, 3 BBs, Nelson, Revenge and King George class, one escort carrier and many minor ships may one of them a light cruiser.

DDs was near to kill me... too risky , but fruitful attack.

I was able to take hands and sink the Nelson and the Revenge, i cant hit the carrier, and the King George scape with two torps inside... it survive, because i never receive the credit for it.

Very juicy task force...!

[robj250]

Originally Posted by Keelbuster

Your map contacts have tails. That is exact course information. Radio reports only give you 360/16 possible directions (i.e. NNW, NW, etc). With the stock game map contacts they give you the tail - which is Truth course info.

Kb

The lines I drew on the map were done with Adobe Photoshop. Of course those lines are not exact. I know the tails give the true course and I will of course make use of that on the nav map when I plan my intercept of the Large Convoy. Oh, my Radio messages gives me the True course to the best of it's ability

[Keelbuster]

I wasn't talking about your lines; they were crude. But the tails, attached to each of the map contacts, are perfectly accurate. From a single contact report, you can extract course information that should not be available. Rob, as much as I understand the joy in it, from all your posts about course plotting for intercept, you have resisted your intuition. Turn off map contact updates. Whenever you get a radio report, plot an estimated course - then search the area. Do a basic speed/course assessment (3.15 minute rule) and attack. The works poorly for TFs, but they are so rare that you just make a guess. I suppose I'm criticizing your way of attack, but in my mind, with perfect course information, how can you miss?

Kb

[robj250]

Originally Posted by Keelbuster

I suppose I'm criticizing your way of attack, but in my mind, with perfect course information, how can you miss?
Kb

Thanks for your input, and, yes, I'll continue to do my plotting my way, thanks. I just put in the link to the image so the guys I was talking to could see what I just ran into! That's all. Yes, I did ask for their thoughts on which I should attack, and I had chosen to attack the large convoy. So please don't criticize the way I plan my Intercepts.

The only reason I'm up this late is that my M.S. is really bothering me.

[HunterICX]

Remember guys, it is and stays an game.
Its about Hunt or be Hunted.

How you do it? You Choice. as long as you sink enough

Good Luck Rob, and post some screenshots, I,m interested what an Large Taskforce in Career would look like

[robj250]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Good Luck Rob, and post some screenshots, I,m interested what an Large Taskforce in Career would look like

I just checked the screen shots I took during the attack on the task force and all I have is my planned intercept, and periscope views of my sinking the ships. I will post them in Image Shack and put up links to them.

First picture is the planned intercept.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/2...ly522506xm.jpg

I never really got inside the TF, as DD and DE came out after me. Once I was through there were only 2 ships left in the force and they were steaming away from me so fast I could not keep up, but here are the shots of the ones I took out.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6...ly600333sm.jpg

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/317...ly600384yw.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/519...ly600518ts.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9...ly600541bm.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4...ly600550fi.jpg

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/844...ly601269sb.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9...ly601264ki.jpg

Then I gracefully sailed away to find a lone merchant which I sunk and as you know, I run smack into a jackpot, which I posted earlier.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1...ly604191pe.jpg

The waters were really rough, so I had to take quick shots at the DD and DE that came after me. I received some damage through the ordeal. I would love to be able to take on another task force when I have a complete load of torpedoes, not just 7.

I just love attacking at night

[HunterICX]

Nice, could see a couple (@work 56k and an crappy Monitor so some are too dark for me to see) I will look at the rest I get home (My beloved 19''Inch LG TFT Flatron monitor)

also I,m making an Challenge with myself during my stupidity in Career mode (I died to much and by an mistake)
I start in 1939 in an IIA and I want to end it to 1945 with an Type XXI

And I,m currently making an Flash Slide Show of my First patrol and post it soon so when I,m back at home I finish it and post it online